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section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Oct 12 @ 8:07 AM ET
Personally, I will not root for them to lose, I just can't make it happen. But here are my top five ways we could beat out BUF or FLD for top choice in this years draft:
1. G goes down for a extended period
2. Coburn is actually hurt more then expected
3. Mason goes down and Razor plays more like last year
4. Shultz continues to be a top pair D man for the team
5. The low confidence rolls out of control like last year
Extra 6. Hexy stays the course of patience and it is actually his plan all along- evil genius

- coffee junkie

#5 is my biggest fear. Hexy walked in and told Snyder...look. Paul effed up the cap. I can't fix this poope overnight. We have to get out of contract/cap hell. We are gonna suck for at least one season, if not two. I'm not gonna rush the rookies. We are going to let these contracts run there course and if we are extremely lucky, we can dump a few at the TDL. If you can't take those expectations, I'm not taking the job of fixing this train wreck.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:08 AM ET
Tank this year and throw a whole boatload of cash at Babcock next year.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:16 AM ET
What defender could the Flyers swap for B schenn and not get hosed.
consig
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: madison, CT
Joined: 06.26.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:20 AM ET
Can you imagine a line up close to this:

unk-giroux-vor
unk-mcdavid-simmonds
read-schenn-unk
unk-laughton-rinaldo

morin-coby
ghost-mcdonald
haag-schenn


The unk's....well I dont know who will go in those positions. LOoking for a cleansingof contracts including pronger,kimmo,umberger,vinny,streit,gromman, MDZ . Every team needs a whipping boy or two so I kept schenn and mcdonald .

cup win 2017-2018

- jmdodgeser4

Why keep B Schenn over Couts? Would have like to see him traded for a top young d man or a scoring winger this summer if they couldn't get takers for VLC
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:22 AM ET
If you guys think will really get Macdavid. Prepared to be disappointed.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 12 @ 9:23 AM ET
If you guys think will really get Macdavid. Prepared to be disappointed.
- Winning


Yeah, we couldn't even get Patrick Kane--do you really think the league is going to hand us McDavid?
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Oct 12 @ 9:23 AM ET
What defender could the Flyers swap for B schenn and not get hosed.
- Winning



Somebody please!

How about Tyler Myers ... You would have to include more than B Schenn, but Myers is on the market according to reports on Hockey Night In Canada
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:24 AM ET
LAck of 60 minute effort is in the players. This has been happening for years now, it is so damn frustrating. Up 3-0 in your own building and they can't nail it down, that is just sad.
- LJF


They didn't just fold in the third, they spent a ton of time in their own end in the first period, too. The Habs simply took over in the third.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 12 @ 9:24 AM ET
If you guys think will really get Macdavid. Prepared to be disappointed.
- Winning


We are accustomed to dissapointment.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:24 AM ET
Somebody please!

How about Tyler Myers ... You would have to include more than B Schenn, but Myers is on the market according to reports on Hockey Night In Canada

- 3flyerkids


According to the press in Detroit, the asking price for Detroit included Anthony Mantha.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 12 @ 9:25 AM ET
Why keep B Schenn over Couts? Would have like to see him traded for a top young d man or a scoring winger this summer if they couldn't get takers for VLC
- consig


opppss. forgot about him. Sure then schenn for anohter 1st rounder this year or an impact dman or maybe e Kane.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 12 @ 9:26 AM ET
opppss. forgot about him. Sure then schenn for anohter 1st rounder this year or an impact dman or maybe e Kane.
- jmdodgeser4


Evander Kane would get very very old here. He has an attitude problem.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:27 AM ET
According to the press in Detroit, the asking price for Detroit included Anthony Mantha.
- Jsaquella

Bad feeling Tyler Myers is turning into a bigger disappointment than Luke schenn
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
Bad feeling Tyler Myers is turning into a bigger disappointment than Luke schenn
- Winning


change of team might help? Im sure his value isnt very high
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:31 AM ET
#5 is my biggest fear. Hexy walked in and told Snyder...look. Paul effed up the cap. I can't fix this poope overnight. We have to get out of contract/cap hell. We are gonna suck for at least one season, if not two. I'm not gonna rush the rookies. We are going to let these contracts run there course and if we are extremely lucky, we can dump a few at the TDL. If you can't take those expectations, I'm not taking the job of fixing this train wreck.
- section32


Last summer, Hextall didn't have a ton of resources. The cap didn't go up as much as it could have(the NHLPA refused to kick in the 5% escalator). He had a couple guys he probably would have loved to move coming off bad seasons that, combined with their contracts, made them difficult, if not impossible to trade.

I do wonder if we see more deals like Hartnell, where they move a bad contract out for a less odious one even if the deal isn't exactly even in terms of on ice play right now.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 12 @ 9:33 AM ET
They didn't just fold in the third, they spent a ton of time in their own end in the first period, too. The Habs simply took over in the third.
- Jsaquella



Just watched the highlights.. I am really glad that I didn't stay home to watch it. Question, at a certain point NHL.com said the score was 4-0 Flyers.. was this an error or was there a goal called back?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:34 AM ET
Bad feeling Tyler Myers is turning into a bigger disappointment than Luke schenn
- Winning


I wouldn't trade the kinds of assets they are demanding for him. It's not just his play, but that contract is a monster.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:34 AM ET
Just watched the highlights.. I am really glad that I didn't stay home to watch it. Question, at a certain point NHL.com said the score was 4-0 Flyers.. was this an error or was there a goal called back?
- Hextall271


Error. The live scoring had credited Vinny with a goal one second before Simmonds' second goal.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:35 AM ET
Tank this year and throw a whole boatload of cash at Babcock next year.
- PhillaBully


Tank like it's 1983 for Pit? or 2003-2006 for Pit? Not everyone can get away with it like the Penguins and come out smelling like a rose.

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 12 @ 9:36 AM ET
Error. The live scoring had credited Vinny with a goal one second before Simmonds' second goal.
- Jsaquella


Ok. Thanks. I really thought we had it if it was 4 0. Checked back and it was 3 1. I was like uh oh
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Oct 12 @ 9:37 AM ET
According to the press in Detroit, the asking price for Detroit included Anthony Mantha.
- Jsaquella




Well I guess B Schenn and Grossman wouldn't get it done then
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:38 AM ET
Yeah, we couldn't even get Patrick Kane--do you really think the league is going to hand us McDavid?
- KGBflyers10


Unlike the Kane-JvR draft, the consolation prize is pretty (frank)ing good. Jack Eichel is a fantastic prospect in his own right. In his first game with BU he had 4 points. In a pre-season tune up he had 5 assists. For some people, it's a toss up with him and McDavid.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:38 AM ET
change of team might help? Im sure his value isnt very high
- jmdodgeser4

Luke schenn needed change of team also
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:38 AM ET
Unlike the Kane-JvR draft, the consolation prize is pretty (frank)ing good. Jack Eichel is a fantastic prospect in his own right. In his first game with BU he had 4 points. In a pre-season tune up he had 5 assists. For some people, it's a toss up with him and McDavid.
- Jsaquella

I want a goal scorer. We already have a Giroux assist guy
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:41 AM ET
Well I guess B Schenn and Grossman wouldn't get it done then
- 3flyerkids


Probably not.
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