Whats a realistic return for franson?
- MacMillsauce

Would arguably be more useful in a package to trade for preferably a better defender/older veteran...

The St.Louis Blues are laughing at us if we play polak with phaneuf on the first pairing
- DougGilmour_93

I haven't really seen him play much but from his fitness testing for the Blues sounds good. First in sprinting, stamina, Weight lifting. I want to see him 5-10 games before I judge him.

probably your attitude
- the_eye

Can you even (frank)ing read?

I haven't really seen him play much but from his fitness testing for the Blues sounds good. First in sprinting, stamina, Weight lifting. I want to see him 5-10 games before I judge him.
- JVR_42_PK81

I still think that trade was stupid

I still think that trade was stupid
- DougGilmour_93

I don't think it was. They both bring a different style of game. The salary retained was rather unnecessary but oh well.

I still think that trade was stupid
- DougGilmour_93

Gunner was overpaid for what he should have being doing. They needed to trade him but I would have thought they had a plan to replace him on the top pairing.

Gunner was overpaid for what he should have being doing. They needed to trade him but I would have thought they had a plan to replace him on the top pairing.
- Yeti1181

That is what i thought too... replace him with a first pairing defender, (frank) i wish we got bieksa

That is what i thought too... replace him with a first pairing defender, (frank) i wish we got bieksa
- DougGilmour_93

I think if we had bieska playing top line minutes here he would be ripped on worse then Phaneuf

I think if we had bieska playing top line minutes here he would be ripped on worse then Phaneuf
- Yeti1181

Agree

I think if we had bieska playing top line minutes here he would be ripped on worse then Phaneuf
- Yeti1181

would be more appropriate than polak hey less heat on phaneuf!

would be more appropriate than polak
- DougGilmour_93

True. I think Reilly ends up there early in the season

I think if we had bieska playing top line minutes here he would be ripped on worse then Phaneuf
- Yeti1181

We could have Pronger, Lidstrom, Niedermayer, and Stevens all in their prime, and they'd still all get ripped by the media/fanbase.

We could have Pronger, Lidstrom, Niedermayer, and Stevens all in their prime, and they'd still all get ripped by the media/fanbase.
- Feeling Glucky?

true

True. I think Reilly ends up there early in the season
- Yeti1181

I don't know about that. Polak is a defense-first guy... it'll let Phaneuf do more of what Phaneuf's good at.

Putting Rielly out there would be bad for both guys, IMO.

why, why, why? delete my post?
collateral damage?

I don't know about that. Polak is a defense-first guy... it'll let Phaneuf do more of what Phaneuf's good at.

Putting Rielly out there would be bad for both guys, IMO.
- Feeling Glucky?

They were thinking of putting gardiner to be paired with phaneuf... isnt that worse?

I don't know about that. Polak is a defense-first guy... it'll let Phaneuf do more of what Phaneuf's good at.

Putting Rielly out there would be bad for both guys, IMO.
- Feeling Glucky?

Why not robidas, he was playing top line in Dallas.

Can you even (frank)ing read?
- Tee-Dot

read what? repost it. franker

why, why, why? delete my post?
collateral damage?
- the_eye

Yes

Why not robidas, he was playing top line in Dallas.
- Yeti1181

Because franson with either rielly or gardiner is terrible Franson needs to go, id rather see tallinder in the 3rd pairing or a spot go to granberg or percy

They were thinking of putting gardiner to be paired with phaneuf... isnt that worse?
- DougGilmour_93

Maybe not worse... Rielly ain't great defensively yet, either.

honestly, it's gotta be one of Polak or Robidas, IMO.

Strong defensive guys to let Phaneuf roam. Let Rielly and Gardiner play together against weaker competition, see what they can do. The advanced stats say they do a pretty good job together... and leave the other defensive d-man to play with Franson... he needs the help too.

Yes
- Yeti1181

ban him, he'll be back

Because franson with either rielly or gardiner is terrible Franson needs to go, id rather see tallinder in the 3rd pairing or a spot go to granberg or percy
- DougGilmour_93

Yeah true

Maybe not worse... Rielly ain't great defensively yet, either.

honestly, it's gotta be one of Polak or Robidas, IMO.

Strong defensive guys to let Phaneuf roam. Let Rielly and Gardiner play together against weaker competition, see what they can do. The advanced stats say they do a pretty good job together... and leave the other defensive d-man to play with Franson... he needs the help too.
- Feeling Glucky?

That defeats then the whole purpose of Carlyles' brilliant master plan of having 3 left handed and 3 right handed defenders

Yeah true
- Yeti1181

Phaneuf-Robidas/Polak
Gardiner-Rielly
Franson-Robidas/Polak

boom.