Dan Petriw
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.03.2006
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Absolutely agree with this. Lee is JUST what that top line needs. Someone who goes to the net like a bull. - Mancalledsting
you can make the case for Brock, but if that second line is clicking i don't want to upset it |
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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders |
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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for the record, if it was my call, i'd send MacDonald to b'port, call up Lee and put him on the top line to see what we have there - Dan Petriw
hes already been sent to philly...get with the times!!! |
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Dan Petriw
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.03.2006
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hes already been sent to philly...get with the times!!! - LetsGoIsles
MY BAD |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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So if you were going to take a Isle D in the HB pool, would it be Boychuk or Hamonic?
Would you take either this week |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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hes already been sent to philly...get with the times!!! - LetsGoIsles
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brodydog29
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 09.24.2011
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you can make the case for Brock, but if that second line is clicking i don't want to upset it - Dan Petriw
Cappy doesn't want to take Nelson out of the C role, so I don't even think this is an option right now. |
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Dedshark
New York Islanders |
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Location: Amityville, NY Joined: 04.01.2008
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Cappy doesn't want to take Nelson out of the C role, so I don't even think this is an option right now. - brodydog29
which is completely understandable. He looks like a perfect fit playing the 2C behind jt.
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Spartiarti
New York Islanders |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 09.04.2008
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Did Echief really seriously say with 5 points in 5 games strome has not looked that good? Are you insane. I could dream our team was full of a point a game players
Agree in Colin Mac. He didn't look bad but he brings nothing.
4th line has Cizikas being incredible and playing no one.
Nelson deserves to center his own line. I agree there.
Let's not get all bent out of shape we Lost last game bc of pp. that's it. Win tomorrow and all is forgotten.
If grabo on ir, lee deserves call up. This is bs. |
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Dedshark
New York Islanders |
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Location: Amityville, NY Joined: 04.01.2008
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Vukota
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.29.2007
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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"In ownership news, Sports Illustrated is reporting that Barclays Center majority owner, Bruce Ratner, is selling his share of the arena. What does this mean for the Islanders? New owners, Jonathan Ledecky and Scott Malkin, have been linked as possible suitors to become majority owners of the building. If this becomes a reality, it would really cement the Islanders future in Brooklyn."
I have a different take on this. The Isles' lease is with the Ratner entity that owns the Barclays Center, right?. If Ratner continues to control the Barclays Center, there would be little chance of the Isles getting out of their lease at a reasonable price. On the other hand, if the Isles' new owners control the Barclays Center, then they control both ends of the same lease. In other words, if it becomes economically feasible for whatever reason (NVMC gets renovated, e.g.), then the Isles can break their lease with Barclays with no consequences. (Presumably, the Barclays can still turn a profit without the Isles.)
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Vukota
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.29.2007
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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David_Volek
New York Islanders |
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Location: Trotzville, NY Joined: 05.01.2013
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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"In ownership news, Sports Illustrated is reporting that Barclays Center majority owner, Bruce Ratner, is selling his share of the arena. What does this mean for the Islanders? New owners, Jonathan Ledecky and Scott Malkin, have been linked as possible suitors to become majority owners of the building. If this becomes a reality, it would really cement the Islanders future in Brooklyn."
I have a different take on this. The Isles' lease is with the Ratner entity that owns the Barclays Center, right?. If Ratner continues to control the Barclays Center, there would be little chance of the Isles getting out of their lease at a reasonable price. On the other hand, if the Isles' new owners control the Barclays Center, then they control both ends of the same lease. In other words, if it becomes economically feasible for whatever reason (NVMC gets renovated, e.g.), then the Isles can break their lease with Barclays with no consequences. (Presumably, the Barclays can still turn a profit without the Isles.) - JohnScammo seriously? you think the isles new owners would buy into brooklyn to move the team out of it? theyre going to spend major dollars marketing the team in brooklyn and then throw that away? dude...you're on crack. that makes no business sense period.
lets think about this. The Isles would own their building. So instead of playing in a building they own, that they blow tons of money on to build up the fan base in brooklyn to bring in crowds, we'll drop all of that to move back to a building to fans we left, and play there and pay the owner of that building to play there, while the building we own now loses 41 home games a year.
said no good business man - ever. |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Ur Not Me
New York Islanders |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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who on the leafs can martin not handle? - Isles_since_6
Leafs waived there goons..... so nothing really to worry about |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Leafs waived there goons..... so nothing really to worry about - Ur Not Me
exactly |
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Vukota
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.29.2007
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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seriously? you think the isles new owners would buy into brooklyn to move the team out of it? theyre going to spend major dollars marketing the team in brooklyn and then throw that away? dude...you're on crack. that makes no business sense period.
lets think about this. The Isles would own their building. So instead of playing in a building they own, that they blow tons of money on to build up the fan base in brooklyn to bring in crowds, we'll drop all of that to move back to a building to fans we left, and play there and pay the owner of that building to play there, while the building we own now loses 41 home games a year.
said no good business man - ever. - Isles_since_6
You misunderstood my post. I wasn't saying that they were purchasing Barclays in order to break the lease and move back to NVMC. My point was simply that it goes from being a near impossibility to a possibility if everything else falls into place. As long as Ratner controls Barclays, the Isles are going nowhere. Breaking the lease would be way too expensive. However, if the Isles' new owners control Barclays, then anything can happen. I agree that it is still unlikely, but it now becomes a possibility.
So if the Isles fail to draw crowds to Barclays (unlikely IMO), and Nassau County renovates NVMC, and the LIRR rehabilitates the old freight spur along Stewart Avenue so that it can transport fans to games......... etc....
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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I would love to see Boulton over Mcdonald but you're thinking of the old leafs that had Mclaren and Orr. Those guys are in the minors. Like it was said earlier Martin would be fine against anybody the leafs have now. If orr was still on the team Boulton would be playing - Vukota
I stand corrected. I did not know that. On the other hand, Martin apparently doesn't scare anyone on the Sharks or Penguins, because both teams took liberties with the Isles.
So the Isles are keeping Boulton and Carkner on the roster just for games against the Bruins and Flyers??? |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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You misunderstood my post. I wasn't saying that they were purchasing Barclays in order to break the lease and move back to NVMC. My point was simply that it goes from being a near impossibility to a possibility if everything else falls into place. As long as Ratner controls Barclays, the Isles are going nowhere. Breaking the lease would be way too expensive. However, if the Isles' new owners control Barclays, then anything can happen. I agree that it is still unlikely, but it now becomes a possibility.
So if the Isles fail to draw crowds to Barclays (unlikely IMO), and Nassau County renovates NVMC, and the LIRR rehabilitates the old freight spur along Stewart Avenue so that it can transport fans to games......... etc.... - JohnScammo
Oh I understood it perfectly, so tell me how financially, buying the building the team you own and moving them out of it would make any business sense at all? They'd be buying the building to get all of the revenue instead of the guaranteed amount. There's no good reason to move them out of the building if they buy the building. Your reasoning misses that fact. They move back to the old building and they're back to being a tenant with no control of the building and less revenue... How in the world would that make sense?
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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I stand corrected. I did not know that. On the other hand, Martin apparently doesn't scare anyone on the Sharks or Penguins, because both teams took liberties with the Isles.
So the Isles are keeping Boulton and Carkner on the roster just for games against the Bruins and Flyers??? - JohnScammo
When was the last time a goon was actually a deterent and not a cheap staged fight? |
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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Oh I understood it perfectly, so tell me how financially, buying the building the team you own and moving them out of it would make any business sense at all? They'd be buying the building to get all of the revenue instead of the guaranteed amount. There's no good reason to move them out of the building if they buy the building. Your reasoning misses that fact. They move back to the old building and they're back to being a tenant with no control of the building and less revenue... How in the world would that make sense? - Isles_since_6
There are way too many variables to go into in detail. Does Barclays make a profit currently? I don't know, do you? How much additional profit would they make with the Isles playing there? What is the cost of converting the arena from basketball to hockey and back to basketball? I know it can be done--like at MSG--but I have no idea whether the expense is significant.
Furthermore, you presume to know the details of the hypothetical new lease at NVMC. How do you know what the Isles could negotiate in 2022?
The point of my original post was just that the purchase of the Barclays gives the new owners options that they don't currently have. Is everything likely to fall into place so that the Isles would ever move back to NVMC? Nope.
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders |
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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When was the last time a goon was actually a deterent and not a cheap staged fight? - Isles_since_6
Hard to say.... I keep thinking back to the great game against the Pens when the Isles gooned it up and beat the Pens 9 - 3. Admittedly, that was a few seasons ago. |
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