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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:41 PM ET
They had the full summer to change that
- VANTEL

That contract pretty much handcuffed them to Burr for now.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:43 PM ET
Easier said than done when he took over a team full of NTC's. Not sure what you realistically expected.
- Nucker101

If my hand were tied like JBs I would say to Burrows he is being shopped, if he refused ,I would tell him enjoy Utica or maybe Buffalo would pick him up. I am a heartless bastard
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:43 PM ET
If my hand were tied like JBs I would say to Burrows he is being shopped, if he refused ,I would tell him enjoy Utica or maybe Buffalo would pick him up. I am a heartless bastard
- VANTEL


Again, I don't think that was realistic though. I doubt many GM's would do that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:44 PM ET
That contract pretty much handcuffed them to Burr for now.
- LeftCoaster

Utica is beautiful this time of year if Burr didn't give a 10 team list
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Oct 21 @ 11:44 PM ET
If my hand were tied like JBs I would say to Burrows he is being shopped, if he refused ,I would tell him enjoy Utica or maybe Buffalo would pick him up. I am a heartless bastard
- VANTEL


And then nobody would ever want to sign/play in Vancouver ever again...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:44 PM ET
And then nobody would ever want to sign/play in Vancouver ever again...
- DariusKnight

Bull

Chicago Di the exact same thing to their goalie years back, people still go there
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:47 PM ET
Again, I don't think that was realistic though. I doubt many GM's would do that.
- Nucker101

Then keep an aging, unproductive , costly Forward for the next 4 years
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:47 PM ET
Bull
- VANTEL


I do agree that some of "player treatment" is overblown. FA's really only care about money, the city, and some care about winning. They don't care about loyalty if the team sucks and can't afford them.

Look at the Rangers after they had Redden riding team buses in the AHL while making 6.5 million.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:51 PM ET
Utica is beautiful this time of year if Burr didn't give a 10 team list
- VANTEL

That's 3.5 million of dead cap space though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:51 PM ET
I do agree that some of "player treatment" is overblown. FA's really only care about money, the city, and some care about winning. They don't care about loyalty if the team sucks and can't afford them.

Look at the Rangers after they had Redden riding team buses in the AHL while making 6.5 million.

- Nucker101

Exactly. If after 20 games in Burrows has 3 goals and I was Benning I would say which do you prefer? Give me a list of 10 teams or I am going to put you on waivers and where you land up after that I don't care.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:52 PM ET
That's 3.5 million of dead cap space though.
- LeftCoaster

I think Burrow would provide a list of 10 teams as opposed to riding the buses in Utica

Even if we trade Burrows we are going to take a loss
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:55 PM ET
Exactly. If after 20 games in Burrows has 3 goals and I was Benning I would say which do you prefer? Give me a list of 10 teams or I am going to put you on waivers and where you land up after that I don't care.
- VANTEL


I'm with you on this one(rare case, ). Being loyal to mediocrity is a recipe for disaster.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:55 PM ET
Exactly. If after 20 games in Burrows has 3 goals and I was Benning I would say which do you prefer? Give me a list of 10 teams or I am going to put you on waivers and where you land up after that I don't care.
- VANTEL


The more pertinent question is not whether he'd waive but whether a team would send anything meaningful back in trade. I have my doubts. Unless you're talking about a salary dump, which of course only helps if the spare salary is put to good use.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:56 PM ET
The more pertinent question is not whether he'd waive but whether a team would send anything meaningful back in trade. I have my doubts. Unless you're talking about a salary dump, which of course only helps if the spare salary is put to good use.
- AlexF


That cap would help in the future if it isn't used this season.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Oct 21 @ 11:56 PM ET
Bull

Chicago Di the exact same thing to their goalie years back, people still go there

- VANTEL


Did they do it to Versteeg?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:56 PM ET
I'm with you on this one(rare case, ). Being loyal to mediocrity is a recipe for disaster.
- Nucker101

You agreed and apologized for agreeing with me last week too

Stop that
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:58 PM ET
I think Burrow would provide a list of 10 teams as opposed to riding the buses in Utica

Even if we trade Burrows we are going to take a loss

- VANTEL

Well let's see how things look at the trade deadline. This team desperately needs a couple top six forwards though or they're in trouble. Same old same old.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:58 PM ET
The more pertinent question is not whether he'd waive but whether a team would send anything meaningful back in trade. I have my doubts. Unless you're talking about a salary dump, which of course only helps if the spare salary is put to good use.
- AlexF

You won't get anything meaningful back at all ,it is a salary dump. He is a shadow of the player he was.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:58 PM ET
That cap would help in the future if it isn't used this season.
- Nucker101


Not if it's spent on an over-paid UFA that doesn't pan out. Not disagreeing with you, just saying spare cap space is not actually useful until it's put to good use.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Oct 21 @ 11:59 PM ET
I'm with you on this one(rare case, ). Being loyal to mediocrity is a recipe for disaster.
- Nucker101


It's a completely new management team and coaching staff. They shouldn't be loyal to anyone.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:59 PM ET
Not if it's spent on an over-paid UFA that doesn't pan out. Not disagreeing with you, just saying spare cap space is not actually useful until it's put to good use.
- AlexF


If we're overpaying Burrows anyway, it's worth the risk, no?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:59 PM ET
Did they do it to Versteeg?
- CubanBuffet

Not YET
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:59 PM ET
You agreed and apologized for agreeing with me last week too

Stop that

- VANTEL

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 22 @ 12:01 AM ET
The Nucks are actually just behind where the Winnipeg Jets are, they just don't know it. The reason they're slightly ahead of us is because they're actually starting to inject some of their picks into their lineup. We're not there yet.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 22 @ 12:01 AM ET
If we're overpaying Burrows anyway, it's worth the risk, no?
- Nucker101

I am not sure if there is anyone on here who would trade Burrows today for a 7 th rounder?
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