but it is a stat....
- Streit2ThePoint

step on the ice for 2 seconds and it can count on for or against you, seems like a sound measuring stick to describe defensive play

step on the ice for 2 seconds and it can count on for or against you, seems like a sound measuring stick to describe defensive play
- DDM-Coga

a lot can happen in 2 seconds

Not all of a sudden.....ROR's defensive acumen has been well stated for the past few seasons....where the fck have you been?

Also, youre the uninformed Jabroni who said ROR "Does Nothing" defensively. Have you ever actually seen him play or are you talking out of your rectum?
- Jeropotato

+/- is such an informative stat. It really tells the whole story.

Try again "Clown".
- Jeropotato

Listen bud, its a stat, playing on a top line or not.
Just an FYI I think 1 year Moulson was up for voting as a Selke nominee and boy he sucked defensively, go ask any other isle fan...

So any misleading stat becomes unaccounted for, gotcha, now we are all changing the dynamics of hockey.

How does one confuse Reilly Smith with Ryan O'Reilly?

step on the ice for 2 seconds and it can count on for or against you, seems like a sound measuring stick to describe defensive play
- DDM-Coga

Ahhh ur best work is mentioned.......



U def win now!!!!!

Ahhh ur best work is mentioned.......



U def win now!!!!!
- Ur Not Me

its based on team play not on the individual defensive ability of the player, how do you not get that.

its based on team play not on the individual defensive ability of the player, how do you not get that.
- DDM-Coga

I've always wondered who that guy in your avatar is

I've always wondered who that guy in your avatar is
- Vukota

adam deadmarsh managemnt photo with the avs

adam deadmarsh managemnt photo with the avs
- DDM-Coga

He got fat

adam deadmarsh managemnt photo with the avs
- DDM-Coga

Listen bud, its a stat, playing on a top line or not.
Just an FYI I think 1 year Moulson was up for voting as a Selke nominee and boy he sucked defensively, go ask any other isle fan...

So any misleading stat becomes unaccounted for, gotcha, now we are all changing the dynamics of hockey. :thumbsup:
- Ur Not Me

When it comes to analyzing Stats....yes,the dynamic has changed. Where have you been all summer? Are you the last hockey fan on earth that can't see that the entire hockey world has moved on from +/-, and completely disregard it as the most useless, tell nothing Stat in the game?

He got fat
- Vukota

dunkin donuts is his new gym

Isn't ROR a center? We have enough (frank)ing centers
- glove_was_stuck

Can never have enough of anything

a lot can happen in 2 seconds
- Streit2ThePoint

you skipped the foreplay again didn't you?

He got fat
- Vukota

Holiday weight at the most

dunkin donuts is his new gym
- Flyfreaky

lot of reps there.

Holiday weight at the most

- DDM-Coga

Jesus!! That looks fake

Can never have enough of anything
- Shenanigans20

Apparently not having any wings will win cups then

Jesus!! That looks fake
- Vukota

damn

a lot can happen in 2 seconds
- Streit2ThePoint

Just ask your grfr?

its based on team play not on the individual defensive ability of the player, how do you not get that.
- DDM-Coga

I will actually say it may be valid to point out that the Avs were +30 as a team last year and only four players on the roster finished with with a worse +/- last year.

Of course factors like quality of opponent comes into play, but that is still rather glaring

Jesus!! That looks fake
- Vukota

you can fake those satellite ears of his, he finally just filled into them.
He was one of my fav players back in the day,

Just ask your grfr?
- gzatron

Just ask your grfr?
- gzatron