The problem I have with it is we don't really address the defense that much. Nothing against Yandle, but if he's in I'm dealing Schultz for a more rounded guy on the backend. Yandle just doesn't make this team harder to play against. Unless we outright abandon defense and play an offense only system.
- Lahey

This was my point on the original post. We need a shut down guy/pairing not another offensive dman

I don't think Hall is the problem.

They have other players they could trade for a center, how about Yaks?

I guess Hall may be the problem if people think the Oil should have drafter Seguin.
- hillbillydeluxe

He's just finding his beast-mode, and his value is low. I'd rather trade Ebs and throw in a bit extra than move Yak.

That's like the Colin Fraser argument except reversed. Hall is the nega-Fraser
- Morris

Hahaha....I just don't see Hall as a good leader i.e. Toews, Bergeron etc. More of a secondary type personality.

Not saying they should have drafted Seguin at all, but if you could move him for say a Bergeron type player would you do it?

If the Oilers win 2 in a row this place might implode.

Do you think they'd get full value for Hall? or that Hall wouldn't be the best player in that trade? Give me a semi-realistic scenario where trading Hall makes this team better, and keep in mind that every GM knows the Oil are bent over a barrel right now.
- BigDre

A good scenario is where MacT can get players to fill other positions that are needed. Sure we have a LW problem, but it'd be better if defense could start a rush and actually play defense.

He's just finding his beast-mode, and his value is low. I'd rather trade Ebs and throw in a bit extra than move Yak.
- BigDre

But is he elite yet?

The problem I have with it is we don't really address the defense that much. Nothing against Yandle, but if he's in I'm dealing Schultz for a more rounded guy on the backend. Yandle just doesn't make this team harder to play against. Unless we outright abandon defense and play an offense only system.
- Lahey

I don't think he makes us any easier to play against than with Petry in the lineup. That being said, if we're going to make a big trade and give up probably the best piece, the primary guy we get back should probably be a guy that is an excellent fit. I don't know that we'd need to change our system to compensate for Petry out, Yandle in, but the notion that we're looking for a more rounded player is well stated.

If there was a deal with Dubinsky/Tyutin deal floating around, I'd of course prefer that.

P.S. everytime I look at your posts I think I'm replying to OG

If we could pull off a Petry + Ebs for Yandle and Vermette deal, we could have this:

Hall-Nuge-Perron
Pouliot-Vermette-Yakupov
Draisaitl-Arcobello-Purcell
Hendricks-Gordon-Joensuu

Yandle-Fayne
Marincin-Schultz
Ference-Nikitin

Better? Worse? The same?
- Morris

I could live with that for the rest of the year. Would need to find a solid LW to play with Draisaitl next year though.

But is he elite yet?
- The-O-G

about as elite as Lander at this point

This was my point on the original post. We need a shut down guy/pairing not another offensive dman
- Oilfan19

I guess the question would become what can you get for Schultz? I take Yandle over him everyday of the week

about as elite as Lander at this point
- BigDre

Derp.

If the Oilers win 2 in a row this place might implode.
- robin_steele264

Already pre-planning the parade

A good scenario is where MacT can get players to fill other positions that are needed. Sure we have a LW problem, but it'd be better if defense could start a rush and actually play defense.
- Oilers4Life14

So your semi-realistic situation is for MacT to trade our best player for some players we need, and then fill the hole on LW he created.

I guess the question would become what can you get for Schultz? I take Yandle over him everyday of the week
- Lahey

Agreed. Schultz package for Staal?

Derp.
- Oilers4Life14

Still grappling with understanding humour and sarcasm eh?

Hahaha....I just don't see Hall as a good leader i.e. Toews, Bergeron etc. More of a secondary type personality.

Not saying they should have drafted Seguin at all, but if you could move him for say a Bergeron type player would you do it?
- The-O-G

Hall for Bergeron? It's a soft No...our centre situation is so dire, but with Nuge and Drai in the pipeline it seems like investing in a 3rd top 6 C is a little frivolous.

Nuge or Drai would be on the table if I'm the Oilers trying to keep Hall and add Bergeron though.

Hall for Bergeron? It's a soft No...our centre situation is so dire, but with Nuge and Drai in the pipeline it seems like investing in a 3rd top 6 C is a little frivolous.

Nuge or Drai would be on the table if I'm the Oilers trying to keep Hall and add Bergeron though.
- Morris

Bergeron would solve about 36 problems on this team alone.

Still grappling with understanding humour and sarcasm eh?
- BigDre

I know it was sarcasm jackass.

The majority of the time I get called stupid on this site is when I am being sarcastic..

I know it was sarcasm jackass.

The majority of the time I get called stupid on this site is when I am being sarcastic..
- Oilers4Life14

Or being an idiot like saying lets get rid of Hall

I guess the question would become what can you get for Schultz? I take Yandle over him everyday of the week
- Lahey

me too. If we could go back and sign Petry to a longterm deal and shop Schultz around, I'd do it.

I was just starting in the framework of values that management has seemed to set out. That being said, keeping Yandle-lite and adding Yandle may well be as you say overkill

If the Oilers win 2 in a row this place might implode.
- robin_steele264

So what you are saying the this place is made of bricks and the Oilers are the big bad wolf. Implosion unlikely

I know its not a good idea to change coaches every few months, but you cannot fire the team can you?

If you goofs are tanking, you shouldn't be throwing kids like Nurse/Marncin to the lions. They should be in the AHL playing competetive games. It won't do them any good to get blown out every night, they'll be branded losers.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Goofs? Lol
First off Jabroni, Marincin is in the AHL and Nurse is just getting his 9 game look before he goes back to Jr. Not sure if you're aware of the rules but as a 19 yr old CHL player he can't play in the AHL.

Goof.

Goofs? Lol
First off Jabroni, Marincin is in the AHL and Nurse is just getting his 9 game look before he goes back to Jr. Not sure if you're aware of the rules but as a 19 yr old CHL player he can't play in the AHL.

Goof.
- Jeropotato

BOOM Roasted

If we could pull off a Petry + Ebs for Yandle and Vermette deal, we could have this:

Hall-Nuge-Perron
Pouliot-Vermette-Yakupov
Draisaitl-Arcobello-Purcell
Hendricks-Gordon-Joensuu

Yandle-Fayne
Marincin-Schultz
Ference-Nikitin

Better? Worse? The same?
- Morris

Better IMO. Still a bit iffy on that 2nd pairing, but up front that looks solid.

Or being an idiot like saying lets get rid of Hall
- Oilfan19

Okay, so finishing Bottom 7th every year since 2010 is good? Dude (frank) off. We need something big here. Hall is a great player, but is he helping the team much? Nah. Does his points contribute to winning? Nah. The reason we want him is because he puts up 80 points a year. Does it contribute to success no.