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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:40 AM ET
He's also willing to donate 50% of his royalties from sales of John Lennon's Imagine and all his losing scratch off lottery tickets
- Jsaquella


hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:41 AM ET
How can a 6'8 220 giraffe have that much trouble with a 5'11 180 guy in front of the net?
- Tomahawk

uhhh, the guy with the indian.......sorry, native american on his sweater is allowed to spear him in the balls??
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 10:41 AM ET
Yep, physical, gritty vet with a rep as a hard worker? Guy made an honest mistake.

Smallish, younger guy who is more offensively inclined does same thing? Too soft and inconsistent

- Jsaquella


Yup, the old Berube double standard
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 10:41 AM ET
uhhh, the guy with the indian.......sorry, native american on his sweater is allowed to spear him in the balls??
- hogweed


Why is everyone fascinated with testes today??
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 16 @ 10:44 AM ET
Seems like he's in the lineup just to be in the lineup.
- NickTheKid87


Maybe Berube doesn't want Akeson in the lineup, but isn't being given a choice.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 16 @ 10:44 AM ET

- Pixote Andolini


Completely justifiable
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
uhhh, the guy with the indian.......sorry, native american on his sweater is allowed to spear him in the balls??
- hogweed


Their logo is so racist.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
Maybe Berube doesn't want Akeson in the lineup, but isn't being given a choice.
- Tomahawk


Could be, but I doubt it. I just think he's too stubborn to see that a player with Akeson's build and skill set is really a bad choice for a 4th line.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
Maybe Berube doesn't want Akeson in the lineup, but isn't being given a choice.
- Tomahawk


Eh, I don't see why Hextall would care if Jones replaced him on the 4th line.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 16 @ 10:46 AM ET
uhhh, the guy with the indian.......sorry, native american on his sweater is allowed to spear him in the balls??
- hogweed



Talking before the spear... Shaw's got Myers practically backed into the crease there.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 10:46 AM ET
Their logo is so racist.
- Streit2ThePoint


Daniel Snyder says huh???
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:48 AM ET
Yep, physical, gritty vet with a rep as a hard worker? Guy made an honest mistake.

Smallish, younger guy who is more offensively inclined does same thing? Too soft and inconsistent

- Jsaquella

my opinion so far is that Chief is a great motivator and knows how to teach what it takes to stay in the league, he knows how to have a team that grinds...unfortunately those days have come and gone...he does not appear to have the knowldege on how to coach skill players and coach a team that needs to use speed...the plan appears to be to turtle and try to be defensive when the forward corps are mostly skill players and need to use speed to be successful...i just don't think the make up of the team matches Chief's coaching skill set at this point in his coaching career...Loved him as a player, I am luke warm at best with him as the longterm coach...not that there are better solutions right now, i just think the development of some of these young guys will suffer and we may end up losing them in trades "becasue they didn't pan out"
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 16 @ 10:50 AM ET
Maybe Berube doesn't want Akeson in the lineup, but isn't being given a choice.
- Tomahawk


Could this simply be a case of Berube not wanting to gift PP time to Akeson simply because of his AHL work?

We've said before that there's nothing wrong with guys earning their spot. It seems since Hextall's been in charge, you practically have to steal someone's job at this point or someone has to get hurt to advance.

Akeson definitely has some flaws, but I think Berube would even admit that Akeson will be a handy guy to have around if there are (more) injuries.

Rinaldo is not wrong....you DO have to start somewhere and that somewhere doesn't necessarily mean it's a top 6 role.

And FWIW, I think the 4th line has been pretty good this year, so far.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 16 @ 10:51 AM ET
my opinion so far is that Chief is a great motivator and knows how to teach what it takes to stay in the league, he knows how to have a team that grinds...unfortunately those days have come and gone...he does not appear to have the knowldege on how to coach skill players and coach a team that needs to use speed...the plan appears to be to turtle and try to be defensive when the forward corps are mostly skill players and need to use speed to be successful...i just don't think the make up of the team matches Chief's coaching skill set at this point in his coaching career...Loved him as a player, I am luke warm at best with him as the longterm coach...not that there are better solutions right now, i just think the development of some of these young guys will suffer and we may end up losing them in trades "becasue they didn't pan out"
- JW98FlyerFan


On the contrary....I think this roster plays precisely into Berube's strengths as a coach because I don't think this roster is all that good.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:52 AM ET
Their logo is so racist.
- Streit2ThePoint

i heard myers' testicles are racist and that was why shaw speared him (them?)
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 10:53 AM ET



- Tomahawk

Sounds like Jake does all kinds of stuff in practice shootouts, but then froze when it got to the game.

"Sometimes I think we are too tentative to go one on one, and you know, like me yesterday, I was practicing shootouts all summer and yesterday I go and I just just try to go five-hole but, I'm sure there were other moves I could have pulled out, some better moves, I didn't. We just gotta make sure we are confident when we go at it."
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
Daniel Snyder says huh???
- BiggE

What about the military vehicles and ordnance named after indigenous tribes/peoples/cultural items?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
Could this simply be a case of Berube not wanting to gift PP time to Akeson simply because of his AHL work?

We've said before that there's nothing wrong with guys earning their spot. It seems since Hextall's been in charge, you practically have to steal someone's job at this point or someone has to get hurt to advance.

Akeson definitely has some flaws, but I think Berube would even admit that Akeson will be a handy guy to have around if there are (more) injuries.

Rinaldo is not wrong....you DO have to start somewhere and that somewhere doesn't necessarily mean it's a top 6 role.

And FWIW, I think the 4th line has been pretty good this year, so far.

- johndewar


Chief started Akeson in the top-9 in the PO's and he acquitted himself well... now the slate is wiped completely clean? Doesn't make sense.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
All of a sudden AC/DC's Big Balls is stuck in my head.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
Talking before the spear... Shaw's got Myers practically backed into the crease there.
- Tomahawk



Not really. Shaw had just skated to the front of the net from behind.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 16 @ 10:58 AM ET
Sounds like Jake does all kinds of stuff in practice shootouts, but then froze when it got to the game.

"Sometimes I think we are too tentative to go one on one, and you know, like me yesterday, I was practicing shootouts all summer and yesterday I go and I just just try to go five-hole but, I'm sure there were other moves I could have pulled out, some better moves, I didn't. We just gotta make sure we are confident when we go at it."

- Feanor


I would rather they try some crazy move and fail spectacularly instead of just shooting it wide or in to the goalies chest.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Oct 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
Chief started Akeson in the top-9 in the PO's and he acquitted himself well... now the slate is wiped completely clean? Doesn't make sense.
- Tomahawk

in my opinion it smacks of "test".....lets see how this guy responds when we make him play a role he isn't suited for (or out of position, or or or)......happens WAY too much in this organ-ize-ation
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 16 @ 11:02 AM ET
I would rather they try some crazy move and fail spectacularly instead of just shooting it wide or in to the goalies chest.
- MBFlyerfan


Especially on Andersen, who's big in net, but doesn't move side to side particularly well.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 11:04 AM ET
I would rather they try some crazy move and fail spectacularly instead of just shooting it wide or in to the goalies chest.
- MBFlyerfan


I agree. Like Raffl on Bryz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPrdWgXFBl0
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 16 @ 11:05 AM ET
What about the military vehicles and ordnance named after indigenous tribes/peoples/cultural items?
- Pixote Andolini


"Your Thomashawk, sir..."


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