Actually thought larsson didn't play badly last night. Didn't look out of position, yes he was a slow moving the puck, but again when you are looking over your shoulder all game it is to be expected. Salvador is killing this team. when he is on the ice it is like playing shorthanded, and he makes every penalty kill almost a 5 on 3. Plus the missing element that badly needs to be addressed is the fact that the devils can't win a face off.
- devfan30

(world explodes)

Actually thought larsson didn't play badly last night. Didn't look out of position, yes he was a slow moving the puck, but again when you are looking over your shoulder all game it is to be expected. Salvador is killing this team. when he is on the ice it is like playing shorthanded, and he makes every penalty kill almost a 5 on 3. Plus the missing element that badly needs to be addressed is the fact that the devils can't win a face off.
- devfan30

What are you

What are you
- shvingter88

a season ticket holder since day one. Sit in the defensive zone for periods one and three. So i see first hand when a defenseman can and can not play at this level. Right now the larsson/gelians shuffle is the least of the devils concerns. They have a giant hole whenever salvador is on the ice. It is painful to watch him get pushed around in front of the net and watching him try to skate to the corners.

76 more games of Salvador

What are you
- shvingter88

This is what you get for saying he is hankdatank or rangerdanger94 or whoever and that he has never said anything positive about the devils, he has to changes strategy

I think we would have won that game if the first line was intact. I know PDB likes to experiment, I just wish it didn't cost us games.

If we are experimenting why not send Henrique up to line 1 and have Zajac center Elias and Havlat.

Things I took away from the game last night,

Sal (Frank)ing Sucks

I liked Brunner's game.

Hated the Havlat-Elias-Cam Line

Zid's turnover made me want to vomit.

While I understand everyone going into panic mode after 3 straight loses, we still have 76 games!!

Another thing I want to know is why doesn't TG or Chere ask PDB after the game is why does Sal deserve to keep playing with mistake after mistake after mistake? At some point it has to be addressed, and there is not better time than the present.

This is what you get for saying he is hankdatank or rangerdanger94 or whoever and that he has never said anything positive about the devils, he has to changes strategy
- dmarsden2988

Gotta cover my tracks better

a season ticket holder since day one. Sit in the defensive zone for periods one and three. So i see first hand when a defenseman can and can not play at this level. Right now the larsson/gelians shuffle is the least of the devils concerns. They have a giant hole whenever salvador is on the ice. It is painful to watch him get pushed around in front of the net and watching him try to skate to the corners.
- devfan30

Ok but do you have spreadsheets?

This is what you get for saying he is hankdatank or rangerdanger94 or whoever and that he has never said anything positive about the devils, he has to changes strategy
- dmarsden2988

Carter yes. A - train wreck no. We all knew it was one or the other with Sal & Volch. They're the same dude.

Cement skates, occasionally block shots, occasionally hit, once in a while take a stupid penalty, maybe get a few points.
So far Volch has 2 A, 3 SOG, 18 hits, 10 Blocks, 4 PIM from minors.
Sal has 0 pts, 6 SOG, 12 hits, 8 blocked shots, 5 PIM from a fight.

Both are pylons, Volch will most likely be hurt again at some point. It's a wash.

Sal stayed because of the contracts. And that stupid "C" that needs to be ripped off his chest.

If you dudes want to throw some corsi or something into the comparison go for it. I have no idea where to find that data.

As far as the eye test, both were out of position a lot, caught flat footed frequently, defenders literally skated right around them to the crease. Neither cleared the crease.
- FLdevilsFAN

They are the same player except ATrain still has those positive attributes, Sal's have been gone for a while.