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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 1:44 PM ET
This year's Anton Stralman.

Woefully under-appreciated defenseman.

- bradleyc4


He can play on the PP too. I don't believe Stralman ever did that for the Rags.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 1:45 PM ET
He can play on the PP too. I don't believe Stralman ever did that for the Rags.
- PhillySportsGuy


MDZ hoggin' up all the PP.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 1:48 PM ET
MDZ hoggin' up all the PP.
- jmatchett383


Stralman played an average of 16 seconds of PP time per game last year for the Rags
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 1:48 PM ET
He can play on the PP too. I don't believe Stralman ever did that for the Rags.
- PhillySportsGuy


No, but I think it was more because he was behind McDonagh, Girardi and MDZ.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 20 @ 1:50 PM ET
Will GIroux get his number retired in Philadelphia
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 1:51 PM ET
No, but I think it was more because he was behind McDonagh, Girardi and MDZ.
- bradleyc4


He was also behind Moore and Staal. I think Stralman does have offensive ability. Could have been a righty/lefty type thing or maybe AV wanted to make sure he had a solid pairing to throw out after a failed PP.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 1:53 PM ET
No, but I think it was more because he was behind McDonagh, Girardi and MDZ.
- bradleyc4


Sekera led the Canes in PP time and PK time last year. Unless you include JML's 35 games.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 20 @ 1:53 PM ET
Will GIroux get his number retired in Philadelphia
- Winning


No, but he will get it retired in Nashville when he's dealt there for Shea Weber.

/that guy
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 1:54 PM ET
No, but he will get it retired in Nashville when he's dealt there for Shea Weber.

/that guy

- johndewar


I firmly believe Shea Weber will be a Flyer at some point in his career. It may not be until he's 38, but it will happen.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 1:57 PM ET
Will GIroux get his number retired in Philadelphia
- Winning


If he dies on the ice, yes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 1:57 PM ET
I firmly believe Shea Weber will be a Flyer at some point in his career. It may not be until he's 38, but it will happen.
- PhillySportsGuy


Agreed. Shea Weber for 7 1st round picks.

His cane for 2 1sts and a 2nd,
Fast_Eddie_1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Vorhees, NJ
Joined: 01.31.2012

Oct 20 @ 1:58 PM ET
Will GIroux get his number retired in Philadelphia
- Winning


Will you stop asking irrelevant questions?
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:00 PM ET
Will you stop asking irrelevant questions?
- Fast_Eddie_1


Does Bobby Clark like mozzarella sticks?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 2:00 PM ET
Will you stop asking irrelevant questions?
- Fast_Eddie_1


Will you be immortalized in a Motley Crue song?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 20 @ 2:01 PM ET
Will you be immortalized in a Motley Crue song?
- jmatchett383

Will Coots win the Conn Smythe
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:01 PM ET
Nemeth out till the playoffs courtesy of Umberger's skate.



That's the real question to me, not a 5 x 5 extension which I would happy to give him if he played as expected for several months.

- Feanor


Step 1: Injure opposing dmen
Step 2: Trade L Schenn and AMac to fill holes
Step 3: Draft picks and prospects!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 2:04 PM ET
Step 1: Injure opposing dmen
Step 2: Trade L Schenn and AMac to fill holes
Step 3: Draft picks and prospects!

- BiggE


hahaha

It's all coming together now.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:04 PM ET
Step 1: Injure opposing dmen
Step 2: Trade L Schenn and AMac to fill holes
Step 3: Draft picks and prospects!

- BiggE




Edit: And we wondered why Rinaldo played so much
Fast_Eddie_1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Vorhees, NJ
Joined: 01.31.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:08 PM ET
Does Bobby Clark like mozzarella sticks?
- WarriorHockey21



ahh...saw that coming
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:13 PM ET
Does Bobby Clark like mozzarella sticks?
- WarriorHockey21

More than he likes Panaccio and Carl Lindros for sure!!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 20 @ 2:14 PM ET
This year's Anton Stralman.

Woefully under-appreciated defenseman.

- bradleyc4


Also overrated due to coming off a career year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 2:14 PM ET
Gotta love the dude in the Kings blog saying, basciallt, it's okay for Voynov to beat his wife and send her to the hospital if she's a "crazy b!tch."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 2:15 PM ET
Also overrated due to coming off a career year.
- Tomahawk


Jeff Finger?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 20 @ 2:15 PM ET
From what I heard, the Flyers and Carle had a handshake agreement prior to the end of the season.

But once Wideman signed his huge deal with Calgary, Carle's agent reneged on the handshake and went to the highest bidder in free agency.

You can argue, however, that the Flyers shouldn't have put themselves in a position to have to wait to officially sign Carle until July 1st of that year.

- bradleyc4



Well first of all, I have not seen any evidence of a handshake agreement. Now that doesn't mean it didn't exist. I just haven't seen the evidence of it, and I doubt that there was one.

In the business of player contracts, there is no agreement until the contract is signed. And the agent works for the player. Not vice versa. If Carle wanted to accept a speculative handshake agreement with the Flyers, then all he has to do is tell the agent that's where he's going to sign. So knowing that, casts doubts on what you heard went down.

My speculation is that the Flyers decided to go and chase after Suter and put Carle on the back burner, which led to Carle pursuing other offers.

Tagging space can be worked around to create room. And I beleive that was just the reason floated to the media to cover that the negotiations with Carle weren't finalized.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 20 @ 2:16 PM ET
Well first of all, I have not seen any evidence of a handshake agreement. Now that doesn't mean it didn't exist. I just haven't seen the evidence of it, and I doubt that there was one.
- MJL


What tangible evidence besides FBI-level recordings could exist of a handshake agreement? I do believe that's why it's called a "handshake agreement" since nothing is made available to general public knowledge without inside leaks.
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