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moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Oct 15 @ 3:06 PM ET
Like when Gretzky called Schultz when he was deciding between EDM/TOR/VAN?


Edit: I remember some Canucks fans wanted Linden to call him after that...

- Nucker101


Yes, more of that.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 15 @ 3:06 PM ET
RJ is available?? Hudler from Calgary? Gaustad sucks, Turris is not available as he is the only forward in ottawa now. Toffoli is another young guy which doesnt help us with the veteran thing.

Just because a guy plays Center and is good does not mean they are available...

- Oilfan19


Man, everyone's available. Especially for good draft picks. The only players not available to the oil are one's with NTC/NMC. You are underestimating the value of a high draft pick.

You have used the word 'sucks' a few times. Love to know your benchmark; current oiler players or the rest of the league? Regardless of potential, everyone on the oil suck at this moment so it's hard to understand how you could be so picky.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:07 PM ET
Vrbata
Miller
Engelland(lol)
Hiller
Pouliot
Nikitin
Fayne


Great list.

- Nucker101

Ya and we snagged Screvens and faiths..... it's not goaltending that's the problem... it's are not even AHL. ..... (frank) that... qhl defence. .... It kills us... it kills me...
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:08 PM ET
Man, everyone's available. Especially for good draft picks. The only players not available to the oil are one's with NTC/NMC. You are underestimating the value of a high draft pick.

You have used the word 'sucks' a few times. Love to know your benchmark; current oiler players or the rest of the league? Regardless of potential, everyone on the oil suck at this moment so it's hard to understand how you could be so picky.

- bloatedmosquito

If everyone is available then lets call up about crosby and Stammer.
Sorry, Gaustad is worse then Gordon so that would be a waste of a trade.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Oct 15 @ 3:08 PM ET
Just like how Ference is?
- Oilfan19


Ference couldn't hold Willie's jock strap.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:10 PM ET
Ference couldn't hold Willie's jock strap.
- moondawg

My point is that signing Mitchell doesnt help us on the ice, and it doesnt help us any more in the dressing room then having ference there.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 15 @ 3:11 PM ET
If everyone is available then lets call up about crosby and Stammer.
Sorry, Gaustad is worse then Gordon so that would be a waste of a trade.

- Oilfan19


Hall, Yaks, and a 2015 1st. That would get their attention. Everyone's available if they don't have a trade clause.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 3:12 PM ET
Just like how Ference is?
- Oilfan19



Even though he's overpaid, maybe adding another couple of guys like that could've helped. Who really knows though, it's really a big cluster (frank) when you think about it. Being the GM of this team is a tough job. Another season where they're out of it by January/February then I'd say it's time to move on from Eakins and make a change to the core with a big trade.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:13 PM ET
Hall, Yaks, and a 2015 1st. That would get their attention. Everyone's available if they don't have a trade clause.
- bloatedmosquito

And this makes our team a contender? Not to mention the lightning laugh at this.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
Even though he's overpaid, maybe adding another couple of guys like that could've helped. Who really knows though, it's really a big cluster (frank) when you think about it. Being the GM of this team is a tough job. Another season where they're out of it by January/February then I'd say it's time to move on from Eakins and make a change to the core with a big trade.
- Nucker101

Well who on that D do you take out to put in Mitchell? As bad as our D corps is I would rather all of them over mitchell
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
Man, everyone's available. Especially for good draft picks. The only players not available to the oil are one's with NTC/NMC. You are underestimating the value of a high draft pick.

You have used the word 'sucks' a few times. Love to know your benchmark; current oiler players or the rest of the league? Regardless of potential, everyone on the oil suck at this moment so it's hard to understand how you could be so picky.

- bloatedmosquito

If you're dangling (multiple) 1sts, the standard needs to be higher than "slightly better than what we have now".

Out of those who were available, I would have loved to get Hartnell, Ehrhoff, and Olli. But I have no indication whether management tried or didn't try to get them, or how hard, so I can't comment.

Out of those who could be available, I'd love to get Yandle, Bogosian, Wiznewski, Coburn, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Marcus Johanssson, and Vermette. But I have no indication whether management tried or didn't try to get them, or how hard, so I can't comment on that either.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Ya and we snagged Screvens and faiths..... it's not goaltending that's the problem... it's are not even AHL. ..... (frank) that... qhl defence. .... It kills us... it kills me...
- HouseArrest187


Fayne, Nikitin were supposed to at least help you guys depth-wise. Nikitin to me looks more like a solid bottom pairing d-man, similar to Ference. Fayne has always had strong possession stats, but is he one of those guys with better #fancystats than actual ability or is he simply going to be relied on to do more than he can on a bad defensive group?

I'd probably say the latter.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Well who on that D do you take out to put in Mitchell? As bad as our D corps is I would rather all of them over mitchell
- Oilfan19


I'd take him over Nikitin. Both solid defensive bottom pairing guys, but Willie definitely is a stronger leader IMO.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
I'd take him over Nikitin. Both solid defensive bottom pairing guys, but Willie definitely is a stronger leader IMO.
- Nucker101

Agreed on the leadership, I'll give you that. But Willie is a pylon now. Although Niki only passes to the opposing team..
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 15 @ 3:18 PM ET
Fayne, Nikitin were supposed to at least help you guys depth-wise. Nikitin to me looks more like a solid bottom pairing d-man, similar to Ference. Fayne has always had strong possession stats, but is he one of those guys with better #fancystats than actual ability or is he simply going to be relied on to do more than he can on a bad defensive group?

I'd probably say the latter.

- Nucker101

I'd say it's definitely the latter. Also, we're not doing our Dcore any favours by overplaying Brad Hunt, keeping Marincin in the minors and giving up on Petry.

Schultz, Petry, Fayne and Marincin should be top 4 dmen in Edmonton. Nikitin and Ference should be a multifaceted bottom pairing. It's not a fantastic Dcore, but it'd be better than how everyone's being deployed now.
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Oct 15 @ 3:18 PM ET
Embrace the suck?

I don't think Oiler fans want anymore of the losing,
to be fair.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Oct 15 @ 3:18 PM ET
OK on Stuart but the other three didn't get your attention?

If you want a centre then go out and get Ryan Johansen, Tyler Toffoli, Jiri Hudler, Paul Gaustad, Kyle Turris, etc, etc…

Lots available but you got to pay a price. MacT covets draft picks and I don't know why.

- bloatedmosquito

MacT just took over the team last year.
Peterg
Location: Canada, NS
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 15 @ 3:19 PM ET
Hunt needs to go, on Toffoli's SHG last night, Yak backchecks hard to cover his man and Hunt is just looking hilarious reaching around for the puck against Toffoli.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 15 @ 3:19 PM ET
Eberle + Petry + Lander <---> Yandle + Vermette. Thoughts?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:19 PM ET
I'd say it's definitely the latter. Also, we're not doing our Dcore any favours by overplaying Brad Hunt, keeping Marincin in the minors and giving up on Petry.

Schultz, Petry, Fayne and Marincin should be top 4 dmen in Edmonton. Nikitin and Ference should be a multifaceted bottom pairing. It's not a fantastic Dcore, but it'd be better than how everyone's being deployed now.

- Morris

That Marincin, Petry pairing needs to be reunited ASAP
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Oct 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
Hunt needs to go, on Toffoli's SHG last night, Yak backchecks hard to cover his man and Hunt is just looking hilarious reaching around for the puck against Toffoli.
- Peterg

agreed. Couldn't believe people were slagging Yakupov for "standing around" when Hunt needs to box out his guys there.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
Eberle + Petry + Lander <---> Yandle + Vermette. Thoughts?
- Morris

Need more of a Shut down dman/pairing.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 3:20 PM ET
I'd say it's definitely the latter. Also, we're not doing our Dcore any favours by overplaying Brad Hunt, keeping Marincin in the minors and giving up on Petry.

Schultz, Petry, Fayne and Marincin should be top 4 dmen in Edmonton. Nikitin and Ference should be a multifaceted bottom pairing. It's not a fantastic Dcore, but it'd be better than how everyone's being deployed now.

- Morris



Oh, I totally agree. Eakins/management is making this way harder than it needs to be.

That group of 6 would be a lot more solid.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Oct 15 @ 3:21 PM ET
My point is that signing Mitchell doesnt help us on the ice, and it doesnt help us any more in the dressing room then having ference there.
- Oilfan19


Ference is a nice guy, but before the Bruins won that cup, would you have targeted him as your leader for your team going forward. And wasn't he the 4th best Dmen on that team, behind Seidenburg, Boychuck and Chara?

I think just think W. Mitchell is one of those guys that can calm a team down, and really show them the way.

No offense to Ference I just see him as this happy go lucky hippie guy, not the guy I'd want leading me into battle.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Oct 15 @ 3:22 PM ET
Oh, I totally agree. Eakins/management is making this way harder than it needs to be.

That group of 6 would be a lot more solid.

- Nucker101

Eakins/management have been doing this for forever
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