Which if Babcock is smart and we believe him to be......he wont be coming to town.
- Fakepartofme

I think it's possible that Babcock has no plans on leaving Detroit but using the Toronto hype to get himself max dollars.

Although the Sportsnet panel did come up with an interesting point. Would Holland actually pay Babcock more money then he is making? They pointed out that it would be an ackward situation if the coach makes more money then the GM.

I disagree.
They are professional players and adults...they shouldnt need the coach to get them ready.
Horrible excuse.
- Fakepartofme

What?? 100% disagreed. That makes no sense at all. So it's not up to the coach to let the team know who they are playing and how they will play them to try to beat them??? the coach does nothing but toss out lines??


nonsense.

I disagree.
They are professional players and adults...they shouldnt need the coach to get them ready.
Horrible excuse.
- Fakepartofme

Had this argument with the one who shall not be named. I'm not going there again.

Ah. Maybe Lupus to the top line? But he's not even really an upgrade defensively from JVR to be honest.
- AdamFrench

Unfortunately, the only line that does not get hemmed in is our third line. May need to do something radical and place one defensive forward on each line.

Problem is, teams know to throw the puck up Kessel's wing, he won't fight to get the puck so it a battle lost every time and the cycle continues, every coach has this drawn up on their board pre game.

Unfortunately, the only line that does not get hemmed in is our third line. May need to do something radical and place one defensive forward on each line.

Problem is, teams know to throw the puck up Kessel's wing, he won't fight to get the puck so it a battle lost every time and the cycle continues, every coach has this drawn up on their board pre game.
- LeafMan

Jack Eichel will fix it.

Jack Eichel will fix it.
- AdamFrench

What?? 100% disagreed. That makes no sense at all. So it's not up to the coach to let the team know who they are playing and how they will play them to try to beat them??? the coach does nothing but toss out lines??


nonsense.
- burn

agree with you. when we talk about a coach getting a team ready, it's not just about getting them ready to work and play hard. Babcock's players are always stressing the fact that they're always prepared for everything the opposition does and how there are no surprises. they talk about how detail-oriented he is and how well prepared he is and how well he prepares the team for each individual opponent. that's one reason he's always able to get the best out of his group of players.

have u ever been to the American deep south?
- Jurco_28

I live in Nashville these days. All the stereotypes of American.. well, Mrkkkan Southerners is true. Only good thing is, southern women are hotter on a FAR greater scale than the NE or midwest.

i think you'd see a pretty significant roster shakeup is Babcock came to town. and shakeup to the core i mean, not swapping out the bottom of the roster.
- scotch_tape

I agree.

I live in Nashville these days. All the stereotypes of American.. well, Mrkkkan Southerners is true. Only good thing is, southern women are hotter on a FAR greater scale than the NE or midwest.
- YzermanIsTheMan

Ya but then you got to get into the whole Jesus thing.

I think it's possible that Babcock has no plans on leaving Detroit but using the Toronto hype to get himself max dollars.

Although the Sportsnet panel did come up with an interesting point. Would Holland actually pay Babcock more money then he is making? They pointed out that it would be an ackward situation if the coach makes more money then the GM.
- sparky

holland doesnt pay babcock. Illitch does. he has the $, easily. who knows how much babcock is asking for . im guessing somewhere between 3.5 and 4 a season. I dont think Illitch has stepped in because the negotiations havent reached a critical point..yet.

Just as I wrote, the players on the ice, why would that mean the coach, I would have said, coaching decisions.
- LeafMan

My bad then, I took your "Terrible player decisions. "as poor of personnel on the ice..

Looks like he just got picked up by the cops after a cocaine bender.
- AdamFrench

My kind of tendy.

Ya but then you got to get into the whole Jesus thing.
- AdamFrench

No, no you don't. That's the best part of all. The really hot ones don't give a flying Xeno about religion, in fact, they're sluts. The hot girls that are into religion are usually psycho freaks anyway that would eat you alive in a relationship, so its all good.

Unfortunately, the only line that does not get hemmed in is our third line. May need to do something radical and place one defensive forward on each line.

Problem is, teams know to throw the puck up Kessel's wing, he won't fight to get the puck so it a battle lost every time and the cycle continues, every coach has this drawn up on their board pre game.
- LeafMan

Kessel is slowly becoming a replica of ovechkin. He scores points but not more points then other team scores because of his brutal defensive game. But the leafs won't trade him because he is their only legit "game changer" but you can't get him to play harder in his own zone. He's a coach killer

holland doesnt pay babcock. Illitch does. he has the $, easily. who knows how much babcock is asking for . im guessing somewhere between 3.5 and 4 a season. I dont think Illitch has stepped in because the negotiations havent reached a critical point..yet.
- Jurco_28

yeah the one thing i don't buy about the Babcock to Toronto rumours is the $$ aspect. Babcock can be the highest paid coach in any number of cities. if he goes to Toronto, it's for the challenge and prestige/attention, nothing more.

Jack Eichel will fix it.
- AdamFrench

You think Zacha has a chance to push for top 3 consideration?

Players like him usually dominate the OHL.

yeah the one thing i don't buy about the Babcock to Toronto rumours is the $$ aspect. Babcock can be the highest paid coach in any number of cities. if he goes to Toronto, it's for the challenge and prestige/attention, nothing more.
- scotch_tape

Lets hope he is up for a challenge..

Ah. Maybe Lupus to the top line? But he's not even really an upgrade defensively from JVR to be honest.
- AdamFrench

LEOOOOOOOOOO!

agree with you. when we talk about a coach getting a team ready, it's not just about getting them ready to work and play hard. Babcock's players are always stressing the fact that they're always prepared for everything the opposition does and how there are no surprises. they talk about how detail-oriented he is and how well prepared he is and how well he prepares the team for each individual opponent. that's one reason he's always able to get the best out of his group of players.
- scotch_tape

If not, I guess a coach like Vince Lombardi was just wasting his breath all those years.

Unfortunately, the only line that does not get hemmed in is our third line. May need to do something radical and place one defensive forward on each line.

Problem is, teams know to throw the puck up Kessel's wing, he won't fight to get the puck so it a battle lost every time and the cycle continues, every coach has this drawn up on their board pre game.
- LeafMan

With the Likes of Gardiner, Rielly and Kessel they should be trying to skate the puck out more (especially when the Kessel line in on). They clearly cannot win the board battles to get it out, so stop doing it. Skate it out, pass it pass it through the middle (risky as hell, but other way isn't working). Try something new.

What?? 100% disagreed. That makes no sense at all. So it's not up to the coach to let the team know who they are playing and how they will play them to try to beat them??? the coach does nothing but toss out lines??


nonsense.
- burn

Uh?
I didnt say. And that's not the discussion.

But yes the players should know who they are playing....they dont need the coach to tell them that.
The coaches will let the team know how they will play and what the game plan is - which Im sure Randy and staff are doing.
But its not solely up to the coach to get the players game ready. The players have a big responsbility in ensuring they know what they are doing, are mentality ready and are energized.

You think Zacha has a chance to push for top 3 consideration

Players like him usually dominate the OHL.
- BetterCallSaul

Nah, Nick Merkley or Matt Barzal in the WHL might push out Hanifin, but it seems unlikely. That top-3 are pretty set going in. Also Svechnikov in the Q

If not, I guess a coach like Vince Lombardi was just wasting his breath all those years.
- Woderwick

Football is so different, 1 bad play in hockey could mean the game. Football you walk back to the line of scrimmage 30 seconds later and can score a TD.

yeah the one thing i don't buy about the Babcock to Toronto rumours is the $$ aspect. Babcock can be the highest paid coach in any number of cities. if he goes to Toronto, it's for the challenge and prestige/attention, nothing more.
- scotch_tape

Babcock likes a challenge I think, he also likes potential.