Sure.


But what gives anyone the right to blame a coach because the GM won make a move...
- jbold

I think there's enough blame to go around for everyone from the GM on down. The team collapsed in the last 20 games. The GM did nothing at the deadline. The coach didn't fix the 40 to 50 shots against per game and the players just didn't get it done. I don't think the coach is more to blame than Nonis or Phaneuf or Clarkson or whomever fans want to point the finger at on any given day. The organization as a whole shyt the bed down the stretch.

Sportsnet are already running ads of him for their NHL game days, so depressing to think that what we have to look forward to.
- LeafMan

fair enough.
- mykokes

I play tennis

Sportsnet are already running ads of him for their NHL game days, so depressing to think that what we have to look forward to.
- LeafMan

They have a ton of people now for hockey, almost excessive

I play tennis
- AdamFrench

I hated playing tennis

Carlyle is the best coach for this Leafs team.
- Pecafan Fan

It's fun to watch you stir the pot.

They have a ton of people now for hockey, almost excessive
- Yeti1181

They really did a great job of hiring the worst of them - Healy, Cox, Stock, etc.

since the NHL avg shooting % is roughly 8% ..it can be ..but I calculated a little lower
- senstroll

What if it were all shots from the point and the boards?

Pretty dirty elbow right there. From what I've heard Gaudreau is fine.
Kid is probably the first flames prospect in years that the hype is actually dead on about. Kevin Hayes and Bill Arnold are going to miss him big time.
- mykokes

Sven Baertschi?
Sean Monahan?
Sam Bennett?

Burke's doing a good job there. They'll be competitive in a season or two.

What if it were all shots from the point and the boards?
- jribout

Jason Blake was a corsi god because of this..

They really did a great job of hiring the worst of them - Healy, Cox, Stock, etc.
- 1979AD

I can stand Stock, the other two I want to punch.

Sven Baertschi?
Sean Monahan?
Sam Bennett?

Burke's doing a good job there. They'll be competitive in a season or two.
- bloatedmosquito

Burke hasnt done that much in Calgary.

What if it were all shots from the point and the boards?
- jribout

then the leafs are good I guess... ignore all the data

Burke hasnt done that much in Calgary.
- jbold

You have to understand the situation Calgary was in before Burke got there. Complete mess from top down. He'll do what he always does and improve the on-ice product. He was the perfect choice for the Flames re-build.

while he was writing about how the leafs were not good..even though they were in a playoff spot.. people like you were tweeting him non stop crap

this site is littered with your trolling the whole time also

now he is a douche and a clown since you are but hurt he was right all along

good on him for calling out your BS
- senstroll

So the Leafs did what he's been calling for them to do (no results from it yet), so that makes him right.

By that logic, the people who were saying fancy stats are useless were right until this summer because before then, the team didn't use any of their fancy stat budget.

It's yet to be seen whether he's right or not. I believe they will benefit from this added layer of analysis, but it can't yet be stated as fact.

Sven Baertschi?
Sean Monahan?
Sam Bennett?

Burke's doing a good job there. They'll be competitive in a season or two.
- bloatedmosquito

I'm reffering to Backlund and Baertschi. Both are useful NHL players or will be. But I don't think either are a game breaker, nor should they be. Neither was drafted as a game breaker......plus I had to hear endlessly about how good Wotherspoon was going to be.

As for Monahan and Bennett....that's different. Monahan wasn't hyped at all, he was considered a good pick in a great draft class. And Bennet, he could've gone #1 this draft. To me, again you can't compare their hype to what was the hype behind Baertschi and Backlund.

Johnny "Hockey" earned his hype...and it didnt happen overnight. He put up several stellar seasons before it reached its apex.

You have to understand the situation Calgary was in before Burke got there. Complete mess from top down. He'll do what he always does and improve the on-ice product. He was the perfect choice for the Flames re-build.
- bloatedmosquito

I'm sure you said the same glowing things about him while he was managing the Leafs.

I'm sure you said the same glowing things about him while he was managing the Leafs.
- 1979AD

They really did a great job of hiring the worst of them - Healy, Cox, Stock, etc.
- 1979AD

I actually like Healy, because he'll tell you exactly what he is thinking. A lot of times I disagree with it, but at least he's not afraid to put it out there.

Case in point: two lockouts ago, he was the biggest NHLPA mouthpiece out there - he completely embarrassed himself every time he opened his mouth.

Fast forward a few years, and he takes a job at the NHLPA. He quickly figured out just how bad the organization was (they jerked him around and then iirc they poop-canned him). So last lockout, he was completely on the other side - just kept going on and on about how the players had no idea what they were doing.

Another guy who everyone hates but me is Pierre McGuire. He can be very insightful. He just needs to drop his monster truck rally announcer routine - it's stupid and annoys everyone.

Jason Blake was a corsi god because of this..
- jbold

So what does that tell you? It tells me that when his shooting percentage was decent he was a very useful player. It also says that he stopped going to the tough areas with the puck to score his goals. In NY he did. Again, Corsi is useful in assessing the player, but its even more useful when combined with shooting percentage and graphs showing where the player goes to score his points.

Corsi, Fenwick etc all on their own are only a measurement/way to grade a player, they're at their best when they're used with other tools to measure.

So the Leafs did what he's been calling for them to do (no results from it yet), so that makes him right.

By that logic, the people who were saying fancy stats are useless were right until this summer because before then, the team didn't use any of their fancy stat budget.

It's yet to be seen whether he's right or not. I believe they will benefit from this added layer of analysis, but it can't yet be stated as fact.
- 1979AD

That is exactly what I have been saying. Will it help? Remains to be seen, it is a tool to be used but is not the be all and end all to the game of hockey, if it was, fire all the scouts.

You cannot assume a 190 foot shot is a scoring chance, it is flawed. How many of those shots are floaters from a distance, not all goalies are Toskaleque.
- LeafMan

2945 shots against = 256 goals against

2695 shots against = ??? goals against.


it's a pretty simple concept imho.

You cannot assume a 190 foot shot is a scoring chance, it is flawed. How many of those shots are floaters from a distance, not all goalies are Toskaleque.
- LeafMan

more shots against is bad... stop trying to pretend they are all weak meaningless shots

you chose to think otherwise..thats fine... but trust me your thinking is much more flawed...and probably in line with RC

then the leafs are good I guess... ignore all the data
- senstroll

We'll ignore date until you watch a game.

Looking at data is all you have.

I bet you think Jason Blake was good because he had a good corsi taking soft wristers from the top of the circle.

That is exactly what I have been saying. Will it help? Remains to be seen, it is a tool to be used but is not the be all and end all to the game of hockey, if it was, fire all the scouts.
- LeafMan

Nothing can be the end all of anything including just watching the games because you will miss things along the way. That's why people started doing the advance stats.