Favorite part is bolded.

Im also starting to think its more and more likely Downie is in the top 6.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I don't know what else you do with him. He just isn't any good anymore.

If a F gets injured, call him back up. I don't want him on the ice, but given his contract he might be the best call-up option available in case of injury. If we get lucky he'd be claimed off of re-entry waivers leaving us with 1/2 of his contract on the books for the rest of the season; I can live with that should it happen.

Clock is ticking for this Mueller waiver claim.

I didn't see much of the game. I was to busy watching the buccos get beat down.

I don't know what else you do with him. He just isn't any good anymore.

If a F gets injured, call him back up. I don't want him on the ice, but given his contract he might be the best call-up option available in case of injury. If we get lucky he'd be claimed off of re-entry waivers leaving us with 1/2 of his contract on the books for the rest of the season; I can live with that should it happen.
- s0rcerer1984

No more re-entry waivers. It went away with latest CBA.

No more re-entry waivers. It went away with latest CBA.
- Ryan_Wilson

Well, losing my dream Craig Adams & 1/2 his Cap Hit just died.

All of that might be a bit much, but I could see the following for the start of the season:

FORWARDS
Chris Kunitz ($3.850m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Kasperi Kapanen ($0.925m)
Pascal Dupuis ($3.750m) / Evgeni Malkin ($9.500m) / Patric Hornqvist ($4.250m)
Nick Spaling ($2.200m) / Brandon Sutter ($3.300m) / Steve Downie ($1.000m)
Blake Comeau ($0.700m) / Marcel Goc ($1.200m) / Oskar Sundqvist ($0.701m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kris Letang ($7.250m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m)
Paul Martin ($5.000m) / Olli Maatta ($0.894m)
Simon Despres ($0.900m) / Brian Dumoulin ($0.832m)
Rob Scuderi ($3.375m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Thomas Greiss ($1.000m)
BURIED
Craig Adams ($0.600m)
LTIR
Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
Robert Bortuzzo ($0.600m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,926,667; BONUSES: $292,500
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $73,333

When Bennett & Bortuzzo come back (asuming everyone stays healthy), Dumoulin goes down to WBS & Kapenen's 9-gm cup of coffee* ends w/ him going back to Sweden.

* = Only a metaphor; at his age I doubt he drinks coffee.
- s0rcerer1984

Sutter makes more than double what Goc makes hahaha.


F Sutter

No more re-entry waivers. It went away with latest CBA.
- Ryan_Wilson

you know, I'm surprised we don't see more of it, but much like the NFL "draft value chart" I think NHL teams will have a sort of "Draft Pick value Chart"

Like the Pens want to dump a 600k salary, What sort of pick would you have to give a team to eat that for you... 2nd round, 3rd round, 4th round?

If I were an owner/GM, it would definitely be a tool in my box for a rebuild

I might even ice an entire team of castoffs for a season or 2, just to load up on the draft picks. Teams are forced to spend 50 million anyways.....

you know, I'm surprised we don't see more of it, but much like the NFL "draft value chart" I think NHL teams will have a sort of "Draft Pick value Chart"

Like the Pens want to dump a 600k salary, What sort of pick would you have to give a team to eat that for you... 2nd round, 3rd round, 4th round?

If I were an owner/GM, it would definitely be a tool in my box for a rebuild

I might even ice an entire team of castoffs for a season or 2, just to load up on the draft picks. Teams are forced to spend 50 million anyways.....
- RoloTahmasee

A few teams (Calgary, Toronto) have tried offering to take on bad contracts for draft picks. Hasn't happened yet.

Still, I wonder if the NHL would allow a seriously one-sided trade like that were a bad contract is basically sold for a draft pick.

you know, I'm surprised we don't see more of it, but much like the NFL "draft value chart" I think NHL teams will have a sort of "Draft Pick value Chart"

Like the Pens want to dump a 600k salary, What sort of pick would you have to give a team to eat that for you... 2nd round, 3rd round, 4th round?

If I were an owner/GM, it would definitely be a tool in my box for a rebuild

I might even ice an entire team of castoffs for a season or 2, just to load up on the draft picks. Teams are forced to spend 50 million anyways.....
- RoloTahmasee

I'm fairly certain they do have a chart. I can't recall but it might have been referenced in that behind the scenes video look-in on the Neal trade.

2 rebound goals from the bottom six. The Comeau goal was precisely the kind of goal Pittsburgh has been allowing and not replicating. It was very nice to see that one go in. Sundqvist has looked every bit the key depth player the Penguins have been missing since seemingly forever.

Kunitz has looked like he's ready for a third line role. Actually, he passed the puck very well but looked a touch unbalanced throughout the game.

Someone call the President and have him name Craig Adams the United States Ambassador to Brunei. Issue resolved.

2 rebound goals from the bottom six. The Comeau goal was precisely the kind of goal Pittsburgh has been allowing and not replicating. It was very nice to see that one go in. Sundqvist has looked every bit the key depth player the Penguins have been missing since seemingly forever.

Kunitz has looked like he's ready for a third line role. Actually, he passed the puck very well but looked a touch unbalanced throughout the game.

Someone call the President and have him name Craig Adams the United States Ambassador to Brunei. Issue resolved.
- Johnny Wrath

Even if he retires I think they're F'd

That over 35 rule is a mudderfudder....

2 rebound goals from the bottom six. The Comeau goal was precisely the kind of goal Pittsburgh has been allowing and not replicating. It was very nice to see that one go in. Sundqvist has looked every bit the key depth player the Penguins have been missing since seemingly forever.

Kunitz has looked like he's ready for a third line role. Actually, he passed the puck very well but looked a touch unbalanced throughout the game.

Someone call the President and have him name Craig Adams the United States Ambassador to Brunei. Issue resolved.
- Johnny Wrath

Beautiful rebound by Sundqvist. Loved it as a hockey fan, despised it as a Wings' fan.

2 rebound goals from the bottom six. The Comeau goal was precisely the kind of goal Pittsburgh has been allowing and not replicating. It was very nice to see that one go in. Sundqvist has looked every bit the key depth player the Penguins have been missing since seemingly forever.

Kunitz has looked like he's ready for a third line role. Actually, he passed the puck very well but looked a touch unbalanced throughout the game.

Someone call the President and have him name Craig Adams the United States Ambassador to Brunei. Issue resolved.
- Johnny Wrath

Love the guy but I agree. Kunitz unfortunately looks similar to how he did at the the end of last season....looks unbalanced, puck whiffing...

if Kunitz is not a sure fire, top line winger..then wow, how bad do we need help there?

Love the guy but I agree. Kunitz unfortunately looks similar to how he did at the the end of last season....looks unbalanced, puck whiffing...

if Kunitz is not a sure fire, top line winger..then wow, how bad do we need help there?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

On the bright side, Dupes is just as old and beat up!

A lot of regulars are filtering back in these days, but where as CPF been?

I don't know if this has been covered lately, but what's going on with Malkin?

I can't find much on it, and remember hearing yesterday that he's not even working out anymore. Any update on what's wrong with him? Was he working out at all this summer?

I don't know if this has been covered lately, but what's going on with Malkin?

I can't find much on it, and remember hearing yesterday that he's not even working out anymore. Any update on what's wrong with him? Was he working out at all this summer?
- YzermanIsTheMan

I have heard that he has been seen stretching with rubber bands and doing what is assumed to be some sort of upper body rehab. Other than that small bit of information I have heard they have been really tight lipped about whatever is going on.

I have heard that he has been seen stretching with rubber bands and doing what is assumed to be some sort of upper body rehab. Other than that small bit of information I have heard they have been really tight lipped about whatever is going on.
- nbartley9

I hope he is alright. Despite my vendetta with the Penguins, I love watching Malkin (Crosby, Erhoff, Letang, Fleury, definitely NOT Sutter) and it makes me worried that he's hurting a lot worse than is predicted.

Love the guy but I agree. Kunitz unfortunately looks similar to how he did at the the end of last season....looks unbalanced, puck whiffing...

if Kunitz is not a sure fire, top line winger..then wow, how bad do we need help there?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion too quick. Kunitz is a good player, but I don't think anyone would consider him a 1st line W without Crosby. And last night was Sid's first game back.

Kunitz had 68pts last year w/ 22pts coming on the PP. W/ Hornquvist possibly playing the same role on the PP, he may slide down to the 2nd PP which would considerably lower his total Pts. Still, if he can replicate ~45 pts on even strength, I'll be happy.

Lastly, I don't really think the Penguins need 1st line W's w/ Crosby and Malkin; they need solid 2nd line W's. They have two in Hornquvist and Kunitz; just need to find another two at the deadline or via UFA next offseason.

I hope he is alright. Despite my vendetta with the Penguins, I love watching Malkin (Crosby, Erhoff, Letang, Fleury, definitely NOT Sutter) and it makes me worried that he's hurting a lot worse than is predicted.
- YzermanIsTheMan

I really feel like im starting to get somewhere with the whole Sutter thing haha.



F Sutter

I have heard that he has been seen stretching with rubber bands and doing what is assumed to be some sort of upper body rehab. Other than that small bit of information I have heard they have been really tight lipped about whatever is going on.
- nbartley9

Didnt he previously have a shoulder injury earlier in his career? Thats the first thing I thought of when you mentioned the rubber bands and stretching.

Quick search and it looks like fall of 2009(Leclair) and another in spring of 2013(JVR). Not sure if they were both to the same shoulder though.

I really feel like im starting to get somewhere with the whole Sutter thing haha.



F Sutter
- nbartley9

You converted me.
F Sutter.

Edit: F Comeau too. Guy has it in for Jurco.

Love the guy but I agree. Kunitz unfortunately looks similar to how he did at the the end of last season....looks unbalanced, puck whiffing...

if Kunitz is not a sure fire, top line winger..then wow, how bad do we need help there?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Johnny wrath has been talking the demise of Kunitz since the end of last season. Apparently 35 g and 79 points ( carear year) is a
Sign of decline.... ??? So let's get this straight kunitz looks mediocre in a pre season game and he s ready for a third line role??? Wow talk about reading your own
Opinions into things ... If this is not" prophecy historisized" then I don't know what is!!!

Love the guy but I agree. Kunitz unfortunately looks similar to how he did at the the end of last season....looks unbalanced, puck whiffing...

if Kunitz is not a sure fire, top line winger..then wow, how bad do we need help there?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Johnny wrath has been talking the demise of Kunitz since the end of last season. Apparently 35 g and 79 points ( carear year) is a f
Sign of decline.... ??? So let's get this straight kunitz looks mediocre in a pre season game and he s ready for a third line role??? Wow talk about reading your own I
Opinions into things ... If this is not" prophecy historisized" then I don't know what is!!!

You converted me.
F Sutter.
- YzermanIsTheMan

Haha you very well maybe my favorite wings fan of all time. Last night while watching the game I realized how badly I miss Lidstrom, one of the classiest players of all time; if you like that sort of player.