No no no. Stop trying to change what you said.

You said the coach is to blame for not telling Nonis to make a trade...

And thats where I came in saying the coach doesnt get to demand that his boss do something. And that Nonis can see for himself a position needs to be upgraded..
- jbold

Tavares had 81 points the season his contract was up. Before? Had over 50 and 60 his first 2 seasons.

He only makes 5.5 million.


He was already a star. And a first line center.

Johanssen is a lot different. He's demanding big money without actually putting up the points and the play that demands it
- jbold

Tavares was coming off a 67 point season when he signed that deal. The only dramatic difference is that he was a first overall pick with a higher chance of reaching his potential.

JT wanted to play in NY with the Isle, he took a deal

Johanson seems not to fond of the Jackets and wants to get paid to stay

He's single now.. So probably really hungover?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I get out of relationships and I stop drinking

Tavares was coming off a 67 point season when he signed that deal. The only dramatic difference is that he was a first overall pick with a higher chance of reaching his potential.
- daeth

wasnt he coming off of a 81 point season?


11'-12' season is the season he had with the 81 point season. Thought he signed his contract after that season.

A punch in the mouth.
- Atomic Wedgie

is it refundable?

Tavares was coming off a 67 point season when he signed that deal. The only dramatic difference is that he was a first overall pick with a higher chance of reaching his potential.
- daeth

dramatic? 1st and 4th? not that dramatic

wasnt he coming off of a 81 point season?
- jbold

He signed that deal in 2011

I get out of relationships and I stop drinking
- Yeti1181

Get two birds stoned at once.. Nice.

Kids gonna end up taking a bridge deal, we all know it

No no no. Stop trying to change what you said.

You said the coach is to blame for not telling Nonis to make a trade...

And thats where I came in saying the coach doesnt get to demand that his boss do something. And that Nonis can see for himself a position needs to be upgraded..



Here's exactly what you said.

' i blame randy for not making adjustments or forcing nonis to make moves so he could make the adjustments.'
- jbold

then the coach sits the player, which the GM considers an asset, until the GM does trade him

if a coach wants a player gone.. the GM is going to see what they can do

its naive as (frank) to think otherwise

He signed that deal in 2011
- daeth

Ohhhhhhhhh. Ok.

My prediction for the leafs this year is that Bibeau steals the starting goalie job and leads them thru a deep playoff run. Thinking a big year coming for clarkson as well. Probably 50 points

No no no. Stop trying to change what you said.

You said the coach is to blame for not telling Nonis to make a trade...

And thats where I came in saying the coach doesnt get to demand that his boss do something. And that Nonis can see for himself a position needs to be upgraded..



Here's exactly what you said.

' i blame randy for not making adjustments or forcing nonis to make moves so he could make the adjustments.'
- jbold

your right thats what i said and i still stand by it whatever way you want to have the words put it together.

randy is to blame
the players are to blame
nonis is to blame

Are you talking about this goal?

- Atomic Wedgie

Oh wedgie, you make me laugh out loud.

He's single now.. So probably really hungover?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

partially yeah

then the coach sits the player, which the GM considers an asset, until the GM does trade him

if a coach wants a player gone.. the GM is going to see what they can do

its naive as (frank) to think otherwise
- Dozzer

You honestly think the coach will force a GM to trade a player?

Come on, look how many coaches were fired for doing what you said..

Its naive to think a GM will trade a player just because a coach doesnt like him.

See Kadri-Wilson..

your right thats what i said and i still stand by it whatever way you want to have the words put it together.

randy is to blame
the players are to blame
nonis is to blame
- Lucas Neilson

Sorry dude. But a coach doesnt tell or force a GM to make a trade. It doesnt work like that.

Johansen turns down 5.75 for 8 years?? Insane.
- burn

Not if you want out of Clb.

Kids gonna end up taking a bridge deal, we all know it
- PinkSock

With how low those 6 and 8 year offers are yeah, looks like it. They are really far off what he's probably looking for long term.

What would a big young center with 70+ point potential get on the open market long-term? $7M per?

partially yeah
- Dozzer

Drinking does not solve problems Dozzer

My prediction for the leafs this year is that Bibeau steals the starting goalie job and leads them thru a deep playoff run. Thinking a big year coming for clarkson as well. Probably 50 points
- TylerSeguin19

Looks like you skipped your Georgetown calculus class on extrapolation.

Sorry dude. But a coach doesnt tell or force a GM to make a trade. It doesnt work like that.
- jbold

may i ask why you think you know that?

work in many club front offices?

Did Carlyle force Nonis to trade Gardiner when he sat him?

What about forcing him to get an acceptable 4th line?


Most of you on here said that Nonis told Carlyle to play Gardiner..

Drinking does not solve problems Dozzer
- Yeti1181

who says i have a problem?

i am actually in a very good mood