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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 6:29 PM ET
Anyone else here the schenn bros for eberle and petry rumors and someone else if perron is included?
- mydoglicks

Petry is an impending UFA. With Ghost, Morin and Hagg coming up in the next two years I think the last thing Hexy wants to do is trade assets for an impending UFA D man that he basically has to sign just to make the deal look good.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 21 @ 6:30 PM ET
Provide the link to the "rumor"
- ob18

Theflyersfeed.com its on my facebook page and im on my cell not sure how to copy and paste on this thing. Basically says schenns and cooter for eberle parron and petry
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 6:30 PM ET
Anyone else here the schenn bros for eberle and petry rumors and someone else if perron is included?
- mydoglicks

Petry is an impending UFA. With Ghost, Morin and Hagg coming up in the next two years I think the last thing Hexy wants to do is trade assets for an impending UFA D man that he basically has to sign just to make the deal look good.

I would still try to deal for Eberle though. And then Perron if the cost for Eberle is too steep.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 21 @ 6:30 PM ET
Provide the link to the "rumor"
- ob18

does a random poster on a hb thread count?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 21 @ 6:32 PM ET
With the Flyers and Avs struggling out of the gate you've gotta wonder if these two teams might talk trade early in the season, like they did last year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 6:39 PM ET
http://www.letsgoflyers.n...lyers-and-oilers-talking/

Somebody named Mike Panteleone has it for Broken Bell Sports, no idea of his rep or validity.

As Andrew Devitt, blogger who wrote above, mentions while referencing the rumor from Broken Bell, there have been reports from guys like Dreger & MacKenzie that Edmonton is shopping Petry and looking for center help.

It's a big leap from Couturier & the Schenn boys for Eberle, Perron & Petry, though
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 21 @ 6:41 PM ET
does a random poster on a hb thread count?
- Marc D

The flyers fan page app is also reporting a similar rumor and that francis boulion turned down a contract offer last week from the flyers
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 6:41 PM ET
The flyers fan page app is also reporting a similar rumor and that francis boulion turned down a contract offer last week from the flyers
- mydoglicks


Boullion was reported a few days ago by Ren Lavoie formerly of RDS
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 21 @ 6:42 PM ET
I agree that Akeson is not suited for 4th line duties, but the bottom line is that there are better players ahead of him on the roster. And he can earn more playing time by playing better. Like most young players do.



Berube knows that he plays MacDonald too much, and even said so recently. But he doesn't have a lot of choice there. The Flyers don't have a legitimate top pairing defensively, and MacDonald is one of the best choices they have. And MacDonald is a far better defenseman then some fans such as yourself give him credit for.



He doesn't under utilize Voracek at ES. The problem is the type of icetime that is available at ES. Flyers face lots of D zone starts, which the Couturier line takes a lot of. Which is why Read and Couturier are high on the team in ES icetime. And that's because right now, the Flyers are very inconsistent as a team defensively, and he only trusts the Couturier line in the defensive zone. If the Flyers were a better defensive team, and controlled the puck more, Voracek's ES icetime would go up. So stating that Berube underutilized Voracek at ES, is flawed and incomplete analysis. Bottom line is more offensive opportunities available at ES, the more ES icetime Voracek will get.



Umberger is 7th on the team in ES icetime among forwards. Which puts him in the 3rd line category. Which is what he is. He is a veteran player adjusting to a new team. But judgements have already been made on the player, 5 games into the season.



Only a 3 game sample, but Lecavalier ranks 11th on the team among forwards in ES icetime. And he's been primarily used in O zone starts and offensive situations. Which is exactly how he should be used. Still a good offensive player who has value to a team. So stating that he has been over played or over valued, is simply false.



Matter of opinion. I have no issue with how he handles the goaltending starts. But nitpicking is always present.



Brayden Schenn deserved to lose his spot at 1LW. At least temporarily. He wasn't skating hard, getting on the puck, or doing anything that you need a 1LW to do. So a message was sent. And not sure if you noticed or not, but the last two games, Schenn has ramped up his play, and was rewarded with 20 minutes of icetime. Which is a lot for a forward. Classis case of taking away icetime for poor play. And rewarding good play with icetime. QUality coaching by Berube there.



I'd like to see Read get a shot there personally. But I'm not going to label it a mistake to leave a player in a spot and a role that he's been great at. And to label that as part of not getting the most out of a roster, is flawed. Because none of us know if he would be good in that role or not. So that is just speculation, and isn't a valid reason for stating that the coach is not getting the most out of the roster.



Akeson is below other players on the depth chart. He has to earn icetime on another line. That's the way it is in the league for some players. And not uncommon. A player that the Flyers will face tonight, Patrick Sharpe started on the 4th line in the NHL. As did Carter and Richards. But apparently, Akeson is above that and too good for that.



Couturier is 21 years old. And we're 5 games into the season. Lots of season left for Couturier to develop his offensive game. So a bit premature here. And criticizing the Coach for the way he uses Couturier, with the roster the way it is, and the current state of the team defense, is silly. He doesn't have much choice.

- MJL

so you claim
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 21 @ 6:44 PM ET
Boullion was reported a few days ago by Ren Lavoie formerly of RDS
- Jsaquella

Guess im laught just sitting here wsiting for tires on my car and chasing rumors
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 21 @ 6:44 PM ET
so you claim
- Crimsoninja

that's purely speculative
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 6:44 PM ET
Guess im laught just sitting here wsiting for tires on my car and chasing rumors
- mydoglicks




I only remember that because there were a few people I follow on twitter going apepoop about it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 21 @ 6:45 PM ET
that's purely speculative
- BulliesPhan87



And over exaggerated!
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 21 @ 6:47 PM ET


I only remember that because there were a few people I follow on twitter going apepoop about it.

- Jsaquella


Sounds pretty desperate to offer him a contract imo
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 6:47 PM ET

- wilsonecho91


That poop is delicious too.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
Sounds pretty desperate to offer him a contract imo
- mydoglicks


You see the defense?

Flyers offered him a two way deal and told him he'd have to start in minors, per Lavoie. That's why he said no. Not interested in bus rides at his age.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
With the Flyers and Avs struggling out of the gate you've gotta wonder if these two teams might talk trade early in the season, like they did last year.
- hereticpride

i'm sure they'd love to fleece us again in a trade but we don't have much left to dump now
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
And over exaggerated!
- MJL

I am always caught unawares when you go from battle mode to telling a joke
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 21 @ 6:52 PM ET
I am always caught unawares when you go from battle mode to telling a joke
- BulliesPhan87


Part of my charm. Always keep you on your toes!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 21 @ 6:54 PM ET
Your ranking system is exquisite
- PhillySportsGuy

Wut
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 21 @ 6:54 PM ET
Nate Horton might have his career ended by his back injury, per Aaron Portzline. That sucks.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 6:55 PM ET
I am always caught unawares when you go from battle mode to telling a joke
- BulliesPhan87


Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 21 @ 6:55 PM ET
My wine rack disagrees
- AllInForFlyers

Love me some fresh crisp red grapes

Also Fuji apples. Those are the poop.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 21 @ 6:57 PM ET
is Luke Schenn a pomegranate?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 21 @ 6:57 PM ET
http://www.letsgoflyers.net/2014/10/21/rumor-watch-flyers-and-oilers-talking/

Somebody named Mike Panteleone has it for Broken Bell Sports, no idea of his rep or validity.

As Andrew Devitt, blogger who wrote above, mentions while referencing the rumor from Broken Bell, there have been reports from guys like Dreger & MacKenzie that Edmonton is shopping Petry and looking for center help.

It's a big leap from Couturier & the Schenn boys for Eberle, Perron & Petry, though

- Jsaquella

Couts for Eberle doesn't make sense from the Flyers standpoint to me.
Eberle is really another top six RW where they have Jake and Simmonds.

Petry is upcoming UFA, I would not spend assets for that.
If they want to swap VLC/Umby/other vet for Petry sure. But Brayden Schenn? NFW.
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