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Agreed about the overrated. He's also pretty 1 dimensional, completely lacking in defensive/physical aspects. Apparently none of that matters.
I'd easily put Ove, Benn, Perry, Zetterberg (if you can count him as LW), Kane, and Hall over Kessel. - RonPielep
On the players you mentioned,
I'd put Ovechkin, Benn, Perry, and Hall over Kessel. Kessel is a less flashy, higher scoring version of Kane and Zetterberg's years of scoring 40 or more are long over. The only reason to consider Zetterberg as near the top five is his completely dominating puck control and two-way play. |
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Perry
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correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't hossa have the benefit of playing with stronger linemates..........especially toews. i was under the impression that kane and toews rarely play together.
if that's the case, then kane is putting up the same numbers, with significantly less talented linemates (no offense to whoever his center has been, but clearly isnt nearly as good as toews) - sensarmy_11
But Sen....don't you remember??? Toews is really NOT that great. Scores less than a point per game. Not even a top 5 center in the NHL. So for Hossa to contribute dispite that dead weight,,,,well, Hossa must be included. (smile).....apparently you didn't participate in yesterday's center conversation.. |
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@sens_adnan
Ha, Phil Kessel has 8% more 5-on-5 points than any forward over the last 3 years. Didn't see that coming. - Ryan_Wilson
Only because of Bozak.
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Hall finally has some love and respect |
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But Sen....don't you remember??? Toews is really NOT that great. Scores less than a point per game. Not even a top 5 center in the NHL. So for Hossa to contribute dispite that dead weight,,,,well, Hossa must be included. (smile)..... - hawk35
To be fair, Spatso said Turris is better than Toews (something about 5 on 5 play), so Toews is really dropping |
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I chose Hossa over him. Both had very similar even strength production and Hossa can give you more defensively.
There literally isn't a game situation where you wouldn't want Hossa on the ice for it.
Patrick Kane is probably #1 on the aesthetically pleasing to watch list among wingers. - Ryan_Wilson
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Hall finally has some love and respect - ChetManly
I.thought he always did? It's the other first overalls |
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I.thought he always did? It's the other first overalls - walshyleafsfan
There's been a number of people that still try to bash Hall. |
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Agreed about the overrated. He's also pretty 1 dimensional, completely lacking in defensive/physical aspects. Apparently none of that matters.
I'd easily put Ove, Benn, Perry, Zetterberg (if you can count him as LW), Kane, and Hall over Kessel. - RonPielep
It's astonishing how Kessel has consistently produced every year (better than all those points-wise) with a 3rd line centre and still is considered overrated. |
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Annnnnd the difference between "controversial" and just pain ignorant? Apparently none. That tanner blogger really trying hard to set himself apart
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It's astonishing how Kessel has consistently produced every year (better than all those points-wise) with a 3rd line centre and still is considered overrated. - peddy-93
It has nothing to do with the player. |
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It has nothing to do with the player. - walshyleafsfan
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of course you would, because you're a (frank)ing idiot - Conquest
You sound like you disagree. Kessel isn't top 5. Top 10, yes. |
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How can anyone put OV in any top five. It is not possible. He is such a liability, yeah he can score when he takes 400 shots year. He cant and doesn't play defense. He is so overrated. Capitals will never win if OV is playing top line minutes. He needs to be demoted to third line and power play specialist for them to succeed.
Perry
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of course you would, because you're a (frank)ing idiot - Conquest
Talk about hateful. Calm down, champ, no need to insult someone for having an informed opinion. |
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Talk about hateful. Calm down, champ, no need to insult someone for having an informed opinion. - YzermanIsTheMan
These are leaf fans you are talking to. There is no calm demeanor or politeness when talking to them. |
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if you're talking about the best all around wingers, guys who you win with... Corey Perry, Jamie Benn, Marian Hossa, Henrik Zetterberg, Marty St. Louis
strictly offence... Perry, Benn, Kessel, Hall and Ovechkin
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These are leaf fans you are talking to. There is no calm demeanor or politeness when talking to them. - ChetManly
Meh, depends which one you talk to. But it's hard to believe people still think Kessel is overrated. |
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I never liked Corey Perry since that Olympic giveaway
My FAVOURITES; not saying who is best:
Kessel
Kane
Hall
Benn
And I really agreed with whoever had Hossa down. The guy is underrated. And I'm still kinda mad at him for the Berard incident but as time goes on I'm kinda over it. Hossa is a beast.
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JVR will be talked about one day as a great winger.
75-80 points next year. Book it. |
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These are leaf fans you are talking to. There is no calm demeanor or politeness when talking to them. - ChetManly
That seems like quite a sweeping generalization statement |
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[quote=YzermanIsTheMan]On the players you mentioned,
Kessel is younger (not as injury prone) and a better goal scorer, but Zetterberg is still a much better player. Even last year on a per game basis Zetterberg doesn't score as much as Kessel (still he projects out to 27-30 goals to Kessels 37) and is better in pretty much every other category.
Add in Zetterbergs defensive skills, and the ability to put a team on his (injured) back and carry it into the playoffs (like he did two years ago) and it's not even close. |
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These are leaf fans you are talking to. There is no calm demeanor or politeness when talking to them. - ChetManly
I like most of the Leafs' fans. As compared to the team, that is. |
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