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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
with insight like this you should be the new blog writer!!
- jwbadlands

I'm not sure you simpletons would be able to understand the advanced algorithms that I utilized to come to that percentage.

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:57 AM ET
"In ownership news, Sports Illustrated is reporting that Barclays Center majority owner, Bruce Ratner, is selling his share of the arena. What does this mean for the Islanders? New owners, Jonathan Ledecky and Scott Malkin, have been linked as possible suitors to become majority owners of the building. If this becomes a reality, it would really cement the Islanders future in Brooklyn."


I have a different take on this. The Isles' lease is with the Ratner entity that owns the Barclays Center, right?. If Ratner continues to control the Barclays Center, there would be little chance of the Isles getting out of their lease at a reasonable price. On the other hand, if the Isles' new owners control the Barclays Center, then they control both ends of the same lease. In other words, if it becomes economically feasible for whatever reason (NVMC gets renovated, e.g.), then the Isles can break their lease with Barclays with no consequences. (Presumably, the Barclays can still turn a profit without the Isles.)

- JohnScammo





so what youre saying is the owners would pay for the barclays center and then pay ratner millions of dollars for another lease at the coli??....hmmm
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
what's the difference, they both offer pretty much the same thing,lol.
- jwbadlands

oh snap
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 21 @ 12:03 PM ET


so what youre saying is the owners would pay for the barclays center and then pay ratner millions of dollars for another lease at the coli??....hmmm

- LetsGoIsles

Good business sense. Some have it. Some don't. Lol
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
Good business sense. Some have it. Some don't. Lol
- Isles_since_6

I have a car I may want to sell you. If you do buy it how about you put 20,000 miles on it and I'll buy it back from you at a higher price? Deal?
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:35 PM ET
I got into a flame war about this in a different venue- basically got told that the only reason I want them to move to Brooklyn is because I live in New Jersey, and it's closer (speaking of pointless- because of train schedules, it won't take me any less time to get there). The revenue argument goes through one ear and out the other one. If only these people in Nassau County had broken Hempstead's ba11s when it could have done some good, instead of whining about something they can no longer do anything about (not to mention the scoreboard, and all kinds of other worthless sh*t). I went and sat in on Nassau County legislature meetings in regards to trying to save the Islanders before Wang bought the team, and back then, I lived in PENNSYLVANIA. No one wanted to see the Isles leave Long Island (and yes, I know Long Island well enough to know that Brooklyn is ON Long Island, but it's not "Long Island")- the problem is, hardly anyone living in Nassau or Suffolk did a d*mn thing about it. You reap what you sow, as the saying goes.
- dcb1



i tend to find that your opinions are interesting and backed up by fact but i just dont have the time to read a whole megilla every time you post.

keep it short and sweet, as the saying goes.

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:38 PM ET
On this team in seasons past, the skill players have always seemed to play with more confidence when there's some muscle in the lineup. I don't know why...the goons get limited ice time and aren't exactly skating alongside the scorers...but just having them on the bench still seems to have some influence. Martin's probably enough most nights (especially against Toronto, which seems to be all-in on 4th line possession numbers at the expense of 4th line toughness this season). But Boulton's nice to have to even the odds when there's a heavyweight in the lineup for the other team.

I don't know about a deterrent. I don't think Boulton in the lineup would have prevented John Scott from throwing a clean check on Grabovski, for example. But maybe players think a little more in general because there's at least the threat of retaliation. Not a staged fight, but a goon could target a skill player on the other team in retaliation for something done to a teammate earlier. I think in any setting, the tough guy acts different when he's the only big dog in the room versus when there's someone else there who can give him a run for his money.

- UIF



fwiw, it was a clean hit. grabos head was down.

youre gonna get hit by the train if youre playing on the tracks
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:39 PM ET
With teams having D injuries/issues does Carkner have trade value???

Maybe waiver value instead.....

- Ur Not Me



you know times are good when:
you complain about who is sitting in the press box.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 21 @ 12:40 PM ET
fwiw, it was a clean hit. grabos head was down.

youre gonna get hit by the train if youre playing on the tracks

- LetsGoIsles

And goons as "deterrents" is the communism of hockey. Makes sense in theory, but in actuality it's just a giant steaming turd.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
I agree this is a must win. 5-1 compare to 4-2 is big difference. They have difficult schedule going in the Nov. Some teams are struggling in the division they need to add some space. It also a must win because I have 8 friends coming over tonight to watch the game and they're all leaf fans.
- dack1972



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jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
"i'm not going after the coach because he isn't going anywhere...i'm also being realistic.. the only major issue I have with him is his usage of the fourth line. this fan base is hilarious at times, lose one game fire the coach. tweak lines at practice, jump off cliff.. win four games in a row...crickets... score 5 straight goals at MSG....nothing... I have no problem getting on the coach... but it can't be one sided 100 percent of the time"

I don't think anyone is jumping off a cliff. Generally speaking when a coach practices with line combos those are usually the ones you see in the following game.

- Cptmjl



Actually Dan, plenty of people found exception with Cappy in the first 4 games.
It wasnt crickets. We were all just drunk on beating Canes b2b. Our terrible PK almost let them back into game 2. It let SJ back into game 3 an I was pissed to see JT's line on the ice for last minute of Rangers game. It shows that he is not fully capable of operating in the environment of NHL coaching. And anyone who doesnt feel nervous with this team in 3rd periods with a 2-goal lead, raise your hand. I find myself wondering, "whats cappy gonna do to screwthis game up?" His player decisions/rationale is hard to grasp, which is why I suspect Garth has had his hand up the back of Cappy all along, manipulating the dummy.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 21 @ 12:45 PM ET
I would have thought soundtigers would have been better than 3-2 in the season given all the weapons they have.

As for isles, they very much is must win game b/c a winning team needs to show resilience after a tough loss. B/c its be real here, if isles lost tonight and then dropped another vs Boston. while 4-3 is fine, TSN panel would be shredding us and calling us pretenders again.

Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 21 @ 12:48 PM ET
Our PK still stinks. Also we have tendency to have sleeping period too.

Problem in both instance is not that we are bad, its we just spend way too much time being trapped in our zone flat footed in a box.

we have guys that can skate. attack the freaking puck. Cappy frustrates the hell out of me. These are NHLers not high school kids.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 21 @ 12:49 PM ET
I would have thought soundtigers would have been better than 3-2 in the season given all the weapons they have.

As for isles, they very much is must win game b/c a winning team needs to show resilience after a tough loss. B/c its be real here, if isles lost tonight and then dropped another vs Boston. while 4-3 is fine, TSN panel would be shredding us and calling us pretenders again.

- Spartiarti


What weapons are you talking about? Take away Lee and they have no offense. Very young D down there, not sure what you're expecting out of them
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
I would have thought soundtigers would have been better than 3-2 in the season given all the weapons they have.

As for isles, they very much is must win game b/c a winning team needs to show resilience after a tough loss. B/c its be real here, if isles lost tonight and then dropped another vs Boston. while 4-3 is fine, TSN panel would be shredding us and calling us pretenders again.

- Spartiarti



and isnt that what matters most?

seriously...they can lose the next 6 games and itll be ok.

#kneejerk
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 21 @ 12:55 PM ET
What weapons are you talking about? Take away Lee and they have no offense. Very young D down there, not sure what you're expecting out of them
- Vukota

No I heard they have a cache of Javelin missiles, AR-15's and thermal grenades.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 21 @ 12:58 PM ET
I agree that Strome has been a bit shaky in his own end, especially on break outs. He tends to throw the puck away whenever he feels pressure. Offensively, he has great vision but not on the D side yet.
- brodydog29


His back checking is impressive. Have noticed him steal pucks more than a few times, in only 5 games. His pros outweigh his cons by a good amount. Kids gonna be fine-just needs to play.
IslesFan24
New York Islanders
Location: Richmond, VA
Joined: 10.23.2013

Oct 21 @ 1:00 PM ET
Looks like a good turnout tonight, only about 500 tickets listed that are left on StubHub...main word "listed"
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 21 @ 1:07 PM ET
What weapons are you talking about? Take away Lee and they have no offense. Very young D down there, not sure what you're expecting out of them
- Vukota


good point upfront. but Colberg should be standing out. also Persson should be much better.

Our D might be Young but its super talented. Pollack, Reinhart, Pelech should be tearing it up on back line.

than again they do have 4goal Poulin in net.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
good point upfront. but Colberg should be standing out. also Persson should be much better.

Our D might be Young but its super talented. Pollack, Reinhart, Pelech should be tearing it up on back line.

than again they do have 4goal Poulin in net.

- Spartiarti

Beginning to see a pattern here.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 21 @ 1:23 PM ET
good point upfront. but Colberg should be standing out. also Persson should be much better.

Our D might be Young but its super talented. Pollack, Reinhart, Pelech should be tearing it up on back line.

than again they do have 4goal Poulin in net.

- Spartiarti




XxNYIxX
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 21 @ 2:05 PM ET
good point upfront. but Colberg should be standing out. also Persson should be much better.

Our D might be Young but its super talented. Pollack, Reinhart, Pelech should be tearing it up on back line.

than again they do have 4goal Poulin in net.

- Spartiarti

The three defenseman you named have, including this year, a whopping 17 professional games between them. They should not be tearing anything up.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 21 @ 2:12 PM ET
The three defenseman you named have, including this year, a whopping 17 professional games between them. They should not be tearing anything up.
- eichiefs9


Yes and two of them didn't look one bit out of place in NHL. And they competing against a league full of Colin Macdonalds. Along with Mayfield we should one of best defenses in AHL.

Btw, I look at Bernier and Reimers GAA, there isn't any reason why we should pulverize TORONTO tonight. Clutterbuck or Martin should hit Lopul as hard as he can. Then you need to just neutralize the 1st line and Kadri on 2nd line,
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 21 @ 2:15 PM ET
Yes and two of them didn't look one bit out of place in NHL. And they competing against a league full of Colin Macdonalds. Along with Mayfield we should one of best defenses in AHL.

Btw, I look at Bernier and Reimers GAA, there isn't any reason why we should pulverize TORONTO tonight. Clutterbuck or Martin should hit Lopul as hard as he can. Then you need to just neutralize the 1st line and Kadri on 2nd line,

- Spartiarti

What? Only one of them has played in the NHL and he played 3 games, and yes...he did look out of place. Which is fine, for the record.

Expected-talent or not, there is always an adjustment to the speed of a pro game..regardless of skill. A blueline that has 3/4 of it's top four defenseman as rookies, and the fourth a second-year player, should not be expected to be one of the best defenses in any league.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Oct 21 @ 2:16 PM ET
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