Signing Setoguchi to a nothing contract can't be compared to trading for Marchand

If you trade for Marchand you can't just cut him ...especially if he was part of a big trade

Seto might only play a handful of games and that would be fine ...no risk if his poor attitude and work ethic become an issue
- Redmile247

That's why you have McGrattan. Being a former partier himself he can talk to Marchand. If talking doesn't work then hands up female dog.

it's impossible to have conversations with flames fans on here, or in general really. Always so poopy pants and aggressive.
- SpoiledByOil

Youve proven yourself not to be much of a conversationalist. Your 1line insults and trolling only opens the door for more insults in return. Add some actual content worthy of conversation and you may surprised. However, maybe thats what you're afraid of; you may actually have to conjure up a level of intelligence of which you likely lack.

Youve proven yourself not to be much of a conversationalist. Your 1line insults and trolling only opens the door for more insults in return. Add some actual content worthy of conversation and you may surprised. However, maybe thats what you're afraid of; you may actually have to conjure up a level of intelligence of which you likely lack.
- TandA4Flames

I need to bookmark this post for the next time ek posts a blog.

Hudler, Backlund, Setoguchi
Glencross, Monahan, Colbourne
Baertschi, Stajan, Jones
Bollig, Bouma, Mcgrattan
Knight, Reinhart - Forwards to rotate into the lineup

Giordano, Brodie
Smid, Wideman
Russel, Engelland
Potter - 7th D-man

Hiller
Ramo

Back to Junior:
Bennett
Smith
Klimchuk
Kanzig
Mcdonald
Hickey
Carroll

AHL

Gaudreau, Grandlund, Poirier(when he is healthy)
Ferland, Arnold , Hanowski
Agostino, Joorish, Harrison
Elson, Deblouw,Van Brabant

Wotherspoon, Brookbank or Diazs (whom ever signs with the Flames)
Seiloff, Acolatse
Cundari, Ramage

Ortio
Thiessen

Youve proven yourself not to be much of a conversationalist. Your 1line insults and trolling only opens the door for more insults in return. Add some actual content worthy of conversation and you may surprised. However, maybe thats what you're afraid of; you may actually have to conjure up a level of intelligence of which you likely lack.
- TandA4Flames

You're probably right... I really can't see us going past the second round this year. Conference finals is likely a stretch.
- jtommyt

STUPID FU@# $@ AUTO CORRECT!!!

Go home.

I don't think anyone picked Omark to win the Calder
http://www.hockeybuzz.com...-Win-The-Calder/187/62351

But to be honest I don't think he will.

I know you are just trolling but are you saying you wouldn't want JG, SB, or SM in your organization? Because you got rid of all those oilers players.
- tmurph

Bill Meltzer doesn't have a vote...so

Hey I don't lump you in with the Whips, please don't lump me in with the likes of potato, Brian Cranston and the rest.
- Lahey

It because every oiler fan on here is expecting the flames to be just as bad as the oilers were for years after their rebuild started ...the truth is the flames youth was not handed everything on a silver platter and aren't a bunch of primadonnas ....there is a chance that the flames could repeat what the oilers rebuild accomplished ...but there is also a greater chance they turn a corner sooner ...and that thought pisses every oiler fan off
- Redmile247

Not Oiler fan. From day one of the Oilers rebuild I expect them to miss another chance at the playoffs (5th yr). I think they make it in year 6.

I think the Flames miss this year and the next 1 or 2, meaning the Flames are a year or 2 ahead.

Hudler, Backlund, Setoguchi
Glencross, Monahan, Colbourne
Baertschi, Stajan, Jones
Bollig, Bouma, Mcgrattan
Knight, Reinhart - Forwards to rotate into the lineup

Giordano, Brodie
Smid, Wideman
Russel, Engelland
Potter - 7th D-man

Hiller
Ramo

Back to Junior:
Bennett
Smith
Klimchuk
Kanzig
Mcdonald
Hickey
Carroll

AHL

Gaudreau, Grandlund, Poirier(when he is healthy)
Ferland, Arnold , Hanowski
Agostino, Joorish, Harrison
Elson, Deblouw,Van Brabant

Wotherspoon, Brookbank or Diazs (whom ever signs with the Flames)
Seiloff, Acolatse
Cundari, Ramage

Ortio
Thiessen
- buddy_doug

I actually like putting Baertschi with Stajan. Staj will talk to him on and off the ice which i think will really help him. The D is how i would put it but i wouldn't be surprised to see either Diaz or Brookbank subbing in and out.

Not Oiler fan. From day one of the Oilers rebuild I expect them to miss another chance at the playoffs (5th yr). I think they make it in year 6.

I think the Flames miss this year and the next 1 or 2, meaning the Flames are a year or 2 ahead.
- Jeropotato

I agree with tbis. The other difference I would expect though is CGY showing a steadier incline in their progress. I expect this year to be as bad or worse than last year and then we start to climb as we transition in our rooks and they gain experience. We already have a good core of possession players in Backs, Gio and Brodie. Mony will get better in his overall game and then we add Baertschi, Bennett, Gaudreau etc who i feel can become good offensive and possession guys.

Good post 'tater

I agree with tbis. The other difference I would expect though is CGY showing a steadier incline in their progress. I expect this year to be as bad or worse than last year and then we start to climb as we transition in our rooks and they gain experience. We already have a good core of possession players in Backs, Gio and Brodie. Mony will get better in his overall game and then we add Baertschi, Bennett, Gaudreau etc who i feel can become good offensive and possession guys.

Good post 'tater
- TandA4Flames

The only set back the Flames might experience is the influx of rookies at any given season. It's one thing to have a full time rookie in the line up with a couple others in and out of the line up, its gonna be a tough to gradually get all that talent in the line up. In the next couple of years we will probably see 5 or 6 of your current prospects. Any team that has 7 or 8 (core) players in the line up with less than 3 seasons under their belt is gonna be in tough. I like how they are slowly inserting them for now, but think we can expect a season where these kids can't be denied, but wont necessarily benefit the season.

The only set back the Flames might experience is the influx of rookies at any given season. It's one thing to have a full time rookie in the line up with a couple others in and out of the line up, its gonna be a tough to gradually get all that talent in the line up. In the next couple of years we will probably see 5 or 6 of your current prospects. Any team that has 7 or 8 (core) players in the line up with less than 3 seasons under their belt is gonna be in tough. I like how they are slowly inserting them for now, but think we can expect a season where these kids can't be denied, but wont necessarily benefit the season.
- Jeropotato

wow that was actually a legitimate, insightful post

I agree with this...my optimistic side looks at all these promising prospects. The reality is that many won't pan out to their projected potential. I see a line-up of all these young players that look to be so good, but who knows if they can ever even be NHL players let alone high-end NHL players. Knight, Ferland, Granlund, Klimchuk...maybe none of these guys establish themselves outside of being AHL regulars. That's the worst case scenario...and if we move them all up to the NHL at once, it could mean total collapse. Would love to see these youngsters given a chance, but it could end up being a disaster...
Fingers crossed that we find a few diamonds in the roughs and one of the ends up being the next lowly drafted Datsyuk

The only set back the Flames might experience is the influx of rookies at any given season. It's one thing to have a full time rookie in the line up with a couple others in and out of the line up, its gonna be a tough to gradually get all that talent in the line up. In the next couple of years we will probably see 5 or 6 of your current prospects. Any team that has 7 or 8 (core) players in the line up with less than 3 seasons under their belt is gonna be in tough. I like how they are slowly inserting them for now, but think we can expect a season where these kids can't be denied, but wont necessarily benefit the season.
- Jeropotato

I honestly think this is the season where vets get shipped out en masse. Guys like Gaudreau, Baertschi, Granlund, Reinheart, Poirier, Ferland, Wotherspoon, Sieloff, and Knight will push out vets like Smid, Jones, Stajan, Glencross, Seto, Hudler, Bollig, etc.

It definitely won't help with the final standings this year, but it should help to move us forward for next. I expect to have a mitt full of 2nd and 3rd round picks in the upcoming draft.

I honestly think this is the season where vets get shipped out en masse. Guys like Gaudreau, Baertschi, Granlund, Reinheart, Poirier, Ferland, Wotherspoon, Sieloff, and Knight will push out vets like Smid, Jones, Stajan, Glencross, Seto, Hudler, Bollig, etc.

It definitely won't help with the final standings this year, but it should help to move us forward for next. I expect to have a mitt full of 2nd and 3rd round picks in the upcoming draft.
- jtommyt

I wouldn't bet money on it but I bet some team will pull an Islanders move like last year and over pay on top 6 help. Its nice that Flames will be open for business all season long with some decent top 6 forwards and one or two top 4 d-man available.

wow that was actually a legitimate, insightful post

I agree with this...my optimistic side looks at all these promising prospects. The reality is that many won't pan out to their projected potential. I see a line-up of all these young players that look to be so good, but who knows if they can ever even be NHL players let alone high-end NHL players. Knight, Ferland, Granlund, Klimchuk...maybe none of these guys establish themselves outside of being AHL regulars. That's the worst case scenario...and if we move them all up to the NHL at once, it could mean total collapse. Would love to see these youngsters given a chance, but it could end up being a disaster...
Fingers crossed that we find a few diamonds in the roughs and one of the ends up being the next lowly drafted Datsyuk
- cpltanto

I think we're seeing that many of these guys can be NHLers. I don't know if all of them will be the long-term solution for this team... guys like Knight and Reinheart still have to prove their worth a bit. On the other hand I see Granlund, Ferland, Baertshi and Gaudreau all making the case that they're every bit as good as the veterans with more upside potential. In those cases, I'm happy to have them push a vet out the door.

I think we're seeing that many of these guys can be NHLers. I don't know if all of them will be the long-term solution for this team... guys like Knight and Reinheart still have to prove their worth a bit. On the other hand I see Granlund, Ferland, Baertshi and Gaudreau all making the case that they're every bit as good as the veterans with more upside potential. In those cases, I'm happy to have them push a vet out the door.
- jtommyt

If they can prove they are at least as good as the veterans than sure
I guess my cautious side wonders why they haven't cracked the line-up previously
Guys like Reinhart, Ferland, Granlund have looked good for at least 2 years now at development and prospects camp yet are rarely called up (and don't stick when they do) making me believe their showings in the AHL/prospect camps aren't a good indication of how they can compete at an NHL leve
I hope I'm wrong, I've been loving Granlund/Ferland for awhile now, I just hope they'r still improving to another level

I honestly think this is the season where vets get shipped out en masse. Guys like Gaudreau, Baertschi, Granlund, Reinheart, Poirier, Ferland, Wotherspoon, Sieloff, and Knight will push out vets like Smid, Jones, Stajan, Glencross, Seto, Hudler, Bollig, etc.

It definitely won't help with the final standings this year, but it should help to move us forward for next. I expect to have a mitt full of 2nd and 3rd round picks in the upcoming draft.
- jtommyt

I disagree. I think a few will go. Depending who does well and or/resigns. Glencross, Seto would be the most likely. If one or both get resigned then i think Hudler would be on the move with only 2 years left on his contract. I think Backs and Staj stick for the next 2-3 years, most of his contract for Staj to bookend the C position for the 4 lines. Mony and likely Bennett fill C for the 2nd and 3rd lines and the take over the top 2 lines over the next 3 years, barring any McEichel addition of course. The backend will be a slow transition. Id say by the deadline one of Wotherspoon or Sieloff take up a permanent position, or maybe another if they really surprise. In 3 years, Backs becomes the vet that supports the offensive kids. It'll be interesting to see what kids take up a spot over the next 3 years o the wings.

I disagree. I think a few will go. Depending who does well and or/resigns. Glencross, Seto would be the most likely. If one or both get resigned then i think Hudler would be on the move with only 2 years left on his contract. I think Backs and Staj stick for the next 2-3 years, most of his contract for Staj to bookend the C position for the 4 lines. Mony and likely Bennett fill C for the 2nd and 3rd lines and the take over the top 2 lines over the next 3 years, barring any McEichel addition of course. The backend will be a slow transition. Id say by the deadline one of Wotherspoon or Sieloff take up a permanent position, or maybe another if they really surprise. In 3 years, Backs becomes the vet that supports the offensive kids. It'll be interesting to see what kids take up a spot over the next 3 years o the wings.
- TandA4Flames

I wouldn't be shocked to see Staj stick around for a while, but at the same time I wouldn't be shocked to see him moved at the TDL if a guy like Reinheart proves that he can play that shutdown role.

I really think the jobs are up for grabs for the rookies. Come in and prove that you deserve the spot and I think BT will make room.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Staj stick around for a while, but at the same time I wouldn't be shocked to see him moved at the TDL if a guy like Reinheart proves that he can play that shutdown role.

I really think the jobs are up for grabs for the rookies. Come in and prove that you deserve the spot and I think BT will make room.
- jtommyt

I guess at this point nothing would surprise me. There really are so many variables and possibilties that could happen over the next 3 years.

I guess at this point nothing would surprise me. There really are so many variables and possibilties that could happen over the next 3 years.
- TandA4Flames

I agree. My guess is we will be parting with one of our vetrans in the middle of the year. And two at the trade deadline.

I even hear the Avalanche are interested in trading for Ramo for a second round pick

I agree. My guess is we will be parting with one of our vetrans in the middle of the year. And two at the trade deadline.

I even hear the Avalanche are interested in trading for Ramo for a second round pick
- tmurph

No deal. Ramo's going to be our starter.

No deal. Ramo's going to be our starter.
- jtommyt

Berra was our starter last year

I liked him as our starter. He got us Bennet instead of Virtanen.

I actually like putting Baertschi with Stajan. Staj will talk to him on and off the ice which i think will really help him. The D is how i would put it but i wouldn't be surprised to see either Diaz or Brookbank subbing in and out.
- TandA4Flames

I can see granlund getting in before baertschi.

Baertschi or whateverthefck gets traded?
- Jeropotato

I don't disagree with you.

I think he's the most traceable since
- he's a 1st 2nd line LW potential. We have enough of those.
- He has value, he's not a bust

We could get a RH shot RW, or a D with him and fill a prospect hole.

So hes traded not because he's bad, but because he's good, but in an area that we have others with potential.