*sigh*

Interesting editing at NHL Network...

Currently showing game 6 of the 2010 final. A commercial break at about the 7 minute mark of period 2, tied 1-1.

Return from break at about the 13 minute mark tied 2-2.

Thanks for that guys.
- ArlingtonRob

I thought I lost time, thanks for pointing this out!

Being in a constant drunken stupor is kind of like being injured.
- HawkintheD

Unless you are Theo Fleury and then you actually play better. Too wrong?

*sigh*
- Ogilthorpe2

Upset Sharp is still in camp?

Interesting editing at NHL Network...

Currently showing game 6 of the 2010 final. A commercial break at about the 7 minute mark of period 2, tied 1-1.

Return from break at about the 13 minute mark tied 2-2.

Thanks for that guys.
- ArlingtonRob

But we still won.

I can't imagine what this team would look like if there wasn't a cap.

Upset Sharp is still in camp?
- stljam

Yes, but more disappointed at the state of affairs on this thread.

Some reading to keep you entertained until Stan makes a move we can all talk about for weeks.

I interviewed former Hawks Captain Adrian Aucoun. Nice to get the perspective of someone on the Developmental Team during Hawks' events like the Rookie Tourney.

http://thehockeychat.com/...-exclusive-adrian-aucoin/

@theScoreNHL: Blackhawks' Versteeg on last season: 'I was brutal' http://t.co/CpSBsXLfEA http://t.co/l1SVH3cHDA

Yes, but more disappointed at the state of affairs on this thread.
- Ogilthorpe2

- HawkintheD

Hours of entertainment,thanks D.

@theScoreNHL: Blackhawks' Versteeg on last season: 'I was brutal' http://t.co/CpSBsXLfEA http://t.co/l1SVH3cHDA
- DarthKane

Got to give him credit for being honest. Jim Mora part deux?

TSN hawks preview in case you haven't seen it

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=462244

That may be what Bowman is thinking but I'd be surprised.

Moving Leddy now with the idea of picking up a significant defensive replacement at the deadline assumes somebody good is available and at what cost? The past trade deadlines indicate it costs #1 picks at least and you wind up with an overpriced player or a guy on an expiring contract. Loathe to do that.

I think Leddy's future contract demands are the biggest concern to them and they are looking hard to see if there is a long term in house replacement for him at a much more reasonable cost for a couple years.

All that BS aside, I still can't see awarding roster spots to the likes of Versteeg, Rozsival, Regin etc and dumping Leddy ffor cap reasons. They want something good back in return. There are teams out there that have crap on their blueline, Leddy would be a significant upgrade for them. What are they willing to give back?
- RickJ

Kevin Hayes!!!

I've notive we haven't heard any "overweight Byfuglien" stories so far. This is the time of year there's always a (needless) story about Big Buff being out of shape. The only story I've seen is about Byfuglien playing forward next season and he's not overly happy about it.

I've notive we haven't heard any "overweight Byfuglien" stories so far. This is the time of year there's always a (needless) story about Big Buff being out of shape. The only story I've seen is about Byfuglien playing forward next season and he's not overly happy about it.
- DarthKane

He doesn't seem happy at all!Sounds like a showdown coming,after all is done they may wish for the overweight days.

The Hype Machine rolls on as Hawk management and coaching pump TT's tires simultaneously inflating the expectations of the kool aid drinking fan base.

From yesterday's Herald:

http://www.dailyherald.co...0140918/sports/140918116/
- HawkintheD

I haven't said much about the over the cap, need to trade situation the Hawks are in up until this point. I hope you realize that under the cba

"Upper Limit.
(A) With the exception of the 2012-13 Upper Limit, as set forth in Section 50.5(b)(ii)(A) above, the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception set forth in Section 50.10(d) and the Performance Bonus Cushion set forth in Section 50.5(h) below for
all League Years under this Agreement, no Club shall at any point during a League Year be permitted to have an Averaged Club Salary that exceeds the Upper Limit of the Payroll Range."

(B) Nevertheless, in order to ensure that Clubs may have sufficient time and flexibility to plan their rosters during the off-season, the Upper Limit shall be temporarily raised by ten (10) percent to permit Clubs additional flexibility with their Averaged Club Salaries during the period from July 1 until and including the last day of Training Camp. On the day following the last day of Training Camp, the Upper Limit shall again be lowered to the level as calculated in Section 50.5(b), and all Clubs must once again be in compliance with the Upper Limit from the day following the last day of Training Camp until and including June 30.

Why would any GM do any trade with SB unless they felt they were definitely winning the trade? If all of the GMs do nothing, SB has to send to the minors Bickell, Hossa, Sharp, Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith, Hjalmarsson, Oduya or Crawford or he can send a combo of Leddy and TT or the like. Regardless, all but TT would be exposed for free on waivers. My only point is that SB is over a barrel and the other GMs know it and if I was a hawks fan, I would be expecting to lose whatever trade gets us under the gap but a decent margin.

As I read the CBA, I believe the league would force them to send someone to the minors to clear the cap before the first game (barring LTIR of course).

He is in a bad situation and every other GM knows it which gives them a lot of leverage, more leverage as the last day of training camp approaches. The only thing SB has going for him really is the other GMs wondering who will blink first and take a good deal before waiting for a better deal.

Hours of entertainment,thanks D.
- eagle50

Anytime.

Just flipped on Classic NHL and it's game 6 against the Bruins. I hope the Hawks can pull it out.

Looking at vids off the club site......seems Steeger is reborn. Q says he's in better shape and has more jump.
- philco28

Hey phil!

I was just watching the entire Blue series last night and Versteeg was really active in most shifts but was basically fast when alreay in flight, and looked tentative when he had to make a move defensively.

Yeah, I watched all the Notre Dame footage too, and I saw what you did...that Versteeg was certainly a very skilled attacker and made me think twice about the hawks cutting ties with him.

As far as Barker goes- EVERY scout saw the offensive abilities of a young kid playing on World Junior Tourney after huge point totals in the DUB and a rocket point blast.

Every team thought if he's there and we draft him, we can teach him to a solid defensive players, since he WAS a defenseman.

From that first Hawk prospect camp when they paired him with Seabrook, it was easy to see that there was a issue with him making decisions in his zone and more than that handling the play after deciding what his responsibilty is on the play.

He NEVER seemed to get enough understanding in his stay on the parent club. So Bust is very appropriate.
Maybe he is older and better after his stay in Kazakhstan, or not.

And you were right the draft wasn't an easy draft to easily pull an impact franchise player, and my re-Draft shows you is if you are picking 21st, you get Versteeg, no more, and only FIVE dee-men panned out as solid players long term.

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/redraft/2004/

As far as Barker goes- EVERY scout saw the offensive abilities of a young kid playing on World Junior Tourney after huge point totals in the DUB and a rocket point blast.

Every team thought if he's there and we draft him, we can teach him to a solid defensive players, since he WAS a defenseman.

- wiz1901

I don't know jack about Barker but do you think anyone considered putting him on the roster to play the point on the PP and converting him to a winger the rest of the game? I thought Burns and Buff might end up going something like this but I am an unconventional thinking, probably due to all the pucks to the mask.

http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/redraft/2004/
- wiz1901

BTW, Bolland No thanks. Dubinsky fits our mold thank you very much.

Looking at vids off the club site......seems Steeger is reborn. Q says he's in better shape and has more jump. Encouraging, but he'll likely regress into the same old turnover machine in no time.
- philco28

Hey Phil hope you had a good summer as well as everyone else here...
here's some video of Versteeg chatting with the press at camp. I'm hopeful we'll see a renewed player this season a full year after the injury. He certainly looked tentative and floated a lot last season. Need to see the grinder/ mucker/ physical version back. Time will tell...can't wait for the Wings game Tuesday night which will be on here...

http://www.csnchicago.com...-struggles-are-behind-him

Why would any GM do any trade with SB unless they felt they were definitely winning the trade? If all of the GMs do nothing, SB has to send to the minors Bickell, Hossa, Sharp, Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith, Hjalmarsson, Oduya or Crawford or he can send a combo of Leddy and TT or the like. Regardless, all but TT would be exposed for free on waivers. My only point is that SB is over a barrel and the other GMs know it and if I was a hawks fan, I would be expecting to lose whatever trade gets us under the gap but a decent margin.
- stljam

It's simple than you make it:
That GM that
a) has a team that NEEDS help before the season starts b/c they look the same or worst than the year before when the sucked.

b) has a fan-base what has been promised a season where they make the playoffs with improvement/

c) really feels with a couple seasoned vets the team will really take off and the can make real noise.


Just looking at the returns on Versteeg (last time), Ladd, and Buff we all know what dismal returns the hawks got when then were REALLY UNDER A CAP CRUSH.

This little inconvenience is not worth the bluster we have all stated here.
It is not putting a gun to Bowman's head.

TT & most of the Rockford youth can move up and down when "injury call-ups" are needed.

Rostislav Olesz types are who get gets sent down.

So it's more like unles sthe hawks send a REAL player away, the return is an Olesz type.

But if we are talking about trading NHL defender you are gonna find many teams interested with no barrels or Stan's head.

I don't know jack about Barker but do you think anyone considered putting him on the roster to play the point on the PP and converting him to a winger the rest of the game?
- stljam

I guess the answer would lie in whether Barker was playing wing since he left Chicago at various stages.

If Barker still can't play one position, why would anyone think he could seamless walk in to wing and understand the nuances there?

Anyway, I like the three guys on the Hawk points Keith Sharp and Richards.

I guess the answer would lie in whether Barker was playing wing since he left Chicago at various stages.

If Barker still can't play one position, why would anyone think he could seamless walk in to wing and understand the nuances there?

Anyway, I like the three guys on the Hawk points Keith Sharp and Richards.
- wiz1901

Keith and Sharp suck on the points. They suck real hard.