Well then I'm just glad you're here to show us the ropes.
- jackzack87

Stay in Fluffalo jackzack87 If you can't say anything nice don't say anything and frank off

Sam Ganger a "Star" in the NHL ?
Only way this happens, is if he plays for Dallas.. BAAZINNGAA!!

And when are we moving?
- laughs2907

I'll check with the boss

Sam Ganger a "Star" in the NHL ?
Only way this happens, is if he plays for Dallas.. BAAZINNGAA!!
- Erik6Karlsson5

Not at all, I am just pointing out that a talented kid who is still 25 and has demonstrably and inarguably faced some trying circumstances and bad luck stands a good chance of breaking out.

I don't say he will.

I say I think he might.

I also think it's ridiculous for someone to say 70 points is out of the question when he got 50 as a rookie. 25 is still a prime age to put it all together. I fully acknowledge in the article that this is getting more unlikely by the year.

BUT the responses have been caustic and for the most part, extremely rude and condescending. If you look at all the information, and conclude he maxes out at 50 points - considering he has basically done that every year of his career as his career point per game average multiplied by 82 is exactly 50 - then that is possibly more ridiculous than my 70 prediction.

I mean, all signs point to the situation in AZ being better for him. And he did 50 points as a rookie. To think call a prediction of 70- with a fully explicit list of caveats - "homerish" or a "troll blog" is frankly one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard in my life.

Seems more likely that he would improve on his 50 point rookie season if he had a fully healthy season with better ice time at 25 than that he wouldn't.
- James_Tanner

Agreed. Although I am sure there are some exceptions, the idea that it is unlikely that during his prime years, a player will not exceed his points total as an 18/19-year old does not pass the smell test.

I'll check with the boss
- LeftCoaster

I made the move here recently.

Just happened to be the place the boss grew up.

Sam Ganger a "Star" in the NHL ?
Only way this happens, is if he plays for Dallas.. BAAZINNGAA!!
- Erik6Karlsson5

Gagner

Gagner, Gagner, Gagner, Gagner, Gagner, Gagner.

When Arizona traded for him, there were a lot of teams with cap space. What only giving up a 6th round pick tells you is that no other GM in the league thought he was worth anything more. Reason being: he is a fringe NHL player. He needs to be in the top 6 to be effective, and isn't good enough for the top 6 of teams with legitimate NHL forwards. Been years since he showed he was still developing, no reason to think he is going to start now.
- Antilles

This. He's a top 6 player bad teams have

Surround him with some big wingers that are defensively sound and he can be effective.

Great hands, and a ton of character. But a poor skater, especially for someone of his size.. They can list him at whatever they want, but he's dwarved by anyone with real size. And easily pushed around.


He can be an effective 50+ point guy in the right situation. But he'll never be a star

This. He's a top 6 player bad teams have
- sbroads24

JT, I like the blog...again! Informative and surrounded your reasoning quite well...again! A sixth round pick for Gagner is a no-brainer for a team not up against the cap. Hanzal, Vermette, Vitale, Gagner, Domi, Chipchura gives the team much needed flexibility in filling out the wingers as well as a decent middle.

Surround him with some big wingers that are defensively sound and he can be effective.

Great hands, and a ton of character. But a poor skater, especially for someone of his size.. They can list him at whatever they want, but he's dwarved by anyone with real size. And easily pushed around.


He can be an effective 50+ point guy in the right situation. But he'll never be a star
- hugefemale dog77

Yeah.

Although he has worked on his skating. And I wouldn't be surprised if the change of situation helped him. I guess it was win-win-win for all involved.

James could you please define "star" for me and the rest of HB.

Yeah.

Although he has worked on his skating. And I wouldn't be surprised if the change of situation helped him. I guess it was win-win-win for all involved.
- Morris

I know we have differing opinions on gags, but we both can admit the positives and the negatives that gags clearly possesses.

And it was a good trade for everyone involved. If they surround him with the right guys he can be a solid 2c

Yeah, the experts were such idiots for not predicting he would get a broken face. A rookie scores 49 points, then goes on to be plagued by injuries, has 17 different coaches and plays for one of the worst teams in decades. but during all this, does manage to put up a fairly constant 40 points. I would love to hear you explain how this is not bad luck without looking foolish.
- James_Tanner

Shut up. Your wrong.

That is so unfair.

If you read what I say, I fully acknowledge the negatives. And I don`t claim hes going to be a star, just that he has more to offer. Obviously Don Maloney thinks so.

I don`t think it`s homerish to say a guy who hasn`t had one full 82 game season, who clearly has talent, and who is getting a fresh start stands a chance to finally succeed.

I even write the odds are against it happening.

This guy has - with everything going wrong for him - put up a constant 50 points. How is it a bad thing to think that if things go right for him, if he`s in a new situation that might be positive for him, that he could do better.
I hated french in school!

Also, I know that last sentence should end with a question mark, but I have suddenly turned my keyboard into a french keyboard and dont know how to get it back and all the buttons are now different.
- James_Tanner

Shut up. Your wrong.
- edmhatescal

His wrong what?

That is so unfair.

If you read what I say, I fully acknowledge the negatives. And I don`t claim hes going to be a star, just that he has more to offer. Obviously Don Maloney thinks so.

I don`t think it`s homerish to say a guy who hasn`t had one full 82 game season, who clearly has talent, and who is getting a fresh start stands a chance to finally succeed.

I even write the odds are against it happening.

This guy has - with everything going wrong for him - put up a constant 50 points. How is it a bad thing to think that if things go right for him, if he`s in a new situation that might be positive for him, that he could do better.

Also, I know that last sentence should end with a question mark, but I have suddenly turned my keyboard into a french keyboard and dont know how to get it back and all the buttons are now different.
- James_Tanner

You do realize that he's actually Never done that....right?

With that said, for a 6th rounder I think it's a good pickup if even just to test the "fresh start" theory.

Stay in Fluffalo jackzack87 If you can't say anything nice don't say anything and frank off
- flyerdude17

Fliladelphia......slam, got you so good

Agreed. Although I am sure there are some exceptions, the idea that it is unlikely that during his prime years, a player will not exceed his points total as an 18/19-year old does not pass the smell test.
- Tumbleweed

How doesn't it pass any test. Your paragraph is a contradiction. Stop smokin' n' postin'!

James Tanner: Sam Gagner
Profiling new Coyotes Sam Gagner
- James_Tanner

You can keep saying it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again but it doesn't make it true. Still, I like Samwise and hope he does well.

How doesn't it pass any test. Your paragraph is a contradiction. Stop smokin' n' postin'!
- Topshelf Mountain

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Oh you thieving whore!!!!!

Well then I'm just glad you're here to show us the ropes.
- jackzack87

Dude you should totally replace Tanner. You're so funny, witty, and full of insight.

I'm sure you'd have no problem writing daily blogs about the Yotes in the dead of summer, and face your critics after you write a blog everyone disagrees with.

Oops my bad, i thought your username was Travis Yost.

I take back what I said, quit being a gutless jerkoff and don't read his blogs if you think he's so bad.

Half Tanners poop is far fetched and lame, but atleast he gives this fanbase something to tune into, and is willing to burn alive trying to put the fire out. And for as much as people like you talk poop, he tends to keep it together, and dish it back quite real.
Half the bloggers never comment on the board, and the other half just beg mods to get you banned if you disagree.

So lay off unless youre ready to take his place.

just my unbiased opinion

Dude you should totally replace Tanner. You're so funny, witty, and full of insight.

I'm sure you'd have no problem writing daily blogs about the Yotes in the dead of summer, and face your critics after you write a blog everyone disagrees with.

Oops my bad, i thought your username was Travis Yost.

I take back what I said, quit being a gutless jerkoff and don't read his blogs if you think he's so bad.

Half Tanners poop is far fetched and lame, but atleast he gives this fanbase something to tune into, and is willing to burn alive trying to put the fire out. And for as much as people like you talk poop, he tends to keep it together, and dish it back quite real.
Half the bloggers never comment on the board, and the other half just beg mods to get you banned if you disagree.

So lay off unless youre ready to take his place.

just my unbiased opinion
- IRON.MAIDEN

Good post.....but it is fun to rip on Tanner.

Oh you thieving whore!!!!!
- Jeropotato

Imitation something something flattery