I've been saying the same thing for a couple of years now. It should be GMJR's first priority. I really don't care what it takes as far as picks or players, just get it done. It's time.
- madmike71

Spot on, mate. That's why I'm still open to trading any of the young D, including Pouliot. As well as giving up current roster players like Sutter and Martin. As well as our first round pick. Some combination of those guys can certainly get us the player we want. Just give Sid another Hossa and take us to another cup.

I couldn't disagree more. Letang is our number #1 minutes wise, but Martin is our best defenseman in our own zone and is the stabiliser in our lineup. Martin also had multiple rock solid years with the Devils, his bad years were bumps in between 5+ seasons of being great, not the norm. Malkin has been the guy to up his desire in the playoffs and do everything to help us win. He gets criticised WAY above what he deserves consistently, from every outlet.
- cygnus41

Martin will not be a Pen next year, and a good chance he wont even finish the season here. Prepare to move on. The Pens D as a whole has been awful the last few years. Nisk was just slightly above average had 1 good season, Orpik was bad for several years, Scuds is a train wreck, Martin missed as many games as Letang last year and just as injury and older. When 87, 71 and 58 are out, the team struggles the most when 58 is gone.

Spot on, mate. That's why I'm still open to trading any of the young D, including Pouliot. As well as giving up current roster players like Sutter and Martin. As well as our first round pick. Some combination of those guys can certainly get us the player we want. Just give Sid another Hossa and take us to another cup.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

There aren't too many of those players, and even less of them that are available.

There aren't too many of those players, and even less of them that are available.
- rival22

Exactly. It's like another team saying that all they need is their own Crosby and they'll be fine.

This team needs multiple competent wingers long-term, not one marquee guy that takes tons of resources to acquire and tons of cap space to retain.

There aren't too many of those players, and even less of them that are available.
- rival22

Basically just referring to Kane lol. But I would accept much lower levels of talent hopefully 27 or younger.

Basically just referring to Kane lol. But I would accept much lower levels of talent hopefully 27 or younger.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Assuming they can get Bennett signed next summer, they've got their top 5 organizational wingers (Hornqvist, Kunitz, Dupuis, Kapanen and Bennett) together for the next three seasons.

Assuming they can get Bennett signed next summer, they've got their top 5 organizational wingers (Hornqvist, Kunitz, Dupuis, Kapanen and Bennett) together for the next three seasons.
- hardnosed

You seriously want Kunitz and Dupes in the top 5 beyond this year?

You seriously want Kunitz and Dupes in the top 5 beyond this year?
- sammy87

Top 5 wingers? Absolutely. Why not?

Martin will not be a Pen next year, and a good chance he wont even finish the season here. Prepare to move on. The Pens D as a whole has been awful the last few years. Nisk was just slightly above average had 1 good season, Orpik was bad for several years, Scuds is a train wreck, Martin missed as many games as Letang last year and just as injury and older. When 87, 71 and 58 are out, the team struggles the most when 58 is gone.
- sammy87

If they do trade Martin, it needs to be sooner rather than later. His value is higher now, and I think losing Martin at the deadline wouldn't give the pens enough time to adjust to his loss. Trading him now allows a lot of time to plug different players in his spot and see who can take his minutes

If they do trade Martin, it needs to be sooner rather than later. His value is higher now, and I think losing Martin at the deadline wouldn't give the pens enough time to adjust to his loss. Trading him now allows a lot of time to plug different players in his spot and see who can take his minutes
- SnippinBarDown

Yes, absolutely right. I read somewhere that the islanders were interested. Ill take okaposo for martin and samuleson(sp). Although Idk if okaposo is the right fit for this team. Maybe grabber since he's like a younger Dupuis?

Trade Martin and who is Maatta's partner for the 2nd pairing? And Maatta is a 20 year old who ran out of gas last year and is coming off injury.

Trading Martin would be a huge mistake, which is why it has a snowball's chance of happening.

Top 5 wingers? Absolutely. Why not?
- hardnosed

I am of the opinion that 87 has been handicapped by Dupes for at least 2 years. Dupes had a great season in the lockout year, but so did a lot of older players. The fact is that Dupes is a 3rd line player. Last cup win, Dupes was in his prime and on the 4th line. Not to mention both are 35 and have had injuries recently. Sid has been shut down the past 2 playoffs partly due to his poor line mates. Dupes should be on the 3rd line this yr, Kunitz should be there next year. Kunitz-Goc-Dupes would be an excellent 3rd line.

Yes, absolutely right. I read somewhere that the islanders were interested. Ill take okaposo for martin and samuleson(sp). Although Idk if okaposo is the right fit for this team. Maybe grabber since he's like a younger Dupuis?
- nateca44

Yeah Sutter and Martin are the only players that are tradeable. They really cant move anyone else other than prospects. One of the D prospects should be able to partly fill a void on the cheap for Martin while Maata steps up his game as well as Despress. I would like Okposo or Grabner. I think they would be prime targets. Pens need 1 maybe 2 top 6 to fill this roster out. Martin has the biggest chunk of salary.

Yeah Sutter and Martin are the only players that are tradeable. They really cant move anyone else other than prospects. One of the D prospects should be able to partly fill a void on the cheap for Martin while Maata steps up his game as well as Despress. I would like Okposo or Grabner. I think they would be prime targets. Pens need 1 maybe 2 top 6 to fill this roster out. Martin has the biggest chunk of salary.
- sammy87

Okposo would be ideal. He's like Hornqvist but I think tougher. He replaces Kunitz when his contract is up. I like grabner, but Kapanen seems to be like a grabner type player.

Okposo would be ideal. He's like Hornqvist but I think tougher. He replaces Kunitz when his contract is up. I like grabner, but Kapanen seems to be like a grabner type player.
- SnippinBarDown

I like both. Okposo is starting to come alive now that hes with JT and he is doing so well. I don't like the ideas of Ryan or Kane, they're just not reasonable when the Pens have 87 and 71.

Trade Martin and who is Maatta's partner for the 2nd pairing? And Maatta is a 20 year old who ran out of gas last year and is coming off injury.

Trading Martin would be a huge mistake, which is why it has a snowball's chance of happening.
- hardnosed

Depres? Harrington? Bortuzzo? Poulliot? Scuderi? Idk I just feel like we obviously have enough d guys that can step up that Martin is the odd guy out due to his value to pick up a quality winger.

Depres? Harrington? Bortuzzo? Poulliot? Scuderi? Idk I just feel like we obviously have enough d guys that can step up that Martin is the odd guy out due to his value to pick up a quality winger.
- nateca44

I truly think that if Martin is traded, he could land a 2nd pairing dman. Maybe throw in another prospect or a late draft pick. Similar to the gogo for nisk/Neal deal

I truly think that if Martin is traded, he could land a 2nd pairing dman. Maybe throw in another prospect or a late draft pick. Similar to the gogo for nisk/Neal deal
- SnippinBarDown

Why trade Martin for another Dman?

Why trade Martin for another Dman?
- sammy87

Someone just to hold his spot in case one of the kids can't take it right away. I guess scuderi could, but I'd rather not

Are we doing fantasy again this yr?? Wtf gunner

I'd say hold onto Martin since no other player can really bring what he can. Maybe later in the season you can trade him if another player steps up, but not right now

I'd say hold onto Martin since no other player can really bring what he can. Maybe later in the season you can trade him if another player steps up, but not right now
- drummer829

I think that's exactly what they will do. JMO, I really think it will be a mistake to let the guy leave for nothing.

Hey if anyone is interested in doing another Pittsburgh Hockeybuzzers fantasy league let me know, Ill be setting it up this yr. Just send me a PM. Hopefully we can get 10 to 12 teams and do a draft monday or tuesday night...

Johnny wrath has been talking the demise of Kunitz since the end of last season. Apparently 35 g and 79 points ( carear year) is a
Sign of decline.... ??? So let's get this straight kunitz looks mediocre in a pre season game and he s ready for a third line role??? Wow talk about reading your own
Opinions into things ... If this is not" prophecy historisized" then I don't know what is!!!
- Brianandr1

I've repeatedly said two things about Chris Kunitz: that he's got a below average cap hit for his production, and that I'm disgusted by the way he watched from ten feet away as Sid was pummeled by Jack Johnson and Brandon Dubinsky, especially while wearing an A.

Well this is the guy who I called out for copying and pasting information on letangs heart condition straight from the mayo clinic website last season and trying to pass it off as his own words. He even claimed it was his own conclusion even though the team had just had the press release on what was wrong with letang. It was even funnier when he disappeared from posting for a while afterward, but I wouldn't put it passed him to do the same every time he wants to pretend he's more intelligent than everyone else who posts here.
- ImScore71

I'll let the regular readers of this thread decide if that's the typical Johnny response to calumny.