Two words: Patrick White

In the 1st round? How does something like that happen?
- bloatedmosquito

Same as Jordan Schroeder.

Same as Jordan Schroeder.
- VANTEL

White was a reach, Schroeder was a faller who was projected to be like top 15(similar to Shinkaruk). Even more similar is that Schroeder's hoemtown team(Minny) passed on him similar to Shinkaruk(Calgary). The pick looked very promising at the time.

This is why I keep saying it would not hurt us to be bad for two or three years.
- VANTEL

You can draft excellent prospects and not be bad, just draft better and stop trading away picks. Besides, I said it before, we've got too many good players, that want to be here, to be a really bad team.

The Islanders have had seven top ten picks in the past ten years, including six top five picks and a first overall. It's not a guaranteed success method.

White was a reach, Schroeder was a faller who was projected to be like top 15(similar to Shinkaruk). Even more similar is that Schroeder's hoemtown team(Minny) passed on him similar to Shinkaruk(Calgary). The pick looked very promising at the time.
- Nucker101

No it didn't or 10 some teams wouldn't have passed on him.

White was a reach, Schroeder was a faller who was projected to be like top 15(similar to Shinkaruk). Even more similar is that Schroeder's hoemtown team(Minny) passed on him similar to Shinkaruk(Calgary). The pick looked very promising at the time.
- Nucker101

What did you think of Cedarholm? I told you he looked good last year.

You can draft excellent prospects and not be bad, just draft better and stop trading away picks. Besides, I said it before, we've got too many good players, that want to be here, to be a really bad team.

The Islanders have had seven top ten picks in the past ten years, including six top five picks and a first overall. It's not a guaranteed success method.
- LeftCoaster

McDavid

You may get your wish
- bezz44

For shame

McDavid
- VANTEL

John Tavares

John Tavares
- LeftCoaster

Who have they built around JT? Snow and Wang are idiots

No it didn't or 10 some teams wouldn't have passed on him.
- LeftCoaster

Do you not remember how everyone was basically screaming for Gillis to pick him? I know you've mentioned that you didn't like it, but I'd say 90% of Canucks fans were happy with the pick. He was considered BPA.

What did you think of Cedarholm? I told you he looked good last year.
- VANTEL

Opinion hasn't changed. Hope he proves me wrong.

You can draft excellent prospects and not be bad, just draft better and stop trading away picks. Besides, I said it before, we've got too many good players, that want to be here, to be a really bad team.

The Islanders have had seven top ten picks in the past ten years, including six top five picks and a first overall. It's not a guaranteed success method.
- LeftCoaster

I think it's more about how you develop those prospects once you have them. You can have a bunch of Top 5 picks and pi$$ them all away with poor development.

Opinion hasn't changed. Hope he proves me wrong.
- Nucker101

I say in three years he will be playing 5/6 th spot and will progress to 3/4

Who have they built around JT? Snow and Wang are idiots
- VANTEL

That's not fair, I can't argue any points around that.

I think it's more about how you develop those prospects once you have them. You can have a bunch of Top 5 picks and pi$$ them all away with poor development.
- PetrolSexual

Islanders owner put his wallet away and never once paid to the max of the cap with top end talent. He always struggled to reach the floor and surrounded good prospects with bums

That's not fair, I can't argue any points around that.
- LeftCoaster

Do you not remember how everyone was basically screaming for Gillis to pick him? I know you've mentioned that you didn't like it, but I'd say 90% of Canucks fans were happy with the pick. He was considered BPA.
- Nucker101

You're overstating it, I'm somebody and I sure as hell didn't want him to pick him, neither did the guys I know in and around the game. Poor selection and I turned out to be correct.

I think it's more about how you develop those prospects once you have them. You can have a bunch of Top 5 picks and pi$$ them all away with poor development.
- PetrolSexual

That's a large part of it yes, only recently in the past three years have they actually started to develop guys like Strome and Brock Nelson.

You're overstating it, I'm somebody and I sure as hell didn't want him to pick him, neither did the guys I know in and around the game. Poor selection and I turned out to be correct.
- LeftCoaster

I'll link you to the HF and CDC draft day threads.

You're overstating it, I'm somebody and I sure as hell didn't want him to pick him, neither did the guys I know in and around the game. Poor selection and I turned out to be correct.
- LeftCoaster

Last year I wanted Nichushkin and was ok with Shink.

Virtanen is listed as 6'1 now. If he can still grow an inch or two still that would be a great size for a PF

I'll link you to the HF and CDC draft day threads.
- Nucker101

Appreciate it but I've always maintained you don't pick little guys with a first round pick. I know some, perhaps a lot were excited about getting him, but I wasn't.

A perfect example of why we've never won a Cup. Professional scouts and NHL personnel, from my experiences, which are limited, usually take a flyer on guys like that in the mid rounds, like the Flames did with Gaudreau or the Bruins did with Marchand. Regardless if he was ranked high by some. Just my opinion.

Appreciate it but I've always maintained you don't pick little guys with a first round pick. I know some, perhaps a lot were excited about getting him, but I wasn't.

A perfect example of why we've never won a Cup. Professional scouts and NHL personnel, from my experiences, which are limited, usually take a flyer on guys like that in the mid rounds, like the Flames did with Gaudreau. Regardless if he was ranked high by some. Just my opinion.
- LeftCoaster

Pat Kane ?


I know few and far between with the success ratio

Virtanen is listed as 6'1 now. If he can still grow an inch or two still that would be a great size for a PF
- VANTEL

He has only been 18 for a month, I'm expecting 2 to 3 inches more from him.

Pat Kane ?


I know few and far between with the success ratio
- VANTEL

He was ranked 1st overall, they usually get those right.