Holly poopsnacks.......where are all of these random Oiler fans coming from?

we don't want Lu's contract. At all
Hillier wouldve cost much more, and probably wasn't available anyways.
I have no solid faith that halak is unequivocally better than either of our guys. Miller doesn't wanna play in EDm. Neuvirth isn't better than either of our guys
- hugefemale dog77

That list kind of sucks. There are so many reasons that those guys are/were available that I'm glad we didn't go there.

Holly poopsnacks.......where are all of these random Oiler fans coming from?
- ChetManly

Good to see most of them, it had been a while.

Good to see most of them, it had been a while.
- Jeropotato

they should come around more often.

they should come around more often.
- ChetManly

At worst we could use some more fodder to keep us sharp for the inevitable troll battles we'll have to prepare for.

Holly poopsnacks.......where are all of these random Oiler fans coming from?
- ChetManly

Troll blogs bring em all on

you can put as much lipstick on this pig as you want but at the end of the day, it's still a pig. the only other GM we know even willing to go to MacTavish's heights on Clarkson was Nonis, who is easily one of the 5 worst GMs in hockey. so if you're dropping MacT into the same boat, that's a pretty bad start. coming into UFA, yes, Clarkson had scored 15 goals in 48. but anyone watching closely knew that he had scored 9 goals in his first 10 games and then 6 in the last 38. he was a career 15-goal 30-point player (the kind of player you should be able to pick up on the scrap heap for $2 million) that went off for a 90-game stretch and scored about 40 goals. smart teams recognized this and saw Clarkson for what he was. sorry, but MacT doesn't get a free pass just because there's another GM out there as dumb as him.
- DoubleDown

So much stupidity in such a short time. Where to begin? Clarkson was a career 30 point player? Fairly accurate for his first 4 years in the NHL, then he almost doubled that for the next 2 years. It's almost as though he had made a big step forward in his game, like all hockey players are expected to do. Those who don't tend to have very short careers in the NHL.

Assuming that everybody knew that he was going to regress, and NOBODY did... you went on to suggest that a fifteen goal scorer could be had at free agency for $2.0 million. Probably accurate about 20 years ago. Bolland has never hit 20 goals in a season, averages about 37 points. He got $5.5 million this summer. Lehtera has never played an NHL game, barely scored at your suggested level in the KHL and he got $2.75 million. Hemsky, who hasn't even hit the 15 goal level since 2008/09 is getting $4.0 million. These contracts aren't cherry-picked, they are the current standard in the NHL.

You make an idiotic statement and back it up with "facts" that are pure fantasy. Never change, you make everybody else look better by comparison.

Craig MacTavish is the new Jeff Feester?

Yeah you have things a little out of place and you are missing things. I think MacT's need for size has left us a center short. He shipped off a guy that he said he wish he had more of in the dressing room, our second line center, because he was small and grabbed us a third line winger at roughly the same salary. Now we are deciding which non NHL ready player to put in that spot.

There was also his need to sign a ton of 7th position dmen and guys like Omark to contracts last year when most teams would have just offered him a try out. I know people can try to justify that but it was ridiculous.

Smid, no matter what his potential is, he was the only dman we had with any grit and we traded him for a goalie prospect that will probably never play in the NHL when Dmen are at a premium.

Hiring and worse, keeping Eakins is a big one. He replaced a coach that did better and was let go after only 48 games. A coach that is the reason we were able to sign Justin. Now Schultz's future or potential is up in the air but he is still the first UFA we have been able to win out on in a LONG time.

MacT is not our worst GM ever (Tamb was pretty bad) however he is one of the worst in the league.

Also Holik's contract with NYR had to be the worst of all time.
- Hall Fan

Gagner; redundant and not helping us win. He wasn't even gonna play centre this year for us. We're deeper and got more of what we need with purcells size.
In oiler terms Purcell > Gagner. U talk as if we were totally fine in forward/winger depth and didn't need that as well. Yes, it woulda been nice to fill 2 holes with gags, but he didn't have a lot value.

Smid; overpaid and Mact got himself out of the contract. And got a solid goalie prospect coming back. Something we had none of. Smid wasn't helping us win games. Nikitins roughly the same guy, but has some puck moving abilities as well.
Brossoit and nikitin >>>>>>> Smid

Uve mentioned the experiment on cheap dmen ad nauseum. I think we can all agree it was a failed experiment. But it didn't cost anything long term and we kept all our prospects. and who's to say there was a solid one even available? " u want our 2nd pairing guy?" Eberle....

Krueger was the reason we were able to sign Schultz?? How do u know? U talk to justin? U cant use opinion as fact. I thought it was because he had hall of famers in his ear convincing him. as well as a easy shot at big minutes outta the gate.

Eakins wasn't the first rookie coach to be hired. They were all rookies at one point. It's an easy blame/answer to a much deeper question.

Those of you who truly think Mact is doing a bad job, just don't get it. U don't see the big picture and clearly don't see his vision for the club and the constraints he has to work with. Mact is absolutely the right guy for the job

Gagner; redundant and not helping us win. He wasn't even gonna play centre this year for us. We're deeper and got more of what we need with purcells size.
In oiler terms Purcell > Gagner. U talk as if we were totally fine in forward/winger depth and didn't need that as well. Yes, it woulda been nice to fill 2 holes with gags, but he didn't have a lot value.

Smid; overpaid and Mact got himself out of the contract. And got a solid goalie prospect coming back. Something we had none of. Smid wasn't helping us win games. Nikitins roughly the same guy, but has some puck moving abilities as well.
Brossoit and nikitin >>>>>>> Smid

Uve mentioned the experiment on cheap men ad nauseum. I think we c an all agree it was a failed experiment. But it didn't cost anything long term and we kept all our prospects, and who's to say there was a solid one even available? " u want our 2nd pairing guy?" Eberle....

Krueger was the reason we were able to sign Schultz?? How do u know? U talk to justin? U can use opinion as fact. I thought it was because he had hall of gamers in his ear convincing him as well as a easy shot at big minutes outta the gate.

Eakins wasn't the first rookie coach to be hired. They were all rookies at one point. It's an easy blame/answer to a much deeper question.

Those of you who truly think Mact is doing a bad job, just don't get it. U don't see the big picture and clearly don't see his vision for the club and the constraints he has to work with. Mact is absolutely the right guy for the job
- hugefemale dog77

Would you mind articulating his vision for the club?

Gagner; redundant and not helping us win. He wasn't even gonna play centre this year for us. We're deeper and got more of what we need with purcells size.
In oiler terms Purcell > Gagner. U talk as if we were totally fine in forward/winger depth and didn't need that as well. Yes, it woulda been nice to fill 2 holes with gags, but he didn't have a lot value.

Smid; overpaid and Mact got himself out of the contract. And got a solid goalie prospect coming back. Something we had none of. Smid wasn't helping us win games. Nikitins roughly the same guy, but has some puck moving abilities as well.
Brossoit and nikitin >>>>>>> Smid

Uve mentioned the experiment on cheap men ad nauseum. I think we c an all agree it was a failed experiment. But it didn't cost anything long term and we kept all our prospects, and who's to say there was a solid one even available? " u want our 2nd pairing guy?" Eberle....

Krueger was the reason we were able to sign Schultz?? How do u know? U talk to justin? U can use opinion as fact. I thought it was because he had hall of gamers in his ear convincing him as well as a easy shot at big minutes outta the gate.

Eakins wasn't the first rookie coach to be hired. They were all rookies at one point. It's an easy blame/answer to a much deeper question.

Those of you who truly think Mact is doing a bad job, just don't get it. U don't see the big picture and clearly don't see his vision for the club and the constraints he has to work with. Mact is absolutely the right guy for the job
- hugefemale dog77

WTF?

if anything that's an advantage for the Oilers. (see Clarkson, David)
it's not a crutch...
- DoubleDown

Not being able to sign grade a free agents is a plus?
Being on the list of no trade destinations for any star that signs a NYC is good?
Mact is one of the 5 worst gm's in the game in just over a year of making this club far better?
All this cause an assistant forgot to read some cba fine print about a talented Russian midget that'll be around in the 4th or 5th round?


It takes less than nothing to bring out the army of stupid on hockeybuzz. Thanks garner

WTF?
- Lahey

What's the problem pumpkin?

Did I forget an apostrophe somewhere?

Not being able to sign grade a free agents is a plus?
Being on the list of no trade destinations for any star that signs a NYC is good?
Mact is one of the 5 worst gm's in the game in just over a year of making this club far better?
All this cause an assistant forgot to read some cba fine print about a talented Russian midget that'll be around in the 4th or 5th round?


It takes less than nothing to bring out the army of stupid on hockeybuzz. Thanks garner
- hugefemale dog77

Shouldn't they play some games before this gets stated as fact?

What's the problem pumpkin?

Did I forget an apostrophe somewhere?
- hugefemale dog77

Well you know I don't read posts that long, but the shift key and enter button were working for you.

Would you mind articulating his vision for the club?
- 1979AD

K

stopgap 2c or top pairing dman, the retort is; nuge or Ebs etc.
He's trying to build around the core in place, not through them if at all possible.
He's added much needed size and some two way play up front. Let's not forget the undesirability of EDm location at that they've bee bottom feeders. (One genious said being on no trade lists was a good thing)
and he clearly wants nurse, klefbom to be the mainstays on the backend, but this takes time. He tried to stopgap it with some cheap options last year and that was a miserable failure, so he spent some money this year (short term) to provide some nhl quality help. Clearly he knows the team needs to take a step forward, even if isn't quite ready, nor has the pieces available yet.
We could literally go on for ages, but it's exhausting. Watch his interviews. He's close to the vest, but fairly transparent in a lot of ways. An articulate guy that has a tough task. He'll get er done

Well you know I don't read posts that long, but the shift key and enter button were working for you.
- Lahey

My girls iPad has changed my life

Morning Oilers fans. Must say it's way too (frank)ing hot out for October 1st.

K

stopgap 2c or top pairing dman, the retort is; nuge or Ebs etc.
He's trying to build around the core in place, not through them if at all possible.
He's added much needed size and some two way play up front. Let's not forget the undesirability of EDm location at that they've bee bottom feeders. (One genious said being on no trade lists was a good thing)
and he clearly wants nurse, klefbom to be the mainstays on the backend, but this takes time. He tried to stopgap it with some cheap options last year and that was a miserable failure, so he spent some money this year (short term) to provide some nhl quality help. Clearly he knows the team needs to take a step forward, even if isn't quite ready, nor has the pieces available yet.
We could literally go on for ages, but it's exhausting. Watch his interviews. He's close to the vest, but fairly transparent in a lot of ways. An articulate guy that has a tough task. He'll get er done
- hugefemale dog77

Yeah there is no quick fix to this team. All he can do is add pieces to support the younger players, and that's all he's done. The Jabronis out there that think Mac T needs to trade Hall, Nuge, Ebs or Yak for a top pair D-Man fail to realize that it leaves a massive hole up front, not to mention that those quick fix players on the back end are currently unavailable.

Shouldn't they play some games before this gets stated as fact?
- 1979AD

They already did. Fasth and scrivens for a couple 4ths made us better than with dubnyk period. This team was totally different in the second half of last season.

And why do we need to play games to say this? There's no possibility outside losing every key player to injury that we'll be worse.
How much better or how big a step can we take is up for debate of course, but not that we're bigger, deeper, more mature and have a better defence.

Morning Oilers fans. Must say it's way too (frank)ing hot out for October 1st.
- YzermanIsTheMan

How hot is it down in the ol' bible belt of inbred folk?

Yeah there is no quick fix to this team. All he can do is add pieces to support the younger players, and that's all he's done. The Jabronis out there that think Mac T needs to trade Hall, Nuge, Ebs or Yak for a top pair D-Man fail to realize that it leaves a massive hole up front, not to mention that those quick fix players on the back end are currently unavailable.
- Jeropotato

Oh yes. "The big trade" that is the answer to all our problems. Of course

Shouldn't they play some games before this gets stated as fact?
- 1979AD

They have, not to mention it looks better on paper alone.

Oh yes. "The big trade" that is the answer to all our problems. Of course
- hugefemale dog77

How could we forget? Let alone get any decent return for one of our core players.....

Not being able to sign grade a free agents is a plus?
Being on the list of no trade destinations for any star that signs an Ntc is good?
Mact is one of the 5 worst gm's in the game in just over a year of making this club far better?
All this cause an assistant forgot to read some cba fine print about a talented Russian midget that'll be around in the 4th or 5th round?


It takes less than nothing to bring out the army of stupid on hockeybuzz. Thanks garner
- hugefemale dog77