So you don't believe that a veteran player who is a period of poor play, can turn that around and play better?
- MJL

There is a difference. I believe a guy like Lecavalier can have a better year because he struggled for one season but I do not believe he is going to improve to the point where he's a top line player. There are exemptions of course but a bad hockey player does not get improve drastically in his 30s

There is a difference. I believe a guy like Lecavalier can have a better year because he struggled for one season but I do not believe he is going to improve to the point where he's a top line player. There are exemptions of course but a bad hockey player does not get improve drastically in his 30s
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I agree.

ghost will land somewhere in between

book it pipe it lock it
- -davies-

so between a #1 and a #7?

We think they SHOULD be correctable, but sometimes, players are what they are. If you make the same "mistake" repeatedly, it is more likely that either you simply don't understand how to do it properly, don't have the physical ability to do it properly, or don't recognize what is happening so you can do it properly
- AllInForFlyers

That's the issue for the Flyers. It's not mistakes, everybody makes them. Zdeno Chara, Shea Weber, Bobby Orr, Mark Howe...they have all blown a coverage or two. The issue for the Flyers is, that it's rarely a coverage or two.

It's the same guys, making the same type of mistakes repeatedly. In the case of a guy like Luke Schenn, it may well just be a case of poor hockey smarts or feel for the game. In the case of a guy like Grossmann, it might be that he's physically lost a step or two and hasn't learned how to adjust the mental aspect of his game to match his current physical abilities.

Regardless, at some point in time, something that should be correctable becomes something that is simply outside a particular player's ability to fix and you factor in if that weakness is detrimental enough to justify replacing the player.

Sanheim with a power play goal his 5th overall for the year.

Sanheim with a power play goal his 5th overall for the year.


- ob18

Fugly uniforms, sweet goal

That's the issue for the Flyers. It's not mistakes, everybody makes them. Zdeno Chara, Shea Weber, Bobby Orr, Mark Howe...they have all blown a coverage or two. The issue for the Flyers is, that it's rarely a coverage or two.

It's the same guys, making the same type of mistakes repeatedly. In the case of a guy like Luke Schenn, it may well just be a case of poor hockey smarts or feel for the game. In the case of a guy like Grossmann, it might be that he's physically lost a step or two and hasn't learned how to adjust the mental aspect of his game to match his current physical abilities.

Regardless, at some point in time, something that should be correctable becomes something that is simply outside a particular player's ability to fix and you factor in if that weakness is detrimental enough to justify replacing the player.
- Jsaquella

I agree. Schenn has not been good and I would not be at all surprised if Shultz stayed in the lineup over him when Coburn returns. As for Coburn it is the same thing as you said. He is good on the coverage but he's weak on the puck and constantly turns the puck over. I feel as if he's #2 on the team because there is no better option not because he deserves it.

Fugly uniforms, sweet goal
- Jsaquella

Those are being worn for every home game in October & sold to donate the funds for breast cancer

Fugly uniforms, sweet goal
- Jsaquella

you realize theyre named after bret hart right?

Sanheim with a power play goal his 5th overall for the year.



- ob18

He is the #1. I'm convinced

Those are being worn for every home game in October & sold to donate the funds for breast cancer
- ob18

oh i figured they were the normal ones because of hart's ring gear

they should be, imo

oh i figured they were the normal ones because of hart's ring gear

they should be, imo
- Crimsoninja

I agree they should be, they do look better than the normal jersey

I agree. Schenn has not been good and I would not be at all surprised if Shultz stayed in the lineup over him when Coburn returns. As for Coburn it is the same thing as you said. He is good on the coverage but he's weak on the puck and constantly turns the puck over. I feel as if he's #2 on the team because there is no better option not because he deserves it.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Actually, comparatively speaking, Coburn doesn't turn the puck over that often. He was tied with Grossmann for turnovers last season and given the disparity in ice time, usage and amount of time handling the puck, his turnover numbers were acceptable.

He's not a legit number one, nor is he a cure all for the defense. But he is their best defensive player, and he's a very capable player. I wouldn't trade him unless the return was fairly significant, because he's a guy they will almost certainly need to replace the second he walks out the door.

you realize theyre named after bret hart right?
- Crimsoninja

Yep. Still fugly.

I think any trade talk right now is just bluster. There's no reason for the Flyers or many other teams to be doing anything. We are 5 games in. The Flyers need to give B Schenn on the wing until at least right up to the deadline if not the entire year. The only player I could see them trading at the drop of a hat would be Vinny if he happens to get hot.

Sanheim scores again the primary assist from his twin brother

Sanheim scores again the primary assist from his twin brother


- ob18

Wait. I never noticed it, but do they both have T. SANHEIM on their jerseys?

Wait. I never noticed it, but do they both have T. SANHEIM on their jerseys?
- Jsaquella

lol

you realize theyre named after bret hart right?
- Crimsoninja

Can Sanheim play all his games with a leather jacket and sunglasses then?

Wait. I never noticed it, but do they both have T. SANHEIM on their jerseys?
- Jsaquella

It's to confuse you

It's to confuse you
- ob18

No, it's just stupid. They have these things called "numbers" on the uniform to identify them

Sanheim scores again the primary assist from his twin brother


- ob18

unreal

Can Sanheim play all his games with a leather jacket and sunglasses then?
- hereticpride

If he trains in Stu Hart's dungeon in the summer, there is nothing he can't do.

unreal
- Just5

He's been pretty good so far

never did fantasy hockey before. doing a draft now. its interesting, but frustrating in some ways.