This has been happening for how many years and how many coaches?
- LJF

OK. It's been three games. Time to Laviolette and dump Berube.

It has. I'm not blaming the coach. I think they're not a very good team and they're playing an exceptionally tough stretch of games.
- Jsaquella

Didn't mean to sound like I was saying you were blaming the coach, more It just frustrating as hell that this keeps happening.

It is a very difficult start to the season, but that is why they needed to win this game. Get them going.

OK. It's been three games. Time to Laviolette and dump Berube.
- 77rams

when are people going to realize it's the players

vlassic scores!

Same old over-reliance on rush-chances and the PP... the other team has the puck (way) more and they're basically invited to tee off on Mase/Razor at will and make the Flyers defenders do the cat/laserpen chase.
- Tomahawk

Yeah, they get hemmed in and can't clear the puck for long stretches. They don't generate enough zone time, and honestly, it seems like they're already ignoring the talk about controlling the puck and carrying it into the zone more often. So often tonight they had guys headed into the zone and dumped it in when there was no need to do so.

They also give up the blueline so easily. It's not just MacDonald, who gets shredded for it, it's everyone. Right before the third Montreal goal, Grossmann got caught in no man's land trying to decide whether or not to pinch. Fortunately Streit picked up his man, but it led to zone time for the Habs.

HERTL THE TURTLE SCORES!

Coots the only forward to hit 50% CF (exactly). Read, Umberger and Voracek the only other ones above 40%. Streit the only dman over 40%. Everybody else in the 30%'s and below.

No idea how you can expect to win w/ numbers like that.

Coots the only forward to hit 50% CF (exactly). Read, Umberger and Voracek the only other ones above 40%. Streit the only dman over 40%. Everybody else in the 30%'s and below.

No idea how you can expect to win w/ numbers like that.
- Tomahawk

read umberger voracek and coots didn't score goals don't get how they expect to win if they don't score

HERTL THE TURTLE SCORES!
- 2Real

We're all delighted.

Didn't mean to sound like I was saying you were blaming the coach, more It just frustrating as hell that this keeps happening.

It is a very difficult start to the season, but that is why they needed to win this game. Get them going.
- LJF

Guys have to be held accountable by the leaders on the team. The coach can have a hand in it, but they need both.

It's not eve the lack of compete, but the sheer stupid they display at times. They force so many low percentage plays. The Habs held them in the zone for so long because they knew where the Flyers were going to try to go.

read umberger voracek and coots didn't score goals don't get how they expect to win if they don't score
- 2Real

How do you expect to score if you're on the ice for 2/3rd more shots against than shot for?

How do you expect to score if you're on the ice for 2/3rd more shots against than shot for?
- Jsaquella

how do we expect to score when our forwards in general just aren't that good

Took the wife to dinner tonight, because it's Saturday and that's what you do sometimes.

But we've been together long enough for her to make two comments when I checked the phone a couple of times:

"They're winning, aren't they?"

"They didn't just lose, did they?"

They also give up the blueline so easily. It's not just MacDonald, who gets shredded for it, it's everyone. Right before the third Montreal goal, Grossmann got caught in no man's land trying to decide whether or not to pinch. Fortunately Streit picked up his man, but it led to zone time for the Habs.
- Jsaquella

There was more frequent penetration in tonight's game than a brazzer's vid.

Took the wife to dinner tonight, because it's Saturday and that's what you do sometimes.

But we've been together long enough for her to make two comments when I checked the phone a couple of times:

"They're winning, aren't they?"

"They didn't just lose, did they?"
- AllInForFlyers

"Yes dear".

"Yes dear".

There was more frequent penetration in tonight's game than a brazzer's vid.
- Tomahawk

It happens far too often on a normal basis, but tonight was ridiculous.

how do we expect to score when our forwards in general just aren't that good
- 2Real

our forwards are fine. our d is atrocious.

"Yes dear".

"Yes dear".
- 77rams

I'm gonna go back and watch it, because that's what I do. But I'm gonna read this thread first, and if what I'm gathering from what Tomahawk's saying above is accurate, I'm probably gonna be really unhappy when I do

NO HONNOR FOR CONNOR

PHANTOMS BIG WIN

LET'S ROLL

Habs great comeback or Philly's pathetic meltdown?

Bit of both I guess.

Take the two points and run!

I'm gonna go back and watch it, because that's what I do. But I'm gonna read this thread first, and if what I'm gathering from what Tomahawk's saying above is accurate, I'm probably gonna be really unhappy when I do
- AllInForFlyers

Just stop before the 3rd-period.

Coots the only forward to hit 50% CF (exactly). Read, Umberger and Voracek the only other ones above 40%. Streit the only dman over 40%. Everybody else in the 30%'s and below.

No idea how you can expect to win w/ numbers like that.
- Tomahawk

Read has been off to a disappointing start.

Couts looks fine.

This game, just yuk.

our forwards are fine. our d is atrocious.
- moylander

our forwards are not fine they don't help out on defense and can't clear the zone for poop

Just stop before the 3rd-period.
- Tomahawk

Yeah -- it was all I could do to not just drop a straight-up F-bomb in a fairly decent restaurant when I saw it was 3-3

I know it was a joke. But a troublesome trend. Teams need to compete for 60 minutes. The Flyers stopped competing in the third
- Jsaquella

How many years and coaches have we seen the same theme repeat itself. Never a 60 min effort. Very troubling.