Nah, it's Scotch Romanian

Just kidding. It's neither of those. Both of those are from Fletch
- Giroux_Is_God

"Moon River..."



Babar just adds to the current theme.

I truly don't believe those trades are what hurt the Flyers though. It was losing Pronger. Losing him forced the Flyers into a series of bad decisions. They trade for Grossmann and Kubina and re-sign Grossmann and lose the available tagging space to re-sign Carle. I don't believe Grossmann is a bad player, but they don't make that move if Pronger is healthy.

The team then feels desperate for defense and trades JVR for Luke Schenn. Still desperate for defense and someone who can run the PP in case Timonen retires, the team trades for and signs Streit.

Desperate for a two-way defenseman at the trade deadline, the team trades for and signs Amac.

Pronger would be 40 this season. If not for the injury, I still feel he would be an effective player. Maybe not an all star level player anymore, but certainly way better than we have now.

Because of his injury, the Flyers lost Carle, JVR and six 2nd or 3rd round picks.
- PhillySportsGuy

IT'S ALL PRONGER'S FAULT!

I wonder what they'd do if Streit got hurt. Would they bring up Ghost or just allow Amac or MDZ to play the point on the PP.
- PhillySportsGuy

Decline the penalty?

IT'S ALL PRONGER'S FAULT!
- jmatchett383

Nope. Hockey god hates the Flyers

Nope. Hockey god hates the Flyers
- PhillySportsGuy

IT'S ALL GOD'S FAULT!

Juts kidding. About Pronger, not God. it is all his fault.

- Streit2ThePoint

Coots 2.0

IT'S ALL GOD'S FAULT!

Juts kidding. About Pronger, not God. it is all his fault.
- jmatchett383

Snider made a deal with Satan to beat the Bruins in 74. Now we are paying the price.

- Streit2ThePoint

Get used to it, Lurch.

- Streit2ThePoint

Should of knocked out all of his teeth. That mouth is a terrible mess.

- Streit2ThePoint

So apparently Canadian dentistry is just like British dentistry.

Should of knocked out all of his teeth. That mouth is a terrible mess.
- YzermanIsTheMan

He looks British.

Edit: DAMN YOU!

- Streit2ThePoint

The resemblance is uncanny....

Changing topics...

One of the big criticisms of the Flyers from national media is they constantly have been turning over their core guys. I guess this is somewhat old going back to the frick and frack and Bryz deals. Homer and now Hexy have seemed to turn it arounf and have avoided trading any of the young core.

I am happy about this, I think BSchenn and Couts especially are going to turn out to be very valuable players in the future.

Hearing the trade rumors about BSchenn makes me worried.
I have little doubt he will thrive with another team and we will regret it.

If Hexy wants to try and trade off the expensive vet contracts that is another thing, but will be harder to do.
- Marc D

This all stems from the Richards and Carter deals, IMO, and outside of them, the Flyers have not ever really gotten rid of their "core" guys in the way they are perceived as doing. They've traded supporting cast-type players like most teams but they have only traded core players that one time in recent memory. And Richards and Carter were replaced by a new core instantly i.e. Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds so I think this criticism comes from media members who aren't thinking things through.

He looks British.

Edit: DAMN YOU!
- jmatchett383

He looks British.

Edit: DAMN YOU!
- jmatchett383

This all stems from the Richards and Carter deals, IMO, and outside of them, the Flyers have not ever really gotten rid of their "core" guys in the way they are perceived as doing. They've traded supporting cast-type players like most teams but they have only traded core players that one time in recent memory. And Richards and Carter were replaced by a new core instantly i.e. Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds so I think this criticism comes from media members who aren't thinking things through.
- NickTheKid87

Well, they did trade Lindros.
And they gutted their core to get Lindros.
And they traded Upshall and bought out Bartulis.

"Moon River..."



Babar just adds to the current theme.
- tangent_man

I don't have any

Kids?

No. Elephant books

"Moon River..."



Babar just adds to the current theme.
- tangent_man

Is that 2 b's or one?

For me it depends on what is coming back the other way. After reading around a bit it seems the flyers are dealing from a position of strength here. They aren't shopping him, other teams are shopping for him.

If they can get back a young guy who is a top 4 right now, with the potential of being a top 2, I do a deal.....but let them come to us......
- MBFlyerfan

Sure but BSchenn getting a young top pair Dman will never happen.

JvR for Luke part two is what I am afraid of.

Snider made a deal with Satan to beat the Bruins in 74. Now we are paying the price.

- BiggE

"Please oh master, give me a beer-guzzling womanizing goalie who can stop the puck."

Get used to it, Lurch.
- tangent_man

I truly don't believe those trades are what hurt the Flyers though. It was losing Pronger. Losing him forced the Flyers into a series of bad decisions. They trade for Grossmann and Kubina and re-sign Grossmann and lose the available tagging space to re-sign Carle. I don't believe Grossmann is a bad player, but they don't make that move if Pronger is healthy.

The team then feels desperate for defense and trades JVR for Luke Schenn. Still desperate for defense and someone who can run the PP in case Timonen retires, the team trades for and signs Streit.

Desperate for a two-way defenseman at the trade deadline, the team trades for and signs Amac.

Pronger would be 40 this season. If not for the injury, I still feel he would be an effective player. Maybe not an all star level player anymore, but certainly way better than we have now.

Because of his injury, the Flyers lost Carle, JVR and six 2nd or 3rd round picks.
- PhillySportsGuy

This is one of the better posts I've read on this subject and it's absolutely true IMO. I've always said you need that championship level D to win..In the space of 4 years we've gone from Pronger Carle, Timonen Coburn Mesz and O'Donnell to what we see now. They actually needed two players to replace what Pronger brought to the table. It cause us to make a series of bad moves, and I agree Pronger would prob still be playing and well.

I don't have any

Kids?

No. Elephant books
- Giroux_Is_God

Another one of those movies I have to watch, no matter how much time has elapsed since it started.

Another one of those movies I have to watch, no matter how much time has elapsed since it started.
- tangent_man

Absolutely.