Chicago was never in danger of missing the playoffs...toronto was battling until the last month.
- rangerdanger94

still pretty irrelevant. I heard it's a team game - might be wrong....just a rumor I heard.

still pretty irrelevant. I heard it's a team game - might be wrong....just a rumor I heard.
- BlowMonkey

You're right...the entire maple leafs hockey club choked and failed at the end of the season, including phil kessel. We on the same page now?

You're right...the entire maple leafs hockey club choked and failed at the end of the season, including phil kessel. We on the same page now?
- rangerdanger94

That is a lot more accurate....but just so I feel I haven't failed you I'm going to go over this math thing one more time for you - this poop will blow your mind son!

lets say in January Phil only got 7 points like he did in the last 14 games of the season....but then in March/April he got the 21 points he had in January originally.....would the Leafs have made the playoffs? (I'm going to give you a hint....no.).

How is Kessel on anyone's top 5?

The guy has had one plus season in his career.

I know +/- isn't the end all, be all, stat, but come on.

That is a lot more accurate....but just so I feel I haven't failed you I'm going to go over this math thing one more time for you - this poop will blow your mind son!

lets say in January Phil only got 7 points like he did in the last 14 games of the season....but then in March/April he got the 21 points he had in January originally.....would the Leafs have made the playoffs? (I'm going to give you a hint....no.).
- BlowMonkey

It could've considering you won some games in january by 2 or more goals while you lost some in march/april by 1 goal. If you take all those goals from january after you guys were upby a goal an move them into march/april you still win games in january and at least get OT points in march/april.

More realistic top 5, based on who you would want on your team to win the cup:

1. Perry
2. Benn
3. Kane
4. Hossa
5. Steen

It could've considering you won some games in january by 2 or more goals while you lost some in march/april by 1 goal. If you take all those goals from january after you guys were upby a goal an move them into march/april you still win games in january and at least get OT points in march/april.
- rangerdanger94

yes if you got to fix it exactly putting every point exactly where you wanted they might have made it.....might.

I'm sure every coach would choose to have a player who scores 1 point per game over 82 games instead of some points here and some points there....fact is very few (if any) players achieve that....most - like Kane and Kessel do it in spurts. It is irrelevant if it is in January or March - they all go into the same pot. They help win games.....which are worth 2 points in January the same as a win in March is worth 2 points.

yes if you got to fix it exactly putting every point exactly where you wanted they might have made it.....might.

I'm sure every coach would choose to have a player who scores 1 point per game over 82 games instead of some points here and some points there....fact is very few (if any) players achieve that....most - like Kane and Kessel do it in spurts. It is irrelevant if it is in January or March - they all go into the spot pot. They help win games.....which are worth 2 points in January the same as a win in March is worth 2 points.
- BlowMonkey

But are 2 points in march worth much to a team that clinches in February? Are 2 points in March worth more to a team that is fighting for an 8 seed until the last week?

But are 2 points in march worth much to a team that clinches in February? Are 2 points in March worth more to a team that is fighting for an 8 seed until the last week?
- rangerdanger94

well this is excellent stuff....now if the Leafs just play Phil in March/April (keep him fresh all year) then they will make the playoffs right? You should be a coach.

well this is excellent stuff....now if the Leafs just play Phil in March/April (keep him fresh all year) then they will make the playoffs right? You should be a coach.
- BlowMonkey

I think you're missing the point

More realistic top 5, based on who you would want on your team to win the cup:

1. Perry
2. Benn
3. Kane
4. Hossa
5. Steen
- Charliebox

So Kessel doesn't deserve to be in the top 5 because he was a complete player for only 1 year (not a negative +/-) but Steen should be there because he's obviously a consistent goal scoring threat every year

Saying "realistic" doesn't make it realistic.

Before you nerds roast me, I would just like to come clean about something: I forget about Corey Perry when I made my list. Not sure why or how, but I did. Obviously he is a top 3 winger in the NHL. My bad.
- James_Tanner

What's Chiasson's excuse?

What's Chiasson's excuse?
- yzermaneely

Shark fan.

More realistic top 5, based on who you would want on your team to win the cup:

1. Perry
2. Benn
3. Kane
4. Hossa
5. Steen
- Charliebox

I would not take Hossa/Steen over Kessel/Ovie/Hall.

I would not take Hossa/Steen over Kessel/Ovie/Hall.
- Nucker101

He's a Sens fans, so you know...

How is Kessel on anyone's top 5?

The guy has had one plus season in his career.

I know +/- isn't the end all, be all, stat, but come on.
- Charliebox

I bet you love Erik Karlsson.

He's a Sens fans, so you know...
- ClarksonDavid

Figured it had to be one of the Leaf-hating fanbases, likely from the East since he didn't have Hall ahead of Steen/Hossa either.

Figured it had to be one of the Leaf-hating fanbases, likely from the East since he didn't have Hall ahead of Steen/Hossa either.
- Nucker101

Steens a funny addition. Mine would be Perry, Hall, Kessel, Kane, Benn

Steens a funny addition. Mine would be Perry, Hall, Kessel, Kane, Benn
- ClarksonDavid

I'd still take Ovie over Benn, but yeah those guys would be my top 6. Can't believe Kane wasn't top 5 on all lists.

I'd still take Ovie over Benn, but yeah those guys would be my top 6. Can't believe Kane wasn't top 5 on all lists.
- Nucker101

I had trouble with Kane and Kessel and because I'm a leaf fan I picked Kessel good chance this time next year I have Benn over both of them though. How did that guy get picked in the 5th round?

1. Franzen
2. Nyquist
3. Tatar
4. Jurco
5. Abdelkader

Edit: Kessel would be #5 if he played for Detroit.

How is Kessel on anyone's top 5?

The guy has had one plus season in his career.

I know +/- isn't the end all, be all, stat, but come on.
- Charliebox

u laugh at someone's top 5, and then put steen on yours.

Uhhh Jake Voracek? No mention. Wow.

Uhhh Jake Voracek? No mention. Wow.
- flyerscup2011

great player. im a big fan

top 5? not even really close

great player. im a big fan

top 5? not even really close
- hugefemale dog77

He's fishing.