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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 1:21 PM ET
Yes and crab fries
- JoeRussomanno


was at wells fargo the other day for the first time in a while. i realize they mark up concessions and whatnot but i could not believe they were hawking them for 10.50 a pop.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
That's 6, not 3.

The point is, just because these guys have a strong preseason or are having nice junior/AHL seasons does not mean they're ready to be thrown into the NHL.

Like someone said, if this season is toast anyway (unless you think Ghost and Laughton make them a contender), what's the harm in them playing top minutes and seeing all different man-power situations in the AHL? How does it hurt their growth?

- jmatchett383

Because as somebody else said its not really gonna hurt them all that bad to be promoted either.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
Bring up alt, lauridsen, and manning first...
- moylander



Aye... sink or swim time for the latter two, especially. If they aren't up to snuff, flush em out of the system entirely. No sense in keeping them down there forever so Nick Schultz can continue his unremarkable career.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
was at wells fargo the other day for the first time in a while. i realize they mark up concessions and whatnot but i could not believe they were hawking them for 10.50 a pop.
- stayinthefnnet

Yea and we have to watch his slop on the ice
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
im extremely ornery and cantankerous today. can i come?
- stayinthefnnet


you're cool me, but i think you need to ask mr. moat as it's his float. as for me, i'm exhausted and unfocused. a drink and fries sound pretty good right now.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
was at wells fargo the other day for the first time in a while. i realize they mark up concessions and whatnot but i could not believe they were hawking them for 10.50 a pop.
- stayinthefnnet


it's (frank)ing obscene. OBSCENE!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
Aye... sink or swim time for the latter two, especially. If they aren't up to snuff, flush em out of the system entirely. No sense in keeping them down there forever so Nick Schultz can continue his unremarkable career.
- Tomahawk

He's been one of our better d
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
Because as somebody else said its not really gonna hurt them all that bad to be promoted either.
- JoeRussomanno


Won't hurt them that bad. Why hurt them at all? Would you rather them play sparse minutes in ES-only NHL time or top minutes in multiple manpower situations in the AHL?

I'm just totally blown away by how people see no difference between AHL and NHL player development and how it varies from player to player.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
it's (frank)ing obscene. OBSCENE!
- hammarby31

Are u nuts?! He's a (frank)ing pens fan! No he can't come, but you can throw him your cup of fries as it gets cold and soggy
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
you're cool me, but i think you need to ask mr. moat as it's his float. as for me, i'm exhausted and unfocused. a drink and fries sound pretty good right now.
- hammarby31


We've upgraded from the MOAT Boat
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
He's been one of our better d
- JoeRussomanno


He was for the first 2 games he was up. The honeymoon is over, however. Kinda like that guy they had at the tail end of 12/13, what was his name? I think he came from Detroit.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
you're cool me, but i think you need to ask mr. moat as it's his float. as for me, i'm exhausted and unfocused. a drink and fries sound pretty good right now.
- hammarby31


looking at my finals schedule. i have evidence and employment law both scheduled on the same slot. super. i have to fill out some conflict form.

i dont understand how inefficient these people can be. youd think they were all lawyers in a past life or something.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
So 2 games is enough evidence for you that he's totally prepared for top-4 NHL duty?
- jmatchett383

Nah. I want to give him a couple months. My point is there's no REAL reason to leave him down there. He's better than what we have. I think Alt and Morin are better than what we have.

On solely the basis of he HAS to be down there, I'm against it. He doesn't have to be down in the AHL. He's not going to be a better or worse player playing in the minors. It's all crap. There's no evidence that players with drive and talent get better playing in the minors for an extended time. it's just a ruse for this team to throw out a terrible product because they are "waiting for the kids to develop and showing patience."
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
Won't hurt them that bad. Why hurt them at all? Would you rather them play sparse minutes in ES-only NHL time or top minutes in multiple manpower situations in the AHL?

I'm just totally blown away by how people see no difference between AHL and NHL player development and how it varies from player to player.

- jmatchett383

U can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
Are u nuts?! He's a (frank)ing pens fan! No he can't come, but you can throw him your cup of fries as it gets cold and soggy
- JoeRussomanno


hey man if you want to waste your 10 50 just to get in a fight
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
Nah. I want to give him a couple months. My point is there's no REAL reason to leave him down there. He's better than what we have. I think Alt and Morin are better than what we have.

On solely the basis of he HAS to be down there, I'm against it. He doesn't have to be down in the AHL. He's not going to be a better or worse player playing in the minors. It's all crap. There's no evidence that players with drive and talent get better playing in the minors for an extended time. it's just a ruse for this team to throw out a terrible product because they are "waiting for the kids to develop and showing patience."

- mayorofangrytown


So you see zero difference between honing your game against AHLers before playing against NHLers as opposed to going straight from college to the NHL? You see no difference at all in those developmental paths?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
U can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.
- JoeRussomanno


So you want to break Ghost?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
He was for the first 2 games he was up. The honeymoon is over, however. Kinda like that guy they had at the tail end of 12/13, what was his name? I think he came from Detroit.
- jmatchett383

Huskins
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
Nah. I want to give him a couple months. My point is there's no REAL reason to leave him down there. He's better than what we have. I think Alt and Morin are better than what we have.

On solely the basis of he HAS to be down there, I'm against it. He doesn't have to be down in the AHL. He's not going to be a better or worse player playing in the minors. It's all crap. There's no evidence that players with drive and talent get better playing in the minors for an extended time. it's just a ruse for this team to throw out a terrible product because they are "waiting for the kids to develop and showing patience."

- mayorofangrytown


They're intentionally playing worse players as part of a ruse?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
So you want to break Ghost?
- jmatchett383

If it doesn't kill him it will make him stronger
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
it's (frank)ing obscene. OBSCENE!
- hammarby31


it is obscene. like i said i know everything gets marked up, but that just seemed like one of the most ridiculous things ive ever seen. the profit ratio for fries at regular restaurant prices is a winner. at that rate, its astronomical.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
My thing is so many people want Hextall to develop our prospects properly and now 6 games in we want to change course and rush someone up. All offseason people were happy hextall placed and emphasis on developments and drafts and now people say (frank) it. I think Hextall knew this woube a tgh season and even said before it would take a step back before moving forward.
- J35Bacher

Nope. This was my course all along. Two rookies in the lineup by January, Morin gets 9 games. You can read it in the HB library.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
hey man if you want to waste your 10 50 just to get in a fight
- stayinthefnnet

I have the high ground, bring it
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
Won't hurt them that bad. Why hurt them at all? Would you rather them play sparse minutes in ES-only NHL time or top minutes in multiple manpower situations in the AHL?

I'm just totally blown away by how people see no difference between AHL and NHL player development and how it varies from player to player.

- jmatchett383



They could probably have as many minutes as they want this season. I don't think minutes would be an issue - its not like we are the hawks with Keith, oduya, hammer, and seabs penciled in the lineup. A guy like mark streit may provide ghost better guidance/mentoring than brandon manning can.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
you're cool me, but i think you need to ask mr. moat as it's his float. as for me, i'm exhausted and unfocused. a drink and fries sound pretty good right now.
- hammarby31

Someone is going to have to sit on the right, this sh!t is tipping but there's plenty of room and beer.
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