Whenever someone says the Flyers need more enforcers, size and toughness, I think about the '97 Finals
- PhillySportsGuy

Gah!!! Not going back there.... I've since replaced that finals memory with the chick in 'my girl' sitting on the stairs, plugging her ears and singing "Do Wah Diddy Diddy".

I just checked hockey reference. The Black Hawks had 9 forwards over 200lbs in 2010 when they won the cup and 9 in 2013 when they won the cup. In 2010, they also had Byfuglien who played defense but also some forward. He is 265 lbs. Gaborik is over 200 lbs. The Flyers have only 4 forwards over 200 lbs. Didn't the Bruins have the most fights or second most fights last year? They are consistently one of the best teams in the league. And, Detroit had 7 fights last year and since they have adopted this no arms policy, they've won nothing.

It was only one incident and it was really a minor thing. 15 years ago and I don't even think it would have been reported. It would have come out in a tell all book.
- PhillySportsGuy

Good point. But it was reported and I can't help seeing him as a bit of a douche bag.

I just checked hockey reference. The Black Hawks had 9 forwards over 200lbs in 2010 when they won the cup and 9 in 2013 when they won the cup. In 2010, they also had Byfuglien who played defense but also some forward. He is 265 lbs. Gaborik is over 200 lbs. The Flyers have only 4 forwards over 200 lbs. Didn't the Bruins have the most fights or second most fights last year? They are consistently one of the best teams in the league. And, Detroit had 7 fights last year and since they have adopted this no arms policy, they've won nothing.
- Bergey

Odd, Detroit was 30th in the NHL in fighting majors when they won the Stanley Cup in 2008

The Bruins were second in fights, and were eliminated in the second round. The conference finals featured teams that were 27th, 25th, 21st and 5th in fighting majors last year. The teams that were 2st and 25th went to the Final.

When LA won the Stanley Cup in 2012, they were 18th in the NHL in fighting majors. In fact Boston is the only team in the past 6 years to finish in the top 15 in fighting majors to win the Stanley Cup.

Most cops like their butts grabbed
- Jsaquella

I was at a wedding last night with my cop friend. I smacked his ass. He was quite alright with it.

Odd, Detroit was 30th in the NHL in fighting majors when they won the Stanley Cup in 2008

The Bruins were second in fights, and were eliminated in the second round. The conference finals featured teams that were 27th, 25th, 21st and 5th in fighting majors last year. The teams that were 2st and 25th went to the Final.

When LA won the Stanley Cup in 2012, they were 18th in the NHL in fighting majors. In fact Boston is the only team in the past 6 years to finish in the top 15 in fighting majors to win the Stanley Cup.
- Jsaquella

What about the size of these teams? Did you check that??

I was at a wedding last night with my cop friend. I smacked his ass. He was quite alright with it.
- PhillySportsGuy

That's a lovely memory for both of ya

I just checked hockey reference. The Black Hawks had 9 forwards over 200lbs in 2010 when they won the cup and 9 in 2013 when they won the cup. In 2010, they also had Byfuglien who played defense but also some forward. He is 265 lbs. Gaborik is over 200 lbs. The Flyers have only 4 forwards over 200 lbs. Didn't the Bruins have the most fights or second most fights last year? They are consistently one of the best teams in the league. And, Detroit had 7 fights last year and since they have adopted this no arms policy, they've won nothing.
- Bergey

I think the point is that this poop doesn't matter. You can win as a team that fights a lot or as a team that doesn't.

That's a lovely memory for both of ya
- Jsaquella

A wedding is a time for special, once in a lifetime moments

I think the point is that this poop doesn't matter. You can win as a team that fights a lot or as a team that doesn't.
- PhillySportsGuy

And also you can't just have a "big" team, they need to actually be able to play; see 90's era flyers

I just checked hockey reference. The Black Hawks had 9 forwards over 200lbs in 2010 when they won the cup and 9 in 2013 when they won the cup. In 2010, they also had Byfuglien who played defense but also some forward. He is 265 lbs. Gaborik is over 200 lbs. The Flyers have only 4 forwards over 200 lbs. Didn't the Bruins have the most fights or second most fights last year? They are consistently one of the best teams in the league. And, Detroit had 7 fights last year and since they have adopted this no arms policy, they've won nothing.
- Bergey

oh poop no way? maybe we should have the guys eat more

Matt Read.
- Pixote Andolini

thought they sent him to the phantoms for additional seasoning

What about the size of these teams? Did you check that??
- Bergey

Yes, they are bigger than the Flyers are now. No question.

The average size difference between the Flyers and Kings last season was .5 inches and 8 lbs. Between them and the Hawks, the Flyers were l1 inch taller and 2 lbs lighter.

So while I will agree that the Flyers could stand to be bigger, continuously bringing up Rosehill is nonsense. He's a 29 year old who has never been able to average more than 5-7 minutes a night because he's not a good hockey player.

Comparing him to Clifford and Nolan as players is laughable, because they are good players, who made the NHL by playing hockey. Rosehill would be an ECHLer if there was no fighting in hockey. He's limited in his skill, he's below average as a defensive player and he's simply not good enough to be anything more than a fighter.

If you want to make the argument that the Flyers could stand to be bigger, I'd agree. But bringing up fighting and calling for them to waste a spot on a goon is ridiculous.

Good point. But it was reported and I can't help seeing him as a bit of a douche bag.
- Dkos

He doesn't come off that way to me. I guess I'm his age, so I can relate a little more. I've seen much worse from people and most cops just laugh it off or let it go. He obviously just got the wrong cop on the wrong day.

oh poop no way? maybe we should have the guys eat more
- 2Real

No we just need Rosehill to get 15 minutes a night

And also you can't just have a "big" team, they need to actually be able to play; see 90's era flyers
- JoeRussomanno

Yeah. It sure would be nice to have a bunch of forwards like the Kings who are big, can skate, handle the puck and play two-way. I feel thats stating the obvious though.

Who scores the first goal of the season for the Flyers?
- SuperSchennBros

Simon Gagne

thought they sent him to the phantoms for additional seasoning
- Crimsoninja

Taking graduate courses at Bimiji St. Appealing NCAA for one more year of eligibility.

Yeah. It sure would be nice to have a bunch of forwards like the Kings who are big, can skate, handle the puck and play two-way. I feel thats stating the obvious though.
- PhillySportsGuy

Hell, even Detroit, when it was winning in the late 1990's and early 2000's had a line of guys who could play and fight. They had Aaron Downey in a limited role, but guys like McCarty played good all around hockey.

Taking graduate courses at Bimiji St. Appealing NCAA for one more year of eligibility.
- PhillySportsGuy

read this in pierre mcguire voice

I just checked hockey reference. The Black Hawks had 9 forwards over 200lbs in 2010 when they won the cup and 9 in 2013 when they won the cup. In 2010, they also had Byfuglien who played defense but also some forward. He is 265 lbs. Gaborik is over 200 lbs. The Flyers have only 4 forwards over 200 lbs. Didn't the Bruins have the most fights or second most fights last year? They are consistently one of the best teams in the league. And, Detroit had 7 fights last year and since they have adopted this no arms policy, they've won nothing.
- Bergey

From NHL-reference
2010 hawks forwards w/ more than 10 playoff games played (weight)
Toews (208)
Kane (188)
Sharp (199)
Bolland (184)
Hossa (210)
Versteeg (183)
Brouwer (213)
Kopecki (203)
Ladd (205)
Eager (240)
Madden (190)
Burish (195)

2013 hawks forwards w/ more than 10 playoff games played (weight)
Kane (181)
Bickell (233)
Hossa (210)
Sharp (199)
Toews (208)
Handzus (215)
Frolik (198)
Shaw (180)
Bolland (184)
Saad (202)
Kruger (181)
Stalberg (209)

From NHL-reference
2010 hawks forwards w/ more than 10 playoff games played (weight)
Toews (208)
Kane (188)
Sharp (199)
Bolland (184)
Hossa (210)
Versteeg (183)
Brouwer (213)
Kopecki (203)
Ladd (205)
Eager (240)
Madden (190)
Burish (195)

2013 hawks forwards w/ more than 10 playoff games played (weight)
Kane (181)
Bickell (233)
Hossa (210)
Sharp (199)
Toews (208)
Handzus (215)
Frolik (198)
Shaw (180)
Bolland (184)
Saad (202)
Kruger (181)
Stalberg (209)
- moylander

maybe they would have won more cups if Kane didn't cut 7 pounds.... (frank)ing vegan

read this in pierre mcguire voice
- Crimsoninja

It's cute that you assume I don't always do this

Who scores the first goal of the season for the Flyers?
- SuperSchennBros

Rosehill

Nah just kidding. Couldn't resist.

It'll be Grossmann

read this in pierre mcguire voice
- Crimsoninja

Tis the Regis season