Had no idea, but it's usually different justice in this country for the rich, but LA could be F-ed because is he's found guilty he most likely will get deported, and his salary stays on the books!
- Bradlee3[img]
This tells the story http://www.tsn.ca/talent/macramalla-voynov-criminal-charges-and-deportation-1.111896[/img]

He would likely do Jail time before being Deported.

No dude. Your clearly the idiot. You have this inability to understand what others tell you. Nobody once said he will be back in a game or two. You only listen to the things you think to yourself. Repeat the same thing over and over agaian.

How many times does someone have to tell you they understand the Kings can get out of his contract. But its to early to do so without all the information. Then you just repeat yourself saying oh but the Kings can get out of his contract.

Its amazing how you think your so much better than other people. Your not even clever in trying to pursued people into thinking what you want them to think.
- poisondhearts37

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...-and-deportation-1.111896
Dude read this article then post again(or not)

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/macramalla-voynov-criminal-charges-and-deportation-1.111896
Dude read this article then post again(or not)
- Bradlee3

Im not sure you understand my argument with this guy. I know he isnt playing. I know he could be deported after possible jail time. That isnt the dispute.

No dude. Your clearly the idiot. You have this inability to understand what others tell you. Nobody once said he will be back in a game or two. You only listen to the things you think to yourself. Repeat the same thing over and over agaian.

How many times does someone have to tell you they understand the Kings can get out of his contract. But its to early to do so without all the information. Then you just repeat yourself saying oh but the Kings can get out of his contract.
- poisondhearts37

I get that Kings fans love Voynov and that he is a very good hockey player, but the dude chose the wrong time to slap a women around because after Ray Rice people rightfully started caring. Not you, of course, as you've made your love of "Freeing Slava!" clear, whatever that means.

I maintain that if the Kings wanted to they could likley void his contract under the NHL morality clause if they so chose. Likely, as I haven't been able to find an exact NHL morals clause language. At this point who knows if he'll be convicted of a felony or not, but in a civil case he's very likley done more than enough for the Kings to easily prove that he has damaged their reputation. Just Google "Voynov" and "Domestice Abuse;" You'll see that the words "LA Kings" appear before in every article. Unless you think the Kings want to be associated with domestic above, then its clear they have at least some cause under any standard morality clause to cut ties.

I get that Kings fans love Voynov and that he is a very good hockey player, but the dude chose the wrong time to slap a women around because after Ray Rice people rightfully started caring. Not you, of course, as you've made your love of "Freeing Slava!" clear, whatever that means.

I maintain that if the Kings wanted to they could likley void his contract under the NHL morality clause if they so chose. Likely, as I haven't been able to find an exact NHL morals clause language. At this point who knows if he'll be convicted of a felony or not, but in a civil case he's very likley done more than enough for the Kings to easily prove that he has damaged their reputation. Just Google "Voynov" and "Domestice Abuse;" You'll see that the words "LA Kings" appear before in every article. Unless you think the Kings want to be associated with domestic above, then its clear they have at least some cause under any standard morality clause to cut ties.
- s0rcerer1984

It was said before. Dean is loyal to his players. He isnt going to cut ties before he gets all the facts. Once he gets the facts then he will make his decisions. If all the facts come out that he is guilty. Every King fan will be fine with letting him go and cutting ties to him.

Im not sure you understand my argument with this guy. I know he isnt playing. I know he could be deported after possible jail time. That isnt the dispute.
- poisondhearts37

I guess you didn't catch the 'or not' part. He beat up his wife ! Why defend him ?

I guess you didn't catch the 'or not' part. He beat up his wife ! Why defend him ?
- Bradlee3

He hasnt been proven Guilty. Or is that not how we live anymore? I know as people we slowly keep losing our rights.

He hasnt been proven Guilty. Or is that not how we live anymore? I know as people we slowly keep losing our rights.
- poisondhearts37

While we disagree about a lot, I do agree with you that that in so far as the criminal justice system goes Voynov is innocent until proven guilty. He can not and has not (to the best of my knowledge) been unduly detained by the police, jailed, or deported by either the State of California or the US Goverment without due process.

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He hasnt been proven Guilty. Or is that not how we live anymore? I know as people we slowly keep losing our rights.
- poisondhearts37

Actually your right of innocence until proven guilty is strictly for the jury in the court room. It has nothing to do with everyone else. Per Vincent Bugliosi.

I'm a big fan of the part where it says innocent until proven guilty. If needed to calm the situation down, remove the player from the roster until the facts are out and the elevator video surfaces, but crucifying someone in public before anything is really known is not good. (Duke Lacrosse Team)

I'm a big fan of the part where it says innocent until proven guilty. If needed to calm the situation down, remove the player from the roster until the facts are out and the elevator video surfaces, but crucifying someone in public before anything is really known is not good. (Duke Lacrosse Team)
- sammy87

Blame Ray Rice for this NHL suspension, obviously.

I'm a big fan of the part where it says innocent until proven guilty. If needed to calm the situation down, remove the player from the roster until the facts are out and the elevator video surfaces, but crucifying someone in public before anything is really known is not good. (Duke Lacrosse Team)
- sammy87

Its crazy. I just installed a bunch of Data/Phone lines in elevators in a new construction of a student housing complex out here, And we had to go back and install another line in every elevator for a camera addition.

Something stupid just so hopefully these dudes shut up:


Martin, Sutter, Dumoulin

for

ROR, McGinn

maybe add picks?

Something stupid just so hopefully these dudes shut up:


Martin, Sutter, Dumoulin

for

ROR, McGinn

maybe add picks?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Quiet peasant! Just eat popcorn and enjoy

Something stupid just so hopefully these dudes shut up:


Martin, Sutter, Dumoulin

for

ROR, McGinn

maybe add picks?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Are you kidding!?! Some of us have popcorn and are really enjoying this. #crazytradedude

Something stupid just so hopefully these dudes shut up:


Martin, Sutter, Dumoulin

for

ROR, McGinn

maybe add picks?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I'd pass on that from Colorado's perspective. How do you feel about our current regimes foreign policy and if you wouldn't mind please talk to me a little about religion.

Are you kidding!?! Some of us have popcorn and are really enjoying this. #crazytradedude
- Topshelf Mountain

passes the caramel popcorn

Quiet peasant! Just eat popcorn and enjoy
- Guile

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....jinx!

passes the caramel popcorn
- Guile

Opens cooler of goodness..

And just to be clear innocent until proven guilty only applies to the judicial system the court of public opinion is entitled to pass judgement immediately

It really amazes me how different people's reactions to domestic abuse are when there is a video compared to when there is not. I know the video serves as evidence but so do the bruises, contusions, blood, concussions, etc. that the woman has. How is it less bad without a video? Like a local sports radio commentator said after the Rice incident, the Ravens didn't cut him because they saw the video - they cut him because the world saw it. That incident was probably not much worse than the 50+ such incidents in the NFL over the past decade (including some Steelers) but unlike those couldn't be swept under the rug because of the video. Just because there isn't a (known) video of Voynov beating his wife doesn't mean that it isn't as bad or even worse than the Rice incident. And all but the the most callous Ravens fans agreed with dumping Rice.

Hockey is my favorite sport to watch for a variety of reasons including the blend of speed, skill, strategy, and physicality it has. I also like the fact that the guys who play it seem like good, normal people for the most part. Incidents like Voynov's are rare among NHL players. In the NFL, they were routine until the Rice incident. If it were not for the fact that the players of the NFL were playing professional football half of them would likely be in prison. This has caused me to lose interest in the game, including in the Steelers. Baseball and Basketball are too boring for me.

I do agree with you that there is no way that the Pens will be able to unload Scuderi and I don't think the Kings need Martin, even if they lose Voynov for the season. There are some teams that could probably use Martin but I would rather the Pens just keep him .

Who gives a frank about Voynov, he is under investigation (felony) and won't return to the NHL until that is concluded and or charges are filed.

To the real matter, Bortuzzo is healthy and Scuds still sucks. Time to make the move Mike. Show some onions

Assuming Sundqust is capable of making the big club next year, that would make Sid, Geno, Sutter, Sundquest, Goc and Spaling all centers. I think Sutter becomes the odd man out at that point. He is playing well on the #2 role, I think a team desperate for a C would go after Sutter. Next year your lines could be:

Kunitz-87-PH
X-Malkin-Kap
Dupes-Goc-BB
Spaling-Sundquest-Megna
Downie, Comeau?

Not bad IMO.

What if what if what if what if what if what if
- Ryan_Wilson

You're right. We should only deal in known facts and never ever speculate about any possibilities henceforth on this site.