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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 7 @ 9:55 AM ET
Leave it vacant until Boone Jenner gets another 2 years under his belt.
- jmatchett383


No Jason Smith-esque bridge captaincy?
The_Universe
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Soviet Russia
Joined: 02.11.2012

Oct 7 @ 9:57 AM ET
Sorry if I missed this yesterday, but who is alternate captain other than 17?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
No Jason Smith-esque bridge captaincy?
- NickTheKid87


While I had no problem with Smith getting the captaincy (he deserved it), I'm not really a fan of the "bridge" captain, a la Derian Hatcher. I think it should command a bit more prestige and reverence.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
Sorry if I missed this yesterday, but who is alternate captain other than 17?
- The_Universe


Streit, I think.
The_Universe
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Soviet Russia
Joined: 02.11.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
Streit, I think.
- jmatchett383


Not a bad choice I suppose. I figured it'd go to Coburn pretty much due to longevity.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:02 AM ET
I try my best.

Where my Supernatural homies at?!

- Giroux_Is_God



Right here! If you watched the retrospective last night? Did you notice they eliminated any mention of Leviathan?


Just skipped over it as if it never happened.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:02 AM ET
While I had no problem with Smith getting the captaincy (he deserved it), I'm not really a fan of the "bridge" captain, a la Derian Hatcher. I think it should command a bit more prestige and reverence.
- jmatchett383


The Flyers always seem to name a captain. They don't do the three As and no C like some teams. After Primeau it was Forsberg, Hatcher, Smith, Richards, Pronger and now Giroux. You could make a case for Forsberg, Hatcher and Smith just being given the C for the sake of having a captain. All three were deserving players (Hatcher and Smith wore the C before) but they were older and on short deals.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
Absolutely. Getting rid of the Hartnell contract, the necessary evil was taking back a dead man walking.
- PLindbergh31


Would have rather have kept Hartnell, but this gives Brayden Schenn his chance to shine.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
Not a bad choice I suppose. I figured it'd go to Coburn pretty much due to longevity.
- The_Universe


Streit's a former captain. It's well-deserved.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:04 AM ET
Pretty cute:

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:04 AM ET
Not a bad choice I suppose. I figured it'd go to Coburn pretty much due to longevity.
- The_Universe


After all this time with the team and Coburn gets the A in preseason and that's about it. Makes me think he doesn't want it and/or he's not the kind of leader. Streit was a captain before at least, as was Timonen. Jagr and Talbot even wore the A over Coburn and they weren't here nearly as long. Both those guys had wore a letter before as well, Jagr having been a captain.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 7 @ 10:07 AM ET
Right here! If you watched the retrospective last night? Did you notice they eliminated any mention of Leviathan?


Just skipped over it as if it never happened.

- MBFlyerfan

See I liked them. Those monsters were awesome!

There was a snippet of Richard being stabbed but other than that, you're right
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:10 AM ET
Just slightly premature.
- MJL


Not sure it's premature with the dozen or so games I watched from Columbus last season...he looked to be a shell of his former self last year.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:12 AM ET
See I liked them. Those monsters were awesome!

There was a snippet of Richard being stabbed but other than that, you're right

- Giroux_Is_God



I just felt it wasn't enough for a full season. It should have been a story arc and that's it.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:13 AM ET
Not sure it's premature with the dozen or so games I watched from Columbus last season...he looked to be a shell of his former self last year.
- aantny88



How has Hartnell been so far with Columbus? I cant find any sites that list preseason stats.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:15 AM ET
Absolutely. Getting rid of the Hartnell contract, the necessary evil was taking back a dead man walking.
- PLindbergh31


Wasn't Columbus going to use a compliance buyout on Umberger before the Flyers traded for him? I really liked Hartsy as a team guy and he scored some big goals as a Flyer...shame he couldn't stay on his feet and avoid the dumb penalties. Casualty of the cap ala Scottie Upshall
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:16 AM ET
How has Hartnell been so far with Columbus? I cant find any sites that list preseason stats.
- MBFlyerfan


5GP 0G 2A +1 4PIM 14SOG

http://www.cbssports.com/...preseason-category-points
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:16 AM ET
How has Hartnell been so far with Columbus? I cant find any sites that list preseason stats.
- MBFlyerfan


Not sure that's really relevant...I wasn't talking about Hartnell's play this year! Only what I saw in the preseason and last year from Umberger.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:17 AM ET
How has Hartnell been so far with Columbus? I cant find any sites that list preseason stats.
- MBFlyerfan


5 Games, 2 assists.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
5 Games, 2 assists.
- tangent_man


How many hartnell downs?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
Wasn't Columbus going to use a compliance buyout on Umberger before the Flyers traded for him? I really liked Hartsy as a team guy and he scored some big goals as a Flyer...shame he couldn't stay on his feet and avoid the dumb penalties. Casualty of the cap ala Scottie Upshall
- aantny88


That's my only big issue. If they wanted to do a Hartnell for Umberger trade, then fine. But why not trade Hartnell for the pick, have CBJ use a CBO on Umberger and have a handshake deal in place? Probably violates the CBA, but that's nothing new.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
How many hartnell downs?
- ob18


Infinity x 6.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
Not sure it's premature with the dozen or so games I watched from Columbus last season...he looked to be a shell of his former self last year.
- aantny88


He didn't have a good year -- and wasn't healthy -- but still led the team in power play goals (eight). I know he got a clean bill of health over the summer but I worry more about him holding up physically than about being a vet with a guaranteed roster spot who had a very quiet preseason.

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:25 AM ET
5GP 0G 2A +1 4PIM 14SOG

http://www.cbssports.com/...preseason-category-points

- Tomahawk


Streit led all players in points.

NORRIS
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
He didn't have a good year -- and wasn't healthy -- but still led the team in power play goals (eight). I know he got a clean bill of health over the summer but I worry more about him holding up physically than about being a vet with a guaranteed roster spot who had a very quiet preseason.
- bmeltzer


I'm with you Bill...my worry is that he didn't look good physically. Goals, assists and points in preseason mean very little and it'd be a shame if he plays poorly after requesting to leave Columbus.
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