I wonder if Tanev and his agent are looking at that new Brodie deal and wanting something similar.

I wonder if Tanev and his agent are looking at that new Brodie deal and wanting something similar.
- Nucker101

I am fine with Tanev getting 4 mil during his 25-30 years. Lock him up Benning

Yeah, I agree with that. He's nothing special. Sucks losing the pick though, I'd rather keep as many picks in the first 2 or 3 rounds as possible, better chance at hitting the lottery and getting a good future NHL player.
- Nucker101

I agree at this point more picks the better, its funny how hindsight changes things. Bad idea to move a pick and prospect to get Roy who didn't produce but nobody talks about that Van gave up Frederik Anderson for Lapierre. Had Roy played like he was expected and this team went to the finals or even western finals, nobody would care about that pick.

I agree at this point more picks the better, its funny how hindsight changes things. Bad idea to move a pick and prospect to get Roy who didn't produce but nobody talks about that Van gave up Frederik Anderson for Lapierre. Had Roy played like he was expected and this team went to the finals or even western finals, nobody would care about that pick.
- belcherbd

King of the draft picks was Pat Quinn. Every deal he did his best to get a draft pick thrown in, even if it was only a 7th (or back then a 9th rounder). You wanted to deal with him, then you better plan on a throw away draft pick to be included.

Just did a quick search and realized that Gillis definitely targeted players in-season that were scoring at a lower rate(in terms of sh%) compared to career norms.

2011 TDL
Chris Higgins: Had a shooting percentage of 8.7% that year with Florida, compared to a career normal of 10.1%.

Max Lapierre: Had a 4.7% shooting percentage with MON/ANA that year, career rate is 8.0%.

2013 TDL
Derek Roy: Had a 6.2% shooting percentage with DAL, career norm is 12.0%.

Gillis also made an offer for Ryane Clowe who chose the Rangers over us with his NTC. Clowe was goal-less with a 0% shooing percentage, his career norm is 11.1%.





This was his attempt at MoneyBall during with in-season trades. While it makes sense mathematically he didn't account for natural decline in some of these guys(Higgins/Lappy worked out, but the others have definitely declined). A decrease in shooting percentage is a sign of a player declining so Gillis was targeting some players who were trending downward.
- Nucker101

Right on Nucker. I never thought about it... you went a step further and researched it. You only make me lazier with the good work.


What about Booth? Clearly his most productive days were behind him now that we look back. Gillis was banking on a healthy rebound.

While Booth, Roy, Ballard were all flops (and I can't blame him on Ballard as everyone thought he would do well), Gillis did do well in picking up Samuellsson and Higgins after they looked like they were declining. He also managed to find Tanev and Stanton where the " scouting eye " would of been used.

I'm glad Gillis is gone but I'm not ready to proclaim Benning as a good GM yet based upon Vrbata fitting with the Sedins. If Bonino proves he can be a 2C, Vey proves he is an NHLer and Sbisa can be a solid bottom pairing guy, Benning will look great.

Right now I'm only betting 1/3 of those players meets his expectations.
- belcherbd

Im not going to factor in Sbisa and Bonino if they dont work out thats for sure. Its not like Benning had any choice but to take the Ducks best offer. Listening to the coach about Vey may work out like when AV did that for Nonis regarding Burrows. Although Burrows was picked up for nothing...

I wonder if Tanev and his agent are looking at that new Brodie deal and wanting something similar.
- Nucker101

They probably do want similar but I think they are different players ...tanev is probably a more defensive solid d man while Brodie brings a better first pass offensive minded game

Pardon me if this has already been mentioned, but there is no way in the world that Raymond can sustain anywhere near the 25% SP he's currently at.

(his average is around 10-11%)

Pardon me if this has already been mentioned, but there is no way in the world that Raymond can sustain anywhere near the 25% SP he's currently at.

(his average is around 10-11%)
- Zogg

No

But look where his goals have been scored from ...one was a deflection and the rest have been in very high percentage scoring areas ...he isn't just shooting from across the blue line

Pardon me if this has already been mentioned, but there is no way in the world that Raymond can sustain anywhere near the 25% SP he's currently at.

(his average is around 10-11%)
- Zogg

It didn't need to be said.
Somethings in life are just so bloody obvious. Like the Leafs winning the cup in October.

It didn't need to be said.
Somethings in life are just so bloody obvious. Like the Leafs winning the cup in October.
- Marwood

I don't think they should be having golfing tournaments during the hockey season

It didn't need to be said.
Somethings in life are just so bloody obvious. Like the Leafs winning the cup in October.
- Marwood

Not this year they aren't.

I'm number 1, I'm number 1.

Not this year they aren't.
- Yeti1181

Just wait until they string two victories together.

Really?
Based on what?
- Marwood

seriously, who on the canucks is a playoff performing?

Im not being passive aggressive but I think the closest person on the canucks that really showed up and over performed in the playoffs was probably well wood back on the cup run.

Kesler had that amazing series against the Preds. But I can't say I can think of anyone that hit a Williams level of a real playoff performer.

I wonder if Tanev and his agent are looking at that new Brodie deal and wanting something similar.
- Nucker101

I think Tanev will be a similar type player. Wasn't he a year behind Brodie in draft?

Pardon me if this has already been mentioned, but there is no way in the world that Raymond can sustain anywhere near the 25% SP he's currently at.

(his average is around 10-11%)
- Zogg

ya, its not going to happen.

I think he'll do better then previous seasons due to opportunities he'll have, and team speed fitting his style. But he's over performing at the moment.

Im guessing 22g this year.

Just wait until they string two victories together.
- Marwood

Does the all-star game count as one if the East win?

seriously, who on the canucks is a playoff performing?

Im not being passive aggressive but I think the closest person on the canucks that really showed up and over performed in the playoffs was probably well wood back on the cup run.

Kesler had that amazing series against the Preds. But I can't say I can think of anyone that hit a Williams level of a real playoff performer.
- numbear

My question was about most of the Canucks always having slow starts?
I'm still waiting for your answer.


You are, a passive-aggressive.

My question was about most of the Canucks always having slow starts?
I'm still waiting for your answer.


You are, a passive-aggressive.
- Marwood

I was responding to a comment about players disappearing in the playoffs. Wasn't very passive me saying that I didn't think a canuck on the current team was that type of player. More bluntly just stating a thought.

As for slow starts, Never really thought that way about the team. Sedins seem to always play better with rest (not a knock). If anything thats when they are more dangerous.

I thought they'd lose against edmonton the other night after that long break mostly because of them having a new system (coach) and edmonton becoming desperate and feeling the need to prove themselves....not sure what question you asked me.

My question was about most of the Canucks always having slow starts?
I'm still waiting for your answer.


You are, a passive-aggressive.
- Marwood

Don't get trolls high.

ya, its not going to happen.

I think he'll do better then previous seasons due to opportunities he'll have, and team speed fitting his style. But he's over performing at the moment.

Im guessing 22g this year.
- numbear

I think that's much more realistic, indeed

I was responding to a comment about players disappearing in the playoffs. Wasn't very passive me saying that I didn't think a canuck on the current team was that type of player. More bluntly just stating a thought.

As for slow starts, Never really thought that way about the team. Sedins seem to always play better with rest (not a knock). If anything thats when they are more dangerous.

I thought they'd lose against edmonton the other night after that long break mostly because of them having a new system (coach) and edmonton becoming desperate and feeling the need to prove themselves....not sure what question you asked me.
- numbear

I looked over your comment and saw how I could have been mistaken.

True enough about no one player truly standing out consistently in the play offs.

You can still be passive-aggressive.

I looked over your comment and saw how I could have been mistaken.

True enough about no one player truly standing out consistently in the play offs.

You can still be passive-aggressive.
- Marwood

nah, i'll stick with being correct

I wonder if Tanev and his agent are looking at that new Brodie deal and wanting something similar.
- Nucker101

Tanev can't score.... his muffin shot and lack of any ability except making the safe play make him a bad comparison.