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Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Sep 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
the simple fact is that methot is not worth 5.5 mil. people are looking at him through the same "goggles" they viewed kuba. that is, he was playing alongside one of the best d-men in the entire league, and as a result appeared to be better than he actually was.
if ottawa was to pair methot with ANYONE on this team not named karlsson, and people would see that he was AT BEST an average #3 or good #4 d-man.

- sensarmy_11

The problem is that what a player is 'worth' in terms of salary is market-drive, not value-driven - scarcity drives up price, and you wind up with Brooks Orpik making $5.5M/yr. And if you look at the UFA list of defencemen for next year, you'll see why Methot's agent is conducting himself in this fashion. There are 24 defenceman on that list currently making $3M or more, of which just 6 are currently under the age of 30 - Staal, Green, Meszaros, Petry, Franson, and Methot.

Now I'm not sure that Methot would actually ever get $5.5M/yr on the UFA market, but I can sure see why it might be starting point of a more ambitious negotiation.
SENS 613
Ottawa Senators
Location: " I would be offended but you are a pretty big loser" Tuna99
Joined: 10.18.2009

Sep 17 @ 5:13 PM ET
Ugh that Ryan news sucks

They need to trade him asap. I personally don't think he's worth anything over 7 per.

My god, imagine if all along Spatso was right and the Sens end up shipping him to Winnipeg for Kane.

Ryan + +

for

Kane and Morissey



One can dream
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 17 @ 5:20 PM ET
Ugh that Ryan news sucks

They need to trade him asap. I personally don't think he's worth anything over 7 per.

My god, imagine if all along Spatso was right and the Sens end up shipping him to Winnipeg for Kane.

Ryan + +

for

Kane and Morissey



One can dream

- SENS 613


and People were saying that he'd find Ottawa too cold
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 17 @ 6:25 PM ET
Ugh that Ryan news sucks

They need to trade him asap. I personally don't think he's worth anything over 7 per.

My god, imagine if all along Spatso was right and the Sens end up shipping him to Winnipeg for Kane.

Ryan + +

for

Kane and Morissey



One can dream

- SENS 613


that rumour was from don brennan, and was rejected by bob mackenzie, the sens, and ryan himself
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Sep 17 @ 8:47 PM ET
Ya cause the Jets will let go of Kane who is on an amazing contract for 1 year of Bobby Ryan and what else? Not to mention Morissey is a projected to be a top-4.
What a poop deal. If anything I'd trade for Bogosian. Armenians baby!!!
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Sep 17 @ 8:51 PM ET
that rumour was from don brennan, and was rejected by bob mackenzie, the sens, and ryan himself
- sensarmy_11


you think Winnipeg agrees to do Ryan, Methot, Prince, 2nd for Bogosian, 3rd?
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Sep 17 @ 9:21 PM ET

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 6h

Regarding reports Bobby Ryan turned down 7 x $7M from OTT, my understanding is not only did Ryan NOT turn it down, it was never offered.

david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 17 @ 10:08 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie · 6h

Regarding reports Bobby Ryan turned down 7 x $7M from OTT, my understanding is not only did Ryan NOT turn it down, it was never offered.

- TheCalSen

sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 18 @ 7:38 AM ET
you think Winnipeg agrees to do Ryan, Methot, Prince, 2nd for Bogosian, 3rd?
- TheCalSen


that's a HORRIBLE deal for ottawa.......Ryan all by himself is worth more than bogo and a 3rd, when you include 3 other solid assets on top of him
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Sep 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
Regarding reports Bobby Ryan turned down 7 x $7M from OTT, my understanding is not only did Ryan NOT turn it down, it was never offered.
- TheCalSen

And people wonder why hockey players in Canadian markets start to resent the media... honestly, how are these people not held accountable for publishing this kind of unsubstantiated crap?

Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:41 AM ET
And people wonder why hockey players in Canadian markets start to resent the media... honestly, how are these people not held accountable for publishing this kind of unsubstantiated crap?
- khawk

Ya really. I don't know why people don't boycott the Sun. Complete garbage.
TheCalSen
Ottawa Senators
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.07.2014

Sep 18 @ 1:52 PM ET
that's a HORRIBLE deal for ottawa.......Ryan all by himself is worth more than bogo and a 3rd, when you include 3 other solid assets on top of him
- sensarmy_11


Ya, now that I actually look at it, it favors Winnipeg. I was just basing it on the fact that Ryan and Methot both have 1 year left on their contracts, and would they even sign with them? Whereas, Bogosian is on a good contract, signed until 19-20.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 18 @ 3:16 PM ET
Ya, now that I actually look at it, it favors Winnipeg. I was just basing it on the fact that Ryan and Methot both have 1 year left on their contracts, and would they even sign with them? Whereas, Bogosian is on a good contract, signed until 19-20.
- TheCalSen


honestly, i don't think bogosian, other than age, is much better than methot.......if he even is better than methot.

now, if that package was for trouba, then maybe you explore some options
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
Anyone thinking of doing a Senators pool this year?
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