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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I remember Slepyshev being considered a second round talent in his draft year. I was hoping the Leafs would take a flyer on him but I'm pretty sure you told me even then about his desire to stay at home, Frenchie. - BetterCallSaul
Ya, I did a profile on him. He was a late first early second talent, but with not even a shred of leaving Russia for 3 years it was a death sentence for being drafted then.
Also. Kamenev (recent first round skill turned second round pick by Nashville) is playing like a monster thus far in the K. He gained 10lbs but kept his speed, nuts. |
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Ya, I did a profile on him. He was a late first early second talent, but with not even a shred of leaving Russia for 3 years it was a death sentence for being drafted then.
Also. Kamenev (recent first round skill turned second round pick by Nashville) is playing like a monster thus far in the K. He gained 10lbs but kept his speed, nuts. - AdamFrench
How's buchnevich doing? |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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This could be the problem! - K-man25
There's lots of problems...but this isn't it....just got a pay closer attention to see that. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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How's buchnevich doing? - rangerdanger94
Really well, he's playing on the first line right now, being given PP time. He's another great pick. Lots of high talent sliding because they have the wrong birth certificate, just like Kucherov for the Lightning. |
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The_Hinter
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Im here because i have nothing better to do., AB Joined: 07.11.2010
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There's lots of problems...but this isn't it....just got a pay closer attention to see that. - Jeropotato
Hes a Flames fan, he'll soon understand. |
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This could be the problem! - K-man25
You seem wise
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CanesFans94
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: Rijeka Joined: 06.27.2011
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I don't get this kid Anton Slepyshev, when I watch him he is such a good player, de really looks like star player potential and somehow his name never appears on scoresheet. I really think he could brake out like Prokhorkin did last season. And for you KHL fans, keep an eye on Vladi Kamenev of NSH, gonna be a stud. |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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I'm doing it for every goalie outside of those who look like they're "can't miss." - AdamFrench
Idea: Could opt for "potential NHL Goalie" or something of the like... |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Lagesson huh? Interesting.
Love me some 2 way Swedish defenders - hugefemale dog77
There seems to be quite a few people that really like him. At the same time those people seemed to really like Omark, Lander and Prv. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Idea: Could opt for "potential NHL Goalie" or something of the like... - Mashadar
Almost any goalie that is a legitimate prospect has that chance, and very few ever have the "potential" to be a backup, otherwise they would never be selected. That's the issue. It's easy to see the potential franchise guys, but the difference between a potential starter and a "split starter" basically a step above a backup is almost impossible to tell. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Almost any goalie that is a legitimate prospect has that chance, and very few ever have the "potential" to be a backup, otherwise they would never be selected. That's the issue. It's easy to see the potential franchise guys, but the difference between a potential starter and a "split starter" basically a step above a backup is almost impossible to tell. - AdamFrench
Of course it is if you are picked up by the Oilers you simply have backup at best potential. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Of course it is if you are picked up by the Oilers you simply have backup at best potential. - Lahey
Well...happened to Samu Perhonen and Olivier Roy, so the precedent seems poignant. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Well...happened to Samu Perhonen and Olivier Roy, so the precedent seems poignant. - AdamFrench
Dubnyk, JDD, Pitton'
I still see little point in drafting goalies. What we did with Brossoit makes more sense. Acquire a guy after he has a couple more years of development under his belt. And even now, we still dont' know what we have with him. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Dubnyk, JDD, Pitton - Lahey
Dubnyk was poised for eliteness remember? Or so we were told after one decent season. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Dubnyk was poised for eliteness remember? Or so we were told after one decent season. - AdamFrench
I never thought he was elite, but I figured he'd be one of those guys that lingers in that 1a 1b area. Although it appears there might've been some issues in his personal life that (frank)ed with his head. No one gets that bad that quick. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Dubnyk, JDD, Pitton'
I still see little point in drafting goalies. What we did with Brossoit makes more sense. Acquire a guy after he has a couple more years of development under his belt. And even now, we still dont' know what we have with him. - Lahey
Problem with that philosophy is it can bite you in the as hard. Remember when everybody in the media poop on Montreal for selecting Price at 5? That video is great with old baldy expunging why the Habs were fully stacked at goalie with Theodore, Huet, Garon and Yann Danis, they had four starters in his mind, why not pick Gilbert Brule instead?
Well, now we see what an elite goalie is versus guys who all (aside from Danis) had stints as "starters" but can't keep it up. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Problem with that philosophy is it can bite you in the as hard. Remember when everybody in the media poop on Montreal for selecting Price at 5? That video is great with old baldy expunging why the Habs were fully stacked at goalie with Theodore, Huet, Garon and Yann Danis, they had four starters in his mind, why not pick Gilbert Brule instead?
Well, now we see what an elite goalie is versus guys who all (aside from Danis) had stints as "starters" but can't keep it up. - AdamFrench
Sure you get the one offs, but there is a reason why goalies aren't being picked that high and it's not because the goalies all suck nowadays. MTL made a huge risk and it paid off for the team, but how about the GM? Gm's don't always have the shelf life to see their longshot picks pay off and in this case Gainey wasn't around to see Price be elite franchise goalie that he is today. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Sure you get the one offs, but there is a reason why goalies aren't being picked that high and it's not because the goalies all suck nowadays. MTL made a huge risk and it paid off for the team, but how about the GM? Gm's don't always have the shelf life to see their longshot picks pay off and in this case Gainey wasn't around to see Price be elite franchise goalie that he is today. - Lahey
I know, but the real "franchise" ones do have that feel to them and get picked early. It doesn't mean they will succeed. But you get a certain vibe from them post lockout where picking a goalie early has become the rarest of occasions. This isn't to say you should pick goalies early because they are the best goalie in the draft, it's just that picking highly ranked goalies continuously in the 2nd/3rd round will likely lead to something, and not just a big block of AHL/ECHL competition. |
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ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner Joined: 06.25.2013
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I never thought he was elite, but I figured he'd be one of those guys that lingers in that 1a 1b area. Although it appears there might've been some issues in his personal life that (frank)ed with his head. No one gets that bad that quick. - Lahey
that seems to be the only possible thing that made him go from solid to crap in a few short months. |
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ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner Joined: 06.25.2013
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I know, but the real "franchise" ones do have that feel to them and get picked early. It doesn't mean they will succeed. But you get a certain vibe from them post lockout where picking a goalie early has become the rarest of occasions. This isn't to say you should pick goalies early because they are the best goalie in the draft, it's just that picking highly ranked goalies continuously in the 2nd/3rd round will likely lead to something, and not just a big block of AHL/ECHL competition. - AdamFrench
DiPietro? |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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DiPietro? - ChetManly
Without a robotic groin, was he not on his way towards it?
Also I did mention after the lockout when teams were legitimately afraid to pick goalies early and goalies draft rankings have never been lower and never will be the same.
I would predict no goalie will ever be picked 1st overall in NHL history. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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I know, but the real "franchise" ones do have that feel to them and get picked early. It doesn't mean they will succeed. But you get a certain vibe from them post lockout where picking a goalie early has become the rarest of occasions. This isn't to say you should pick goalies early because they are the best goalie in the draft, it's just that picking highly ranked goalies continuously in the 2nd/3rd round will likely lead to something, and not just a big block of AHL/ECHL competition. - AdamFrench
I don't mind picking them in round 3 and on, but even the second round where are the Neuvirth's, Enroth's, Markstrom's, Allen's etc...
It's still damn risky |
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ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner Joined: 06.25.2013
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Without a robotic groin, was he not on his way towards it? - AdamFrench
I can't remember, he was playing when I took some time away from hockey and the NHL. I thought it was mainly injuries that derailed the guy. Is that correct? |
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