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LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Sep 19 @ 9:19 AM ET
Exactly. He arrived at the 2007 combine at 20% body fat (The equivalent of Kessel being about 220lbs), and nobody here seemed to give a (frank).
- lumlums

It's the Leaf hate that unites them all.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Sep 19 @ 9:19 AM ET
That's really funny. Kings win though, so no one targets him.
- BetterCallSaul


i don't get what that picture means...
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 19 @ 9:19 AM ET
JVR's got a really good contract but when you're talking about a 6'3 centre who scored 33 goals at 21 years of age, JVR's contract seems inconsequential. these guys, guys like RJ, they are so, so rare.
- DoubleDown


I'd love Johansen, but there are definitely guys who I'd rather trade ahead of JvR. Infact, I think I'd trade Kadri ahead of JvR, purely because I could then dream about what a JvR - Johansen - Kessel line could do
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 19 @ 9:20 AM ET
It's the Leaf hate that unites them all.
- LeafMan


Yup. Quite sad really
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 19 @ 9:20 AM ET
That's really funny. Kings win though, so no one targets him.
- BetterCallSaul



If you win you're a good leader. If not you're not a leader. Funny how Richards and carter were not leaders in Philly and now they are in la becuase they won.people have no clue who is and isn't a leader in the room and on the ice.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:21 AM ET
i don't get what that picture means...
- DoubleDown

Doughty is an NFL fan.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 19 @ 9:21 AM ET
i don't get what that picture means...
- DoubleDown



Come on.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:24 AM ET
I'd love Johansen, but there are definitely guys who I'd rather trade ahead of JvR. Infact, I think I'd trade Kadri ahead of JvR, purely because I could then dream about what a JvR - Johansen - Kessel line could do
- lumlums

Yeah, that would be awesome. But what I said originally is if I'm Columbus and Nonis calls about Johansen I'm saying the return package starts with JVR, because of his skill/cap hit.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 19 @ 9:24 AM ET
for Ryan Johansen? you would all do that in a heartbeat and wet yourselves immediately.
- DoubleDown


agree
JVR, Bozak and Frason for RJ and ....
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 19 @ 9:26 AM ET
We'll see. I'm hoping that there has been some serious talk about carrying the puck vs dumping it, and maintaining an effective forecheck ESPECIALLY when going for a line-change. Just some smart, simple changes can make a big difference
- lumlums



maybe... But I just see RC falling back to his same gameplan that was successful 7-8 years ago

dump in, retreat, collapse ... fans cry
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 19 @ 9:26 AM ET
If you win you're a good leader. If not you're not a leader. Funny how Richards and carter were not leaders in Philly and now they are in la becuase they won.people have no clue who is and isn't a leader in the room and on the ice.
- burn


Philly is a hockey market. Can't just go out every night tag teaming and expect people not to notice. It's normal in la though
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:28 AM ET
I am really curious to see how this season starts... if they are 10 games in and again giving up 35+ a game ... something has to change I am sure

so far from RC interviews it sounds like more of the same stuff.. play harder, compete..and randy will be grumpier.

- senstroll

They better come flying out of the get or Randy's in trouble.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:30 AM ET
They better come flying out of the get or Randy's in trouble.
- TML60

Bad season could end with an excellent prospect and a new head coach. But I will cheer for the playoffs until I can't.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
Philly is a hockey market. Can't just go out every night tag teaming and expect people not to notice. It's normal in la though
- Sammich



But see that's the point. Did that make them bad leaders? They didn't win in philly so they were called bad leaders, even though no one knew what they were saying in the room and so on.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
Hey Lucas, who's the best pick between JVR, Wayne Simmonds, and James Neal in a league that counts hits?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
agree
JVR, Bozak and Frason for RJ and ....

- senstroll





Kadri and Franson

Bozak and JVR
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 19 @ 9:36 AM ET
But see that's the point. Did that make them bad leaders? They didn't win in philly so they were called bad leaders, even though no one knew what they were saying in the room and so on.
- burn



bad leaders in this case = cocaine cowboys
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:36 AM ET
for Ryan Johansen? you would all do that in a heartbeat and wet yourselves immediately.
- DoubleDown

I haven't seen Johansen play. I like JVR and I don't want the Leafs to trade him. He's a good player with a good contract. If they traded someone like Bozak for Johansen and he was better on the 1st line with JVR and Kessel then great. But I still don't think I'd pee myself.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 19 @ 9:36 AM ET
Hey Lucas, who's the best pick between JVR, Wayne Simmons, and James Neal in a league that counts hits?
- BetterCallSaul



Franson
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
Bad season could end with an excellent prospect and a new head coach. But I will cheer for the playoffs until I can't.
- BetterCallSaul

Haven't we had enough bad seasons? Leafs fans deserve a playoff season. I think with an improved bottom six Randy should have enough to work with. If he can't get it done this year then can his ass.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Hey Lucas, who's the best pick between JVR, Wayne Simmonds, and James Neal in a league that counts hits?
- BetterCallSaul



You'd probably get a quicker response asking that on his own thread. Guy could use the hits and comments anyways. Help a brother out!


Oh, and morning (frank)ers!
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Poor guy. My wifes aunt has MS - bound to a wheelchair now. Her frustration levels peak to a point where she rages because she can't do the most simple things, and she takes it out on the ones who will allow her to - her family. She has to rely on everyone else to get through a day, and her pride and independence are gone. Tough go that disease is. Would make anyone testy at times.
- Woderwick



My uncle died from that disease.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
But see that's the point. Did that make them bad leaders? They didn't win in philly so they were called bad leaders, even though no one knew what they were saying in the room and so on.
- burn


Who knows.
But the trades could have been the kick in the ass they needed to grow up.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
You'd probably get a quicker response asking that on his own thread. Guy could use the hits and comments anyways. Help a brother out!


Oh, and morning (frank)ers!

- TheThrill



thrillius - doing some night fishing w the boys anytime soon?
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Sep 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
My uncle died from that disease.
- Pecafan Fan

I'm sorry to hear that. A friend of mine has it.
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