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Yak was buzzing last night but without a stinger, couple of offsides, missed assignments, and a few giveaways. Still looked like he was playing an individual game. Didn't play too too poorly, but I see where Eakins was coming from. - Boosinicka
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Not sure what game you watched along with many other fans, but eberle has played better every game since returning from injury. I thought he was one of the most dangerous players last night - OilerFan16
He definitely had a better night- but one could say that he is a little snake bitten - all those glorious chances but could not bury 1... |
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You guys need D help as well.
A trade around Sutter/Dumoulin for Perron+ or Yakupov should work. - Barnaby36
(frank) yourself please... |
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I am going to just come out and say it. Eakins, still terrible. Nail again comes out flying. Is the reason for Shultz goal. 2 min of ice time that period. 10 minutes in total. Now I am not saying Nail is top line. He is probably not even second line at this point. What I am saying is he is not 4 th line. He takes the body, he has moves and yet Pouliot with more TIO, who has less points than Nail keeps getting PP time.
Plus I have to say it. I said Marincin should be up. They say him and Fayne looked good. I think Marincin carried Fayne but that is IMO. I do know that Eakins has to at least regret having Pouliot as the shoot out anchor after seeing how easy Hall made that look. Nail also leads Pouliot and Purcell in Points, TKA, he has 1 and 2 less shots respectively averaging 40% less ice time. Plus the other two have PP time and PP points. Nail also leads them in hits.
You can't tell me a statistics guy like Eakins isn't holding a grudge. Nail is not just being wasted on the bench his development is seriously damaged. This has to weigh on him, his confidence, his morale and quite frankly, his ability to develop the skill set that made him our first overall draft. Eakins didn't win this game. Our top line and Scrivens did. - Hall Fan
Eakins harbours a grudge? Jesus kid , you must really be desperate for things to write about.
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Jeropotato
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I like Perron a lot. I think he could be the second best Oiler some nights. However he is one of the 4 forwards we have that has real value and we desperately need a centerman. Leon is actually doing good for a rookie at face offs but he can play wing. He has in the past. If Perron can get us a Center of value, then pull the trigger. If not keep him. We need a center, what we don't need is randomly trading away talent just because.
I am sorry but we need to see what this team can do under different management, not different players. - Hall Fan
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I am going to just come out and say it. Eakins, still terrible. Nail again comes out flying. Is the reason for Shultz goal. 2 min of ice time that period. 10 minutes in total. Now I am not saying Nail is top line. He is probably not even second line at this point. What I am saying is he is not 4 th line. He takes the body, he has moves and yet Pouliot with more TIO, who has less points than Nail keeps getting PP time.
Plus I have to say it. I said Marincin should be up. They say him and Fayne looked good. I think Marincin carried Fayne but that is IMO. I do know that Eakins has to at least regret having Pouliot as the shoot out anchor after seeing how easy Hall made that look. Nail also leads Pouliot and Purcell in Points, TKA, he has 1 and 2 less shots respectively averaging 40% less ice time. Plus the other two have PP time and PP points. Nail also leads them in hits.
You can't tell me a statistics guy like Eakins isn't holding a grudge. Nail is not just being wasted on the bench his development is seriously damaged. This has to weigh on him, his confidence, his morale and quite frankly, his ability to develop the skill set that made him our first overall draft. Eakins didn't win this game. Our top line and Scrivens did. - Hall Fan
you're a hindsight champion. It's impressive actually how things happen and then u can say u would or wouldn'tve done them depending on whether they worked or not.
We won the game and played our best Game defensively. Which is one of the biggest reasons we won. This is so much more important than yaks playing. Thing about the Eakins haters is that it doesn't matter if they win, uve banged the drum so hard, and refused to accept deeper problems in favour of your easy solution, u can't go back now.
Also, hall himself has admitted he's pretty weak on breakaways and shootouts his entire career. And as a pro, he's missed far more than he's made. More brilliant hindsight from u after he made his penalty shot over a week later....
Hall is not great on shootouts and Pouliot has more effective moves than him. This isnt up for debate. And they work on this stuff in practice man!! Pouliot has clearly proven this! This isnt just drawing names out of a hat! How do u not know this?
More hindsight on the marincin call. Ur really good at this it seems. trouble is, 95% of the posters here said the same thing, so don't pat urself on the back too hard.
And no, he did not 'carry' Fayne. Ur flat out wrong. But again; uve banged the drum so repetitively on mact failing when signing him, that u can't go back now.
I'm sorry, but terrible fuking post |
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Eakins harbours a grudge? Jesus kid , you must really be desperate for things to write about. - Jeropotato
It goes from stupid to just nonsensical.
A grudge? This is fantasy movie land stuff he's entered now |
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you're a hindsight champion. It's impressive actually how things happen and then u can say u would or wouldn'tve done them depending on whether they worked or not.
We won the game and played our best Game defensively. Which is one of the biggest reasons we won. This is so much more important than yaks playing. Thing about the Eakins haters is that it doesn't matter if they win, uve banged the drum so hard, and refused to accept deeper problems in favour of your easy solution, u can't go back now.
Also, hall himself has admitted he's pretty weak on breakaways and shootouts his entire career. And as a pro, he's missed far more than he's made. More brilliant hindsight from u after he made it. Hall is not great on shootouts and Pouliot has more effective moves than him. This isnt up for debate.
More hindsight on the marincin call. Ur really good at this it seems. trouble is, 95% of the posters here said the same thing, so don't pat urself on the back too hard.
And no, he did not 'carry' Fayne. Ur flat out wrong. But again; uve banged the drum so repetitively on mact failing when signing him, that u can't go back now.
I'm sorry, but terrible fuking post - hugefemale dog77
you're just great. I just skip over DerpFan's posts now. |
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HB77
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HB77
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Sutter would jump right into the 2nd line as C and can play top 6 minutes as a wing as well. I'm not the one treating players like $hit in Edmonton. - Barnaby36
Perron for Sutter?
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Perron for Sutter?
No thanks - hugefemale dog77
"But your team will never get better unless you trade your offensive guys for bottom 6 plugs. Stupid Oilers fans are idiots for not making trades for there GM" |
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I used to defend him when jero and iggy wrote mean sh1t.
But the posts have gotten indefensible. .. - hugefemale dog77
Things were pretty hasty for a while, but the blog-style comments were just painful. And, yes, they have gotten worse. It's a pain. |
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HB77
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I think he complained about giving eberle a shot as well as he had a less than stellar game.
yes, always a bad idea to give one of the slickest players in the game and a guy's who's scored multiple highlight reel goals in the shootout, a chance... |
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HB77
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"But your team will never get better unless you trade your offensive guys for bottom 6 plugs. Stupid Oilers fans are idiots for not making trades for there GM" - Oilfan19
Just a little ray of wisdom for the outsiders to try and help us oiler fans out.
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Jeropotato
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I used to defend him when jero and iggy wrote mean sh1t.
But the posts have gotten indefensible. .. - hugefemale dog77
Mean? |
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ChetManly
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Just a little ray of wisdom for the outsiders to try and "help" us oiler fans out. - hugefemale dog77
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Mean? - Jeropotato
Yeah.
U guys eviscerated him on the reg.
I started to feel bad for him. He was like a punching bag.
But the more I read the same old crazy sh1t from the same posters, I'm over defending. As I said; it's indefensible |
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Jeropotato
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Yeah.
U guys eviscerated him on the reg.
I started to feel bad for him. He was like a punching bag.
But the more I read the same old crazy sh1t from the same posters, I'm over defending. As I said; it's indefensible - hugefemale dog77
That comment he made about how management needs to change not the players ranks as one of the dumbest.
Essentially he is saying that Mac T did a great job ( he picked the players) and that like magic when he and Lowe disappear the team will suddenly perform. Can someone explain how that works? |
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That comment he made about how management needs to change not the players ranks as one of the dumbest.
Essentially he is saying that Mac T did a great job ( he picked the players) and that like magic when he and Lowe disappear the team will suddenly perform. Can someone explain how that works? - Jeropotato
Here is the derp level thought process:
1) Players suck, get new ones
2) Players still suck, get new coach
3) Coach and players still suck, get new GM.
4) Everything still sucks, get new President
5) Everything still sucks with all those changes, replace the next guy up the ladder
6) continue until brain melts from mountain dew consumption. |
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Here is the derp level thought process:
1) Players suck, get new ones
2) Players still suck, get new coach
3) Coach and players still suck, get new GM.
4) Everything still sucks, get new President
5) Everything still sucks with all those changes, replace the next guy up the ladder
6) continue until brain melts from mountain dew consumption. - ChetManly
and here's my derp chart
1) start rebuild with drafting of Hall. team still sucks. change coach
2) Eberle and Hall both look promising, team still sucks. change coach
3) draft Nuge, kid looks killer in his first season, team still sucks, but slowly progessing, especially in special teams. change coach
4) draft Yakupov, sign Schultz, team still sucks, but special teams is one of the best in the league and Yakupov looks like a true stud and Schultz looks like a promising offensive defenseman. moved up 7 spots, pretty decent progress. change coach.
5) bring in new coach, benches leading goal scorer from previous year and demotes to 4th line, special teams is brutal, defense techincally better but looks far worse. keep coach
6) continue with same coach with FAR better supporting cast, 2nd best D from last year demoted, best D healthy scratch. plug D playing 19-22 minutes per night, leading goal scorer from just 2 seasons ago still playing 4th line minutes (least on the team) even though he looks like a new man. season starts 0-4-1, herpa derp? Why are we still bad?
any and all progress completely shot to poop, team goes from slowly but surely progressing to completely falling apart and becoming even worse even though the team on paper is way better and the young core is older, stronger and more mature.
can't. connect. dots. Coach is not a problem, all the previous coaches were the problem. |
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and here's my derp chart
1) start rebuild with drafting of Hall. team still sucks. change coach
2) Eberle and Hall both look promising, team still sucks. change coach
3) draft Nuge, kid looks killer in his first season, team still sucks, but slowly progessing, especially in special teams. change coach
4) draft Yakupov, sign Schultz, team still sucks, but special teams is one of the best in the league and Yakupov looks like a true stud and Schultz looks like a promising offensive defenseman. moved up 7 spots, pretty decent progress. change coach.
5) bring in new coach, benches leading goal scorer from previous year and demotes to 4th line, special teams is brutal, defense techincally better but looks far worse. keep coach
6) continue with same coach with FAR better supporting cast, 2nd best D from last year demoted, best D healthy scratch. plug D playing 19-22 minutes per night, leading goal scorer from just 2 seasons ago still playing 4th line minutes (least on the team) even though he looks like a new man. season starts 0-4-1, herpa derp? Why are we still bad?
any and all progress completely shot to poop, team goes from slowly but surely progressing to completely falling apart and becoming even worse even though the team on paper is way better and the young core is older, stronger and more mature.
can't. connect. dots. Coach is not a problem, all the previous coaches were the problem. - SpoiledByOil
Didn't read post. I'm gonna guess you just rip on Eakins with no acknowledgement that the roster is still not all that good. Am I close? |
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Didn't read post. I'm gonna guess you just rip on Eakins with no acknowledgement that the roster is simy not all that good. Am I close? - Jeropotato
Why even bother asking? Put on your big boy pants and read it. As much as i'm an bumhole, you guys can never refute my critizisms with anything other than side stepping and deflecting arguments.
Edit: Teams don't progress with younger players and a farrrrr worse supporting cast just to magically fall apart as soon as the supporting cast vastly improves and the team gets older. It's not a coencidence, it's not bad timing for Eakins. |
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HB77
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and here's my derp chart
1) start rebuild with drafting of Hall. team still sucks. change coach
2) Eberle and Hall both look promising, team still sucks. change coach
3) draft Nuge, kid looks killer in his first season, team still sucks, but slowly progessing, especially in special teams. change coach
4) draft Yakupov, sign Schultz, team still sucks, but special teams is one of the best in the league and Yakupov looks like a true stud and Schultz looks like a promising offensive defenseman. moved up 7 spots, pretty decent progress. change coach.
5) bring in new coach, benches leading goal scorer from previous year and demotes to 4th line, special teams is brutal, defense techincally better but looks far worse. keep coach
6) continue with same coach with FAR better supporting cast, 2nd best D from last year demoted, best D healthy scratch. plug D playing 19-22 minutes per night, leading goal scorer from just 2 seasons ago still playing 4th line minutes (least on the team) even though he looks like a new man. season starts 0-4-1, herpa derp? Why are we still bad?
any and all progress completely shot to poop, team goes from slowly but surely progressing to completely falling apart and becoming even worse even though the team on paper is way better and the young core is older, stronger and more mature.
can't. connect. dots. Coach is not a problem, all the previous coaches were the problem. - SpoiledByOil
I think your progression is greatly exaggerated. 5v5 was terrible.
And we still finished 7th last in a shortened season. With a head start with our core playing together in north America. Not only that but we were took a nosedive as soon as it was crunch time in that season and everyone else ramped it up. We lost like 9/10 down the stretch.
And yaks looked like a true stud?! Holy exaggeration. He started well, finished super well when we were already done, and was invisible for a huge chunk of the meat of the season.
He looked promising, but I think urs is abit revisionist. And sophomore slumps are hardly uncommon. I hesitate to blame it on the coach is he playing stronger defensively now? Seeming less lost? Do u attribute that to coaching ( or just all the bad stuff? |
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send leon down and bring up lander. hall/nuge/ebs, perron/arco/purcell, pouliot/lander/yakapov, hendriks/gordon/jonesu. This would stabilize everything. You wouldn't have to shelter leon by giving him 70% offensive zone starts and taking those away from hall et al. The second line would be a true second line, and pouliot/lander/yakapov could clean up leftover minutes with the 4th line getting the most d-zone starts. Lander has not really produced, but he has been saddled with boat anchors his entire career. He needs this shot. Run these lines until we bring someone else in and leave Acton in the minors. Lander will be fine in that role. We need better obviously, but the way Eakins is deploying right now is drags everyone down instead of just one line. |
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Why even bother asking? Put on your big boy pants and read it. As much as i'm an bumhole, you guys can never refute my critizisms with anything other than side stepping and deflecting arguments.
Edit: Teams don't progress with younger players and a farrrrr worse supporting cast just to magically fall apart as soon as the supporting cast vastly improves and the team gets older. It's not a coencidence, it's not bad timing for Eakins. - SpoiledByOil u keep saying that as if it somehow makes ur thoughts stronger.
I addressed every point he made |
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