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Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 30 @ 7:56 PM ET
Not Feaster level stupid, but stupid enough that the league should have stepped in when they signed that PTO contract. The Oilers could have had someone else at camp, and not showcased the little (frank)er for the other 29 teams.
- Jeropotato



This is a very good point.....FK'd up situation...
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Sep 30 @ 8:00 PM ET
(frank)ity (frank). Dumb (frank)ing rule
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 30 @ 8:00 PM ET
(frank)ity (frank). Dumb (frank)ing rule
- TheNugeIsHuge


Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
More detail RT @sk84fun_dc see CBA 8.9 sections ii & iv ; #Caps fans know issue due to Nathan Walker situation a year ago
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 30 @ 8:04 PM ET
It's getting pretty close. Sign a guy and bring him to camp then sign him only to find he's not eligible to sign.
- Yeti1181


What kind of incompetence exists at the league office? I'm sorry but there should be something that protects the teams from misinterpretations of rules. The NHL works for the teams, why not protect their best interests? I'm still shocked that the ROR situation with Calgary got to where it did. I fully expected someone at the league to look over the contract and made a quick "Are you sure you want to do this?" call to Feaster.
This situation is no different.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Sep 30 @ 8:06 PM ET
Tkachev day in Edmonton!!
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 30 @ 8:07 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
More detail RT @sk84fun_dc see CBA 8.9 sections ii & iv ; #Caps fans know issue due to Nathan Walker situation a year ago

- Fruitcakenipple


Does anyone have a link to the CBA?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 30 @ 8:07 PM ET
What kind of incompetence exists at the league office? I'm sorry but there should be something that protects the teams from misinterpretations of rules. The NHL works for the teams, why not protect their best interests? I'm still shocked that the ROR situation with Calgary got to where it did. I fully expected someone at the league to look over the contract and made a quick "Are you sure you want to do this?" call to Feaster.
This situation is no different.

- Jeropotato

I don't think it should be the league that has to monitor this. The GM and management team gets paid millions to know their poop and figure out ways around the CBA I'm sure one of them can at least figure how to follow the CBA.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 30 @ 8:08 PM ET
Tkachev day in Edmonton!!
- ClarksonDavid

I heard a water bottle just got ran over.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Sep 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
Congrats Oilers, solid signing, still surprised the Blues didn't go for him considering they have Barbashev.
- AdamFrench


We still might.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 30 @ 8:10 PM ET
I heard a water bottle just got ran over.
- Yeti1181


doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Sep 30 @ 8:11 PM ET
I don't think it should be the league that has to monitor this. The GM and management team gets paid millions to know their poop and figure out ways around the CBA I'm sure one of them can at least figure how to follow the CBA.
- Yeti1181

I agree. You would think they would have lawyers to help the Management out.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Sep 30 @ 8:11 PM ET
I heard a water bottle just got ran over.
- Yeti1181

where
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Sep 30 @ 8:12 PM ET
Does anyone have a link to the CBA?
- Jeropotato


Haven't personally read the relevant parts, but here is a link:

http://cdn.agilitycms.com...DF/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 8:12 PM ET
[quote=laughs2907]
Yes
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 30 @ 8:12 PM ET
http://www.nhlpa.com/insi...tive-bargaining-agreement

(frank). I downloaded the CBA and read it. It's because he didn't play a full in North America, if I read it right. Pages 21 and 22 if their is a lawyer out there.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 30 @ 8:12 PM ET
where
- ClarksonDavid

Afghanistan, you better hurry.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 30 @ 8:14 PM ET
I agree. You would think they would have lawyers to help the Management out.
- doon

Yep.

How you been? Haven't seen you around here for a while.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 30 @ 8:14 PM ET
8.9 Eligibility for Play in the League. No Player shall be eligible for play in the League unless he:
(a) had been claimed in the last Entry Draft, or was ineligible for claim under Section
8.4; or
(b) had been eligible for claim in the last Entry Draft, but was unclaimed, and:

(i) had played hockey in North America the prior season and was age 20 or older at the time of the last Entry Draft, and signed an SPC which was signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft and commencement of the next NHL Season.
(ii) had played hockey in North America the prior season and was under age 20 at the time of the last Entry Draft, and signed an SPC which was signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft and commencement of the Major Juniors season (except that if such Player had signed an NHL try-out form, which was signed and registered with the League during the aforesaid time period, then the deadline for signing and registering with the League an SPC with such try-out Club shall be the commencement of the NHL Season).
(iii) had played hockey outside of North America in the prior season and was age 22 or older at the time of the last Entry Draft and signed an SPC which was signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft and the commencement of the next NHL Season.
(iv) The words "eligible for claim in the last Entry Draft" in subparagraph (b) above mean "eligible for claim in all rounds of the last Entry Draft." The words "the prior season" in subparagraph (i), (ii) and (iii) above mean "a full season prior to the last Entry Draft."
8.10 Age of Players. As used in this Article, "age 18" means a Player reaching his eighteenth birthday between January 1 next preceding the Entry Draft and September 15 next following the Entry Draft, both dates included; "age 19" means a Player reaching his nineteenth birthday by no later than September 15 in the calendar year of the Entry Draft; "age 20" means a Player reaching his twentieth birthday by no later than December 31 in the calendar year of the Entry Draft; "age 21" means a Player reaching his twenty-first birthday by December 31 in the calendar year of the Entry Draft; and "age 22" means a Player reaching his twenty-second birthday by December 31 in the calendar year of the Entry Draft.
8.11 NHLPA Meeting at Pre-Draft Combine. In the event that the NHL schedules a combine or any other event involving undrafted hockey Players, the NHLPA shall be entitled to attend and hold a private and closed meeting of those Players.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 30 @ 8:15 PM ET
I agree. You would think they would have lawyers to help the Management out.
- doon


Bullsh!t. The League works for the team. If they see something funny they should notify. Do you not think the union does that for the agents?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 30 @ 8:16 PM ET
8.9 Eligibility for Play in the League. No Player shall be eligible for play in the League unless he:
(a) had been claimed in the last Entry Draft, or was ineligible for claim under Section
8.4; or
(b) had been eligible for claim in the last Entry Draft, but was unclaimed, and:

(i) had played hockey in North America the prior season and was age 20 or older at the time of the last Entry Draft, and signed an SPC which was signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft and commencement of the next NHL Season.
(ii) had played hockey in North America the prior season and was under age 20 at the time of the last Entry Draft, and signed an SPC which was signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft and commencement of the Major Juniors season (except that if such Player had signed an NHL try-out form, which was signed and registered with the League during the aforesaid time period, then the deadline for signing and registering with the League an SPC with such try-out Club shall be the commencement of the NHL Season).
(iii) had played hockey outside of North America in the prior season and was age 22 or older at the time of the last Entry Draft and signed an SPC which was signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft and the commencement of the next NHL Season.
(iv) The words "eligible for claim in the last Entry Draft" in subparagraph (b) above mean "eligible for claim in all rounds of the last Entry Draft." The words "the prior season" in subparagraph (i), (ii) and (iii) above mean "a full season prior to the last Entry Draft."
8.10 Age of Players. As used in this Article, "age 18" means a Player reaching his eighteenth birthday between January 1 next preceding the Entry Draft and September 15 next following the Entry Draft, both dates included; "age 19" means a Player reaching his nineteenth birthday by no later than September 15 in the calendar year of the Entry Draft; "age 20" means a Player reaching his twentieth birthday by no later than December 31 in the calendar year of the Entry Draft; "age 21" means a Player reaching his twenty-first birthday by December 31 in the calendar year of the Entry Draft; and "age 22" means a Player reaching his twenty-second birthday by December 31 in the calendar year of the Entry Draft.
8.11 NHLPA Meeting at Pre-Draft Combine. In the event that the NHL schedules a combine or any other event involving undrafted hockey Players, the NHLPA shall be entitled to attend and hold a private and closed meeting of those Players.

- Jeropotato

I'm not even going to try and understand the lawyer talk.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Sep 30 @ 8:17 PM ET
Yep.

How you been? Haven't seen you around here for a while.

- Yeti1181

Good. Took all summer off, back to reality. Sucks.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Sep 30 @ 8:19 PM ET
Bullsh!t. The League works for the team. If they see something funny they should notify. Do you not think the union does that for the agents?
- Jeropotato

No excuse for management to make mistakes like this.
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

Sep 30 @ 8:19 PM ET
Can't wait for the him to get drafted by someone else and have a good career
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 8:19 PM ET
was zum Teufel ..... ich bin so verdammt sauer .... ficken der NHL .... das ist verdammt Scheiße ...
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 30 @ 8:19 PM ET
Bullsh!t. The League works for the team. If they see something funny they should notify. Do you not think the union does that for the agents?
- Jeropotato

The league is there to monitor the Gms and the teams to enforce rules the union is in place to make sure players get the best deals from the leagues..
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