*sigh*
- Ogilthorpe2

I know right?

Interesting editing at NHL Network...

Currently showing game 6 of the 2010 final. A commercial break at about the 7 minute mark of period 2, tied 1-1.

Return from break at about the 13 minute mark tied 2-2.

Thanks for that guys.
- ArlingtonRob

Pssstt. They won.

I know right?
- Elbows15

The (frank) have you been? I'm dying here.

The (frank) have you been? I'm dying here.
- Ogilthorpe2

Purgatory.

Hey phil!

I was just watching the entire Blue series last night and Versteeg was really active in most shifts but was basically fast when alreay in flight, and looked tentative when he had to make a move defensively.

Yeah, I watched all the Notre Dame footage too, and I saw what you did...that Versteeg was certainly a very skilled attacker and made me think twice about the hawks cutting ties with him.

As far as Barker goes- EVERY scout saw the offensive abilities of a young kid playing on World Junior Tourney after huge point totals in the DUB and a rocket point blast.

Every team thought if he's there and we draft him, we can teach him to a solid defensive players, since he WAS a defenseman.

From that first Hawk prospect camp when they paired him with Seabrook, it was easy to see that there was a issue with him making decisions in his zone and more than that handling the play after deciding what his responsibilty is on the play.

He NEVER seemed to get enough understanding in his stay on the parent club. So Bust is very appropriate.
Maybe he is older and better after his stay in Kazakhstan, or not.

And you were right the draft wasn't an easy draft to easily pull an impact franchise player, and my re-Draft shows you is if you are picking 21st, you get Versteeg, no more, and only FIVE dee-men panned out as solid players long term.

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/redraft/2004/
- wiz1901

Schneider over Olesz??? Pfffttt!

Even a cynic needs training camp G-man.
- Elbows15

Nick Leddy says "Hi".

Now that I have some time to more properly respond to your "preach a lot" comment:

I have opinions, and I have ethics; if that does not conform to HB policy, please let me know.

The league should not be in the position of vigorously enforcing some rules and not others. LTIR a should be reserved for players with - yes - lingering injuries from some trauma that (a) could be further injured by playing, or (b) does not allow them to play effectively. It should not be used to allow Hossa to "rest" for a few games without a demonstrable injury - or to park a player to allow a team to temporarily get below the cap. We have read here that the Hawks should put any number of players on IR - Roszival, Versteeg, Oduya - without (except for Oduya, who apparently seems to be skating well) any apparent injury, to buy time to get under the cap.

Preachy? OK - just me trying to channel an old shtetl rebbe to the modern hockey world.
- StLBravesFan

Opinions and ethics? How dare you? I don't care what anyone says, I appreciate and RESPECT your convictions. So Preach on mi amigo..

Nick Leddy says "Hi".
- HawkintheD

Nick Leddy can't spell "hi" let alone define it. Sup D?

Nick Leddy can't spell "hi" let alone define it. Sup D?
- Elbows15

He could be high. Not much Bows, how bout you?

Not much on tv but game 6 of the Hawks clincher in Boston was on. So I take it you're no longer in rural MI?

Keith and Sharp suck on the points. They suck real hard.
- Ogilthorpe2

I wasn't talking about for the hawks, just like Buff wouldn't have fit that role for them. Was just an out of the box concept for a lesser team.

Opinions and ethics? How dare you? I don't care what anyone says, I appreciate and RESPECT your convictions. So Preach on mi amigo..
- Elbows15

hmmmm. I wonder how Eli the referee's espanol is? lol

He could be high.
- HawkintheD

That would explain some of his on ice decision making

That would explain some of his on ice decision making
- stljam

If only.

Quick poll...of those that are season ticket holders, how many of you will attend 2 or 3 preaseason games. This may be the first year in like 5 years that I actually attend 2 or maybe even all 3 home games.

If only.
- HawkintheD

We feel the same way about Cole and did about Perron and Stewart

So I had an acquaintance make this statement today...

"So is it me or does it feel like Football domestic violence month?"

Ouch. Way too much truth to that statement.

OT - great catch by the Clemson player in a very close game.

ETA - leads to a touchdown to give Clemson the lead...

So I had an acquaintance make this statement today...

"So is it me or does it feel like Football domestic violence month?"

Ouch. Way too much truth to that statement.
- stljam

Think you could pick any month and that's happening. This one just happened to be the one where a couple of higher profile players were the perps, so it's getting more press than normal. Could be wrong, but just my take.

Think you could pick any month and that's happening. This one just happened to be the one where a couple of higher profile players were the perps, so it's getting more press than normal. Could be wrong, but just my take.
- HawkintheD

Agree completely but the amount of press this month is insane - Peterson, rice, Winston, etc...

OT - great catch by the Clemson player in a very close game.

ETA - leads to a touchdown to give Clemson the lead...
- stljam

...and WSU just goes back on top of Oregon. That one's still early (4th qtr) but #1 and #2 being challenged this week.

...and WSU just goes back on top of Oregon. That one's still early (4th qtr) but #1 and #2 being challenged this week.
- HawkintheD

so much for going to bed early lol

ugh. Clemson db... go up and get that interception...

ETA - nice avatar btw

so much for going to bed early lol

ugh. Clemson db... go up and get that interception...

ETA - nice avatar btw
- stljam

Likewise.

I'm calling it a night. Good night and enjoy. Go Tigers! (that applies to about 50 teams).

Likewise.

I'm calling it a night. Good night and enjoy. Go Tigers! (that applies to about 50 teams).
- HawkintheD

except at Mizzou this point lol..night.

Oduya traded before Leddy

He could be high. Not much Bows, how bout you?

Not much on tv but game 6 of the Hawks clincher in Boston was on. So I take it you're no longer in rural MI?
- HawkintheD

Home for the weekend.