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- TheJerseyDevil1

Colorado's is better.
- DoubleDown

Younger yes. Proven? NO

Andrew MacFartald - Braydon Coburn
Nicklas Grossmann - Mark Streit
Michael Del Zotto - Luke Schenn
Brandon Manning - Nick Schultz

staring at that list makes me think that attaining last place is a reality
- Flyfreaky

Fixed

Younger yes. Proven? NO
- nickmo2699

Everyone likes younger....

Fixed
- eichiefs9

Everyone likes younger....
- Nucker101

not me

not after the flyers sign bobby ryan

Ryan Giroux Voracek
Simmonds Schenn Read

My list of top 2 lines are:

Saad-Toews-Hossa
Sharp-Richards-Kane

Landeskog-Duche-Iggy
Reilly-MacKinnon-Tanguay

Benn-Seguin-Nich
Cole-Spezza-Hemsky

Parise-Koivu-Pommer
Vanek-Granlund-Coyle

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Couturier-Read

Hertl-Thornton-Pavelski
Marleau-Couture-Neito

Steen-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Stastny-Tarasenko

Honestly I like St.Louis the best. They are the only line IMO that doesn't have one guy you aren't sure of. Richards on CHI, Tanguay on Col, Cole on DAL, Coyle on MIN, Schenn on PHI and Neito on SJS are all guys that I am not sure will succeed where they are.

Everyone likes younger....
- Nucker101

Unfortunately that is the creepiest emoticon I can find for this reply

not after the flyers sign bobby ryan

Ryan Giroux Voracek
Simmonds Schenn Read
- 2Real

I think it's going to be hard to sign Ryan after you have both traded for and signed him in the past so many times already.

Everyone likes younger....
- Nucker101

Unfortunately that is the creepiest emoticon I can find for this reply
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You're welcome, for above ^

My list of top 2 lines are:

Saad-Toews-Hossa
Sharp-Richards-Kane

Landeskog-Duche-Iggy
Reilly-MacKinnon-Tanguay

Benn-Seguin-Nich
Cole-Spezza-Hemsky

Parise-Koivu-Pommer
Vanek-Granlund-Coyle

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Couturier-Read

Hertl-Thornton-Pavelski
Marleau-Couture-Neito

Steen-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Stastny-Tarasenko

Honestly I like St.Louis the best. They are the only line IMO that doesn't have one guy you aren't sure of. Richards on CHI, Tanguay on Col, Cole on DAL, Coyle on MIN, Schenn on PHI and Neito on SJS are all guys that I am not sure will succeed where they are.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I really like the Wild's top 6.

Ovechkin, fewer points his second year
Kane, fewer points his second year
RNH, fewer points his second year
Yakupov, fewer points his second year

That's half of the last 8 forwards taken first overall. And none of them had to deal with switching positions to one where they were required to be more defensively responsible. MacKinnon having a sophomore slump is not an outlandish idea.


As for who has the best top 6, the discussion gets pretty short when you remember forwards have to play on both ends of the ice. Colorado's top 6 is scary good on offense, but only decent defensively. Gives teams with two way guys like Toews the edge.
- Antilles

Edmonton sucks, why is it a shocker that RNH and Yak had slumps? On a good team, with support and proper coaching.. you think that happens?

Kanes 2nd year was a 2 pt drop and a 2 game shorter season. Big whoop. The following year he jumped up to over a PPG.

OV well.. that's a bad comparo man.. after he dipped in his 2nd season to 92 pts, he then jumped up to 112, 110, 109.. THEN in '10-'11 dipped again.. to 85.. 65...

So is OV slumping right now as well? Lol. Pts aren't everything.

My list of top 2 lines are:

Saad-Toews-Hossa
Sharp-Richards-Kane

Landeskog-Duche-Iggy
Reilly-MacKinnon-Tanguay

Benn-Seguin-Nich
Cole-Spezza-Hemsky

Parise-Koivu-Pommer
Vanek-Granlund-Coyle

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Couturier-Read

Hertl-Thornton-Pavelski
Marleau-Couture-Neito

Steen-Backes-Oshie
Schwartz-Stastny-Tarasenko

Honestly I like St.Louis the best. They are the only line IMO that doesn't have one guy you aren't sure of. Richards on CHI, Tanguay on Col, Cole on DAL, Coyle on MIN, Schenn on PHI and Neito on SJS are all guys that I am not sure will succeed where they are.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Funny, i read the list and immediately thought; "flyers"???
Then i saw that he was a flyers fan and it all made sense.

Certainly some quality names there, but far from among the creme.

Really like dallas' group

Noted.. but that was 5 years ago. He is a combined -41 over his past 3 years.

Trotz will help, but how much?

MacKinnon isn't gonna do anything but get better. He was a #1 overall pick for a reason.. was anyone talking about Crosby having a sophomore slump back when he was? I doubt it.

Or most of the other #1's? Nope. Maybe Tavares will hit a wall this year too
- DutchCanSaveUs

hahahahaha wow, just... wow.... McKinnon =/= Crosby

It's nice how we ended up with the gems of all these recent drafts, especially not picking 1st every year like the Oilers, hahah.
- DutchCanSaveUs

yea, defintely a donkey, what position was MacKinnon taken with again? (frank) you're not very bright.

Edmonton sucks, why is it a shocker that RNH and Yak had slumps? On a good team, with support and proper coaching.. you think that happens?

Kanes 2nd year was a 2 pt drop and a 2 game shorter season. Big whoop. The following year he jumped up to over a PPG.

OV well.. that's a bad comparo man.. after he dipped in his 2nd season to 92 pts, he then jumped up to 112, 110, 109.. THEN in '10-'11 dipped again.. to 85.. 65...

So is OV slumping right now as well? Lol. Pts aren't everything.
- DutchCanSaveUs

Just a bunch of excuses for why #1's had slumps, when you should just be admitting you were wrong for implying it's unusual or unexpected for people taken #1 to slump. And "comparo" isn't a word.

hahahahaha wow, just... wow.... McKinnon =/= Crosby
- SpoiledByOil

You're right, that's why he's being compared to him and spent the offseason practicing with him.. he can't learn anything nor be better than the magical unicorn that is Sidney Crosby, can he?

As yes, we all know MacKinnon went first.. the point is we didn't have to draft 1st overall 4 years in a row, and we're still winning our division and making the playoffs.

You guys meanwhile, have stockpiled a bunch of #1 picks and still can't get out of the basement.

Congrats.

Just a bunch of excuses for why #1's had slumps, when you should just be admitting you were wrong for implying it's unusual or unexpected for people taken #1 to slump. And "comparo" isn't a word.
- Antilles

So 2 games and 2 pts is a slump?

What would you call Ovechkins last 4 years then? Amazing? Lol.

I like how that only applies to 2nd year players though.

It's not a big deal, and MacKinnon is sliding back to his NATURAL position.. he won the calder playing in a spot he wasn't accustomed to.. to think he is going to do worse is just plain nonsense. Also, just look at the guys he will have around him.. terrible spot to be in.

So 2 games and 2 pts is a slump?

What would you call Ovechkins last 4 years then? Amazing? Lol.

I like how that only applies to 2nd year players though.

It's not a big deal, and MacKinnon is sliding back to his NATURAL position.. he won the calder playing in a spot he wasn't accustomed to.. to think he is going to do worse is just plain nonsense. Also, just look at the guys he will have around him.. terrible spot to be in.
- DutchCanSaveUs

Ovechkin is a good comparo IMHO

yea, defintely a donkey, what position was MacKinnon taken with again? (frank) you're not very bright.
- SpoiledByOil

"Gems" like the Av's have found are very rare.

I can't believe they found Mackinnon 1st overall, Landeskog 2nd overall, and Duchene 3rd. You usually just don't find value like that in those spots

It's nice how we ended up with the gems of all these recent drafts, especially not picking 1st every year like the Oilers, hahah.
- DutchCanSaveUs

Taylor hall

And yes, u had 3 lottery picks from 09-13. An impressive 1, 2 and a 3. While the oilers also had 3 in that time frame. But instead they were all firsts.
U should be proud...

Dont be so obtuse

It's nice how we ended up with the gems of all these recent drafts, especially not picking 1st every year like the Oilers, hahah.
- DutchCanSaveUs

I wouldn't say that they are all "gems" of their draft year by any means. Maybe MacKinnon which you picked 1st overall, but otherwise there are a lot better players from every other draft class with the exception of Landeskog who is right on par with RNH if you ask me.

You're right, that's why he's being compared to him and spent the offseason practicing with him.. he can't learn anything nor be better than the magical unicorn that is Sidney Crosby, can he?

As yes, we all know MacKinnon went first.. the point is we didn't have to draft 1st overall 4 years in a row, and we're still winning our division and making the playoffs.

You guys meanwhile, have stockpiled a bunch of #1 picks and still can't get out of the basement.
Congrats.
- DutchCanSaveUs

Speaking of getting out of a basement......