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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 15 @ 4:11 PM ET
It does.

$$$

- jmatchett383


Visnovsky probably could've gotten the same money elsewhere. Nabokov as well. A bird in hand may have come into play.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:11 PM ET
JT has a lotttt to do with it though.

then you have the young pieces in strome, reinhardt, de haan, hamonic

- stayinthefnnet


It's pretty much top on down... not sure I see many clear-cut advantages in talent-level or depth in the Flyers' favor right now, aside from Wayne Simmonds.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
my coworker said he's watched a few flyers games and he knows the problem is the coach because the players are talented but just aren't playing as a team
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
All I've heard is that EDM is resting him because he had a short camp due to shoulder problems.

If he's available, you gotta kick the tires.

- tangent_man


Yup. Agreed. He's got good size, fairly mobile and good at moving the puck up and out of the zone. He's a good comparison for MacDonald, actually
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:13 PM ET
It's pretty much top on down... not sure I see many clear-cut advantages in talent-level or depth in the Flyers' favor right now, aside from Wayne Simmonds.
- Tomahawk

better record this year, flyers or islanders? that is a toss up for me. i could see it either way.

heading into the future, you never know about prospects, but the Isles appear to have the edge. and for as much as i respect Giroux, ill take JT as a centerpiece.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 15 @ 4:14 PM ET
i want some
- stayinthefnnet


Isn't that why you're going to lawyer learning?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 15 @ 4:15 PM ET
my coworker said he's watched a few flyers games and he knows the problem is the coach because the players are talented but just aren't playing as a team
- 2Real


All Coburn's fault.
And Hartnell's.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:15 PM ET
better record this year, flyers or islanders? that is a toss up for me. i could see it either way.

heading into the future, you never know about prospects, but the Isles appear to have the edge. and for as much as i respect Giroux, ill take JT as a centerpiece.

- stayinthefnnet



isle 3-0
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:15 PM ET
my coworker said he's watched a few flyers games and he knows the problem is the coach because the players are talented but just aren't playing as a team
- 2Real


Clearly hearsay!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
better record this year, flyers or islanders? that is a toss up for me. i could see it either way.

heading into the future, you never know about prospects, but the Isles appear to have the edge. and for as much as i respect Giroux, ill take JT as a centerpiece.

- stayinthefnnet


...and you were doing so well...
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
All Coburn's fault.
And Hartnell's.

- jmatchett383



you forgot luke and brayden
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
Isn't that why you're going to lawyer learning?
- jmatchett383


cant make the market return to something it no longer is, unfortunately.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
isle 3-0
- mydoglicks

theyve had issues with inconsistency.

but with halak at least providing some stability, and the defensive additions, along with grabovski, they could make some noise.

they worry me.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
better record this year, flyers or islanders? that is a toss up for me. i could see it either way.

heading into the future, you never know about prospects, but the Isles appear to have the edge. and for as much as i respect Giroux, ill take JT as a centerpiece.

- stayinthefnnet


Isles. I was singing their praises all summer, and that was before the recent patch job on D.

Soup to nuts, I think they've built/bumbled themselves a pretty decent team, with a very balanced/flexible cap structure moving forward.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 15 @ 4:18 PM ET
during the day or at night?

i believe they are pretty nocturnal

- stayinthefnnet

It was around 8pm. I coach soccer and it was as practice was winding down.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:19 PM ET
Isles. I was singing their praises all summer, and that was before the recent patch job on D.

Soup to nuts, I think they've built/bumbled themselves a pretty decent team, and they have a very balanced/flexible cap structure moving forward.

- Tomahawk


they just strike me as a team that really hasnt learned how to win yet. and that culture/stigma can be hard to shake. i think this is the year they make big strides though.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 4:19 PM ET
Isles. I was singing their praises all summer, and that was before the recent patch job on D.

Soup to nuts, I think they've built/bumbled themselves a pretty decent team, with a very balanced/flexible cap structure moving forward.

- Tomahawk


Prior to the defense additions, I said coin flip. Now, I lean Isles.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 15 @ 4:19 PM ET
I just threw up a little bit when I read that MacDaddy was here for 6 years.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
It was around 8pm. I coach soccer and it was as practice was winding down.
- jak521


a neat encounter
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
...and you were doing so well...
- jmatchett383

ive failed you for the last time........

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
they just strike me as a team that really hasnt learned how to win yet. and that culture/stigma can be hard to shake. i think this is the year they make big strides though.
- stayinthefnnet


Well... it's not like the Pens and Flyers have really learned how to win yet either... well I guess the Pens learned but then forgot.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:21 PM ET
I just threw up a little bit when I read that MacDaddy was here for 6 years.
- jak521


yeah we got him locked up long term baby
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
yeah we got him locked up long term baby
- mydoglicks

Thank god.


EDIT: In all seriousness, I totally forgot how long the term was.. thought it was like 3 years like the Coburn one..
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:26 PM ET
Well... it's not like the Pens and Flyers have really learned how to win yet either... well I guess the Pens learned but then forgot.
- Tomahawk


ugh. back on that memory trail buddy.

but still, you know what i mean. its not as if either team has been a perennial bottom dweller for the past decade. when they make it to the playoffs, there is no oh well were just pretty happy to be here sentiment.

columbus and NYI still have that. but they have pretty nice futures
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 15 @ 4:27 PM ET
I just threw up a little bit when I read that MacDaddy was here for 6 years.
- jak521

he's a stud
don't worry

he makes guys like LSchenn and Schultz look like legit NHL Dmen when paired with them
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