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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 1 @ 1:47 PM ET
Cut this poop out.
- mykokes

Stop letting your special Ed kids out and free to roam the internet .
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 1 @ 1:47 PM ET


What's the matter Iggy? A little butthurt? No snappy comeback?

Maybe you can refer to the Toronto team as the "Laffs" again because that is so funny and original.

- Aetherial



Leafs fans are the ones all butt hurt. One mention of Kadri's propensity to dive and give out elbows and you all attack. Good times.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 1:47 PM ET
Laffs was actually funny the first few thousand or so times it was used 5 years ago.

Not as mush as Iggy.

- WaterBoy


fixed
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:47 PM ET
So we are looking for a few more proven/unproven guys?
- walshyleafsfan


Again, I said I didn't think it would happen only that there could be logic.

part of the crazy deal hinges on whether or not it is better to have two very good players and a good prospect or one great player and a better prospect. Many gms answer that question differently, especially based on the situation.

WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 1 @ 1:47 PM ET


Leafs fans are the ones all butt hurt. One mention of Kadri's propensity to dive and give out elbows and you all attack. Good times.

- Iggysbff

KAdri should captain the Habs.
JVR_42_PK81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.20.2014

Oct 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
then don't tell other people not to overvalue their players when you wouldn't trade a one-dimensional 60-point winger for the top pick in the draft.
- DoubleDown


JVR a first line left winger for a very weak number one pick. No thanks.
I wouldn't trade pacioretty for the number 1 pick either.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Oct 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
You need a separate budget line for Prep H these days?
- Aetherial

I like how he's defending MacT for not doing his job to the fullest extent in that post.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
fixed
- Aetherial

Oh no... it's still funny.

BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Oct 1 @ 1:50 PM ET


Leafs fans are the ones all butt hurt. One mention of Kadri's propensity to dive and give out elbows and you all attack. Good times.

- Iggysbff

Kadri does dive, he'll get dinged for it going forward if he doesn't change his ways. The two elbows he threw were dumb, and he accepted the consequences. Who's attacking?
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Oct 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
JVR a first line left winger for a very weak number one pick. No thanks.
I wouldn't trade pacioretty for the number 1 pick either.

- JVR_42_PK81

magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Oct 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Its the same situation. Lol. It was an obscure clause in the CBA that was missed by Calgary. Same with this one.

Mact admitted they and the agent read the first part of the clause and stopped reading after they believed he met the criteria. They missed the part later down when it said a full season in the chl.

You keep spouting when you don't have the info yourself.

True leafs fan.

- Iggysbff

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
Selective stat selection here and perhaps unfamiliarity with the Blues, at least giving you the benefit of the doubt.

The year you quote was Berglund's worst from a point per game stand point and considered a disappointment by all. It also ignores his role change for last year.

Look at the full ice time picture, not just TOI. Kadri had almost 1 minute more per game on the PP and a minute and a half more of even strength time. As a result, he had 2 and a half minutes of advantaged ice time (based on sheer amount of players on the ice and ignoring line mates). Again, this is a sheer numbers advantage in that he played two and a half minutes more with one less person to defend against him and his teammates. Said another way, almost 16% of Berglund's TOI was at a disadvantage in players on the ice compared to Kadri.

Who did Kardi play with on the PP? Kessell? Lupul? JVR? As far as power play line mates, those are a lot better than Oshie, Backes and Steen. Who did Kadri have on his even strength wing? Kadri with Lupul seems better than Berglund with Roy for example.

- stljam


All your blabbering on aside, do you actually believe the Leafs would be smart to trade Berglund for Kadri?
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Oct 1 @ 1:53 PM ET


Leafs fans are the ones all butt hurt. One mention of Kadri's propensity to dive and give out elbows and you all attack. Good times.

- Iggysbff

He's just not that strong on his skates. He's gotten better since his first season though.
1theNex
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.25.2013

Oct 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
Its the same situation. Lol. It was an obscure clause in the CBA that was missed by Calgary. Same with this one.

Mact admitted they and the agent read the first part of the clause and stopped reading after they believed he met the criteria. They missed the part later down when it said a full season in the chl.

You keep spouting when you don't have the info yourself.

True leafs fan.

- Iggysbff


huh? again with the leaf fan stuff and what information are you talking about?
is this the only thing you have to say really? your the one that brought up feaster and to tell you the truth i think that situation was more to screw over the avs then actually trying to sign ror but that's another story. come one kid just accept the fact mact really screwed the pooch here and he deserve all the hate he gets right now



Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 1 @ 1:54 PM ET

- magmoo



Yeah I know I shouldn't lump you all together. Some good ones for sure but man there seem to be a lot of delusional leafs fans.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Oct 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
JVR and 8th overall for the first was the deal. And I wouldn't do JVR for Ekblad anyways.
- JVR_42_PK81


I wouldn't trade JVR for the Ekblad or anyone in that draft. He's a second overall pick with huge upside.
howie feltersnatch
Location: Why am I here??, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
I know several ice girls
- Eklund


I am guessing this is just one of your rumors that never came to happen.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:56 PM ET


Yeah I know I shouldn't lump you all together. Some good ones for sure but man there seem to be a lot of delusional leafs fans.

- Iggysbff


Feel free to identify them.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Oct 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
I wouldn't trade JVR for the Ekblad or anyone in that draft. He's a second overall pick with huge upside.
- HealthyScratch6

Wow, now that's saying something.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
Oh no... it's still funny.
- WaterBoy


Well so is the Canadiens toilet bowl logo, but I didn't make it up, 10 years ago, so it really wouldn't be too impressive to make it part of my daily schtick.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
All your blabbering on aside, do you actually believe the Leafs would be smart to trade Berglund for Kadri?
- prock


IMO, it would be as smart a trade as Steen for Stempniak.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
Ok, lets go with the season before....
GP G A PTS +/- ATOI
Kadri '12-'13 TOR 48 18 26 44 15 16:03
Berglund 12-13STL 48 17 8 25 -2 16:50

And I know who Berglund is, and i know how the Blues deploy their lines. I'm a Leaf fan sure, but that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with whats going on around the NHL, including your team.

- mykokes


The season before Kadri had 1:40 a game more with one less opponent on the ice and Berglund had one less goal in the same number of games.

Again, my whole premise was that it was a starting point. Rattie and Berglund for Kadri is a big overpayment, one the Blues don't need thanks to signing Stastny and Lehtera. Of course that all changes, if a 2nd in 2015 is coming back with Kadri.
1theNex
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.25.2013

Oct 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
Well so is the Canadiens toilet bowl logo, but I didn't make it up, 10 years ago, so it really wouldn't be too impressive to make it part of my daily schtick.
- Aetherial



ouch not trying to start a flame war with the Canadian fans but that's kinda funny as well
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Oct 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
I wouldn't trade JVR for the Ekblad or anyone in that draft. He's a second overall pick with huge upside.
- HealthyScratch6


To me its a little like Jeff Carter for Jay Bouwmeester.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
Wow, now that's saying something.
- MnGump


Fair enough, but who in the past draft would you trade JVR for?

Obviously, there might be players that end up being better, but it is a pretty big risk to take.
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