We are not Edmonton . We has vets to shelter young players. We have a decent management. We are closer to what TB did than EDM
- VANTEL

TB has had one of the best and deepest prospect pools in the league these past few years in basically all positions. EDM was always top-heavy, after their top young guns they really lacked organizational depth in many areas.


Canucks don't have the top-end young talent either of those teams had, and still lack organizational depth in terms of quality young players IMO, especially compared to Tampa. Rough spot to be in with a non-contender.

Only want to get rid of one of them
- VANTEL

But then we won't have vet forwards to help younger players? You can't have it both ways

Ya Bonino is really a third line Center who's terrible on the dot, my God I hope it Hank McCann Horvat down the middle in the next few years

HOPE!!!
- LeftCoaster

I remember when some guys here were going at it with me when I said Bonino wasn't a legit 2nd line center prior to the trade. He's a nice offensive 3rd line center, he's fine as a 2LC if you play him with a winger that's better than him to carry the line.

But then we won't have vet forwards to help younger players? You can't have it both ways
- LeftCoaster

Hank is a forward vet

At the end of the year when Danny has 16 goals you will change your mind

But then we won't have vet forwards to help younger players? You can't have it both ways
- LeftCoaster

Enter:

Not if it's a generational type of talent though, I'd rather have that than a first round loss in 5 games.
- Nucker101

We're the best of the worst though. Even if they tried I don't think that they could tank bad enough to pick a generational talent (unless they get lucky in a later round) and they probably won't make the playoffs.

I remember when some guys here were going at it with me when I said Bonino wasn't a legit 2nd line center prior to the trade. He's a nice offensive 3rd line center, he's fine as a 2LC if you play him with a winger that's better than him to carry the line.
- Nucker101

Ya he desperately needs some higher skilled wingers to help him out.

Hank is a forward vet

At the end of the year when Danny has 16 goals you will change your mind
- VANTEL

He's had some sweet dishes so far this year and he's leading the team in scoring, to my way of thinking he's playing just fine for a 34 year old. If he scores 20 I'll be more than happy!!

Ya he desperately needs some higher skilled wingers to help him out.
- LeftCoaster

Yeah even though he is weak on the face off , I blame his wingers more than him. Put him with Evander kane and Eberle see how he does.

He's had some sweet dishes so far this year and he's leading the team in scoring, to my way of thinking he's playing just fine for a 34 year old. If he scores 20 I'll be more than happy!!
- LeftCoaster

14 mil centre too costly

Ya Bonino is really a third line Center who's terrible on the dot, my God I hope it Hank McCann Horvat down the middle in the next few years

HOPE!!!
- LeftCoaster

It's the Bonino Vey conundrum. I really like parts of both of their games, but when that's 2/4 of your centres, you might be in trouble.

Yeah even though he is weak on the face off , I blame his wingers more than him. Put him with Evander kane and Eberle see how he does.
- VANTEL

It would be much better for sure.

We're the best of the worst though. Even if they tried I don't think that they could tank bad enough to pick a generational talent (unless they get lucky in a later round) and they probably won't make the playoffs.
- CubanBuffet

I dont think it has to be a generational talent though, just solid drafting can rebuild a team pretty quick, Tampa made many great picks outside of Stamkos/Drouin/Hedman as well. Great developmental system, their farm team is always loaded with young talent that's playing well. Hell, they even had a "bust" in Brett Connolly with one of their top 10 picks and it's barely hurt them.

14 mil centre too costly
- VANTEL

They're the LEAST of the Canucks problems. We need them both or we'd be Edmonton or Carolina.

Yeah even though he is weak on the face off , I blame his wingers more than him. Put him with Evander kane and Eberle see how he does.
- VANTEL

To be fair, a lot of centers would look good playing with those 2. Bening's hands were tied with that Kesler deal so I'm not to hard on him for the Kesler deal but all I'm saying is that Bonino was sold high by ANA.

They're the LEAST of the Canucks problems. We need them both or we'd be Edmonton or Carolina.
- LeftCoaster

That's what he wants so the Canucks can land a top end prospect. I think you two have been over this argument before..

They're the LEAST of the Canucks problems. We need them both or we'd be Edmonton or Carolina.
- LeftCoaster

Not really IMO

A top line of 58-62 goals will put you in the lower half of the league

Not really IMO

A top line of 58-62 goals will put you in the lower half of the league
- VANTEL

you need to get off it and be realistic cause they ain't goin anywhere.

To be fair, a lot of centers would look good playing with those 2. Bening's hands were tied with that Kesler deal so I'm not to hard on him for the Kesler deal but all I'm saying is that Bonino was sold high by ANA.
- Nucker101

I think next year if Virtanen is ready you will see a better game from him. Burrows Higgins don't offer up a lot of offensive chances to cash in on

I dont think it has to be a generational talent though, just solid drafting can rebuild a team pretty quick, Tampa made many great picks outside of Stamkos/Drouin/Hedman as well. Great developmental system, their farm team is always loaded with young talent that's playing well. Hell, they even had a "bust" in Brett Connolly with one of their top 10 picks and it's barely hurt them.
- Nucker101

This I agree with. This year is going to be whatever it is going to be, probably pretty painful, but Benning is going to have to kill it at the draft. Not because he has a top 3 puck, but because he is able to find quality in later rounds.

you need to get off it and be realistic cause they ain't goin anywhere.
- LeftCoaster

I know they are not but we are not making the playoffs ,and like Nucker said that is fine with me

you need to get off it and be realistic cause they ain't goin anywhere.
- LeftCoaster

Here we go.....


Next up:

A leaf troll shows up to have a pissing match about who's cup drought is more pathetic.

I know they are not but we are not making the playoffs ,and like Nucker said that is fine with me
- VANTEL

We're not making the playoffs because we don't have a second line not a first line

I think next year if Virtanen is ready you will see a better game from him. Burrows Higgins don't offer up a lot of offensive chances to cash in on
- VANTEL

I also see Virtanen's game allowing him to translate into the NHL faster than our other prospects. Already has the speed/size and physicality to be effective in the NHL. And probably has better finishing ability than most of our forwards. I'm pretty excited to see him in Willie's system.

I also see Virtanen's game allowing him to translate into the NHL faster than our other prospects. Already has the speed/size and physicality to be effective in the NHL. And probably has better finishing ability than most of our forwards. I'm pretty excited to see him in Willie's system.
- Nucker101

If he's the real deal that make Shinkaruk tradable.