NHL Blue Jackets @BlueJacketsNHL
John Davidson: #CBJ went as long as an 8-year, $46 million offer to Johansen's camp. Both were declined. "We're trying to get this done."



Jesus. He should fire his agent... Thats a solid contract for him.
- jbold

He thinks he's an elite superstar after 1 year, I almost want him to flame out and get nothing going forward

Have a good one guys.

This. I fear that this whole analytics thing is changing the conversation to stupid pointless numbers instead of what you see with your own eyes. Every night after a win or loss it's just going to be idiots in here rambling about numbers trying to establish themselves as "analytics gurus". It's already getting to that point.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I understand people wanting to use them, for me they tell me nothing that I already know watching the game but I'm not saying dismiss the stats because yes, sometimes our eyes can deceive us but it is still the best barometer to judge a player.

He thinks he's an elite superstar after 1 year, I almost want him to flame out and get nothing going forward
- Yeti1181

Im surprised a team hasnt sent him an offersheet.

Im sure many thinks he's on the rise to becoming a first line center.

Have a good one guys.
- mykokes

Dont tell me what to do.

Sorry, too many words. Next time I'll keep it to tweet length.
- bloatedmosquito

It wasn't the number of words it was the type of words.

Dont tell me what to do.
- jbold

Oh I'll tell you

Im surprised a team hasnt sent him an offersheet.

Im sure many thinks he's on the rise to becoming a first line center.
- jbold

I don't think other teams want to risk big money on him either

Shots on goals aren't advanced statistics.

The less you control the puck, the less shots you take and the more shots you allow. And chances are, the more goals you allow.

The Leafs are bottom 5 in shots for, dead last in shots against.
They're also 26th in Goals Against.

I'm not sure what you and Leafman are trying to say, but this is pretty damn clear to me.
- Pecafan Fan

Unless you are the New Jersey Devils.

You do know that I stopped caring and stopped reading your posts the moment you got butthurt and called me a troll for my opinion.

Go read some more mirtle articles, champ.
- jbold

Come on, don't be like that. Don't take your ball and go home. Win this argument or concede defeat.

He thinks he's an elite superstar after 1 year, I almost want him to flame out and get nothing going forward
- Yeti1181

That contract sucks for him if he becomes a 70+ point player and the cap goes up. I can see why he wouldn't like that deal.

I wonder why NHL teams just dont fire these professionals and seasoned scouts because Adv stats can do their job for them
- jbold

That makes sense, because the two could never work together.

Come on, don't be like that. Don't take your ball and go home. Win this argument or concede defeat.
- bloatedmosquito

No such thing as winning an argument with stupid people. They just annoy you to the point where you just ignore them. Hoping they'd shut up and go away

Unless you are the New Jersey Devils.
- Atomic Wedgie

And insist on giving the net to an aging Brodeur

NHL Blue Jackets @BlueJacketsNHL
John Davidson: #CBJ went as long as an 8-year, $46 million offer to Johansen's camp. Both were declined. "We're trying to get this done."

Jesus. He should fire his agent... Thats a solid contract for him.
- jbold

Johansen and his agent are trying to get the hell out of Clb. Kind of similar to the Kane situation in Winnipeg.

And insist on giving the net to an aging Brodeur
- Pecafan Fan

This trend is beautiful. Blame the coach when it comes to the Leafs.

Blame other factors when it comes to other teams.

Hilarious.


Is it Marty's fault NJ couldnt score goals?

This. I fear that this whole analytics thing is changing the conversation to stupid pointless numbers instead of what you see with your own eyes. Every night after a win or loss it's just going to be idiots in here rambling about numbers trying to establish themselves as "analytics gurus". It's already getting to that point.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Here's another huge problem I have with advanced analytics: it's based upon absolute garbage numbers.

Do you know who was second in the NHL in hits last year?

Cody Franson.

Yeah, that's quality data.

Here's another huge problem I have with advanced analytics: it's based upon absolute garbage numbers.

Do you know who was second in the NHL in hits last year?

Cody Franson.

Yeah, that's quality data.
- Atomic Wedgie

Imagine if he was playing for the Islanders? He'd be first.. by 200 hits..

The guy who tracks that for the isles is biased as (frank).

This trend is beautiful. Blame the coach when it comes to the Leafs.

Blame other factors when it comes to other teams.

Hilarious.


Is it Marty's fault NJ couldnt score goals?
- jbold

no, that's because they lost Kovalchuk and Parise.

edit; but you should know that, since you watch the games and others don't

I understand people wanting to use them, for me they tell me nothing that I already know watching the game but I'm not saying dismiss the stats because yes, sometimes our eyes can deceive us but it is still the best barometer to judge a player.
- LeafMan

I agree, and I think there is benefits for using advanced stats. But if Kadri makes a nice toe-drag deke to score a goal I don't want to hear about how that goal was scored because of a bunch of numbers. It's kinda like people care less about the game and more about being a detective solving cases.. To each their own I guess.

Speed. Alot of the west teams actually have issues with speed. Its why the Leafs didn't do so bad against the big bad pacific teams....though San Jose plays a system that shutsdown the leafs perimeter play.

As for Montreal: An unorthodox attack, speed. P.K. Subban as a quarterback, is a very hard player to defend against.

Both instances the offense finds a way to capitalize on defensive breakdowns.

Also both teams had great goaltending.
- mykokes

but but but the adv stats say

no, that's because they lost Kovalchuk and Parise.
- Pecafan Fan

Blaming other factors I see

but but but the adv stats say
- jribout

The adv stats dont say how fast the players were skating


HOW WILL WE EVER KNOW THEY WERE FAST?!?

You do know that I stopped caring and stopped reading your posts the moment you got butthurt and called me a troll for my opinion.

Go read some more mirtle articles, champ.
- jbold

I didnt call you a troll for an opinion.. I did for the 100's of posts where you go and troll

Blaming other factors I see
- jbold

They had a good system.

But no one to score goals.

There's this thing called "talent" that is also part of the equation.