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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 16 @ 8:03 AM ET
I remember Slepyshev being considered a second round talent in his draft year. I was hoping the Leafs would take a flyer on him but I'm pretty sure you told me even then about his desire to stay at home, Frenchie.
- BetterCallSaul

Ya, I did a profile on him. He was a late first early second talent, but with not even a shred of leaving Russia for 3 years it was a death sentence for being drafted then.

Also. Kamenev (recent first round skill turned second round pick by Nashville) is playing like a monster thus far in the K. He gained 10lbs but kept his speed, nuts.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Sep 16 @ 8:15 AM ET
Ya, I did a profile on him. He was a late first early second talent, but with not even a shred of leaving Russia for 3 years it was a death sentence for being drafted then.

Also. Kamenev (recent first round skill turned second round pick by Nashville) is playing like a monster thus far in the K. He gained 10lbs but kept his speed, nuts.

- AdamFrench

How's buchnevich doing?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Sep 16 @ 8:16 AM ET
This could be the problem!
- K-man25


There's lots of problems...but this isn't it....just got a pay closer attention to see that.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 16 @ 8:18 AM ET
How's buchnevich doing?
- rangerdanger94

Really well, he's playing on the first line right now, being given PP time. He's another great pick. Lots of high talent sliding because they have the wrong birth certificate, just like Kucherov for the Lightning.
The_Hinter
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Im here because i have nothing better to do., AB
Joined: 07.11.2010

Sep 16 @ 8:18 AM ET
There's lots of problems...but this isn't it....just got a pay closer attention to see that.
- Jeropotato

Hes a Flames fan, he'll soon understand.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:19 AM ET
This could be the problem!
- K-man25





You seem wise



CanesFans94
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Rijeka
Joined: 06.27.2011

Sep 16 @ 8:23 AM ET
I don't get this kid Anton Slepyshev, when I watch him he is such a good player, de really looks like star player potential and somehow his name never appears on scoresheet. I really think he could brake out like Prokhorkin did last season. And for you KHL fans, keep an eye on Vladi Kamenev of NSH, gonna be a stud.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 16 @ 9:08 AM ET
Adam French: Top-10 Prospects : Edmonton Oilers (10-6)
- AdamFrench


Laurent Brossoit : Goaltender.....

.... potential: Goalie.


Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:10 AM ET
Potential : Goalie

Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Sep 16 @ 9:11 AM ET
I'm doing it for every goalie outside of those who look like they're "can't miss."
- AdamFrench


Idea: Could opt for "potential NHL Goalie" or something of the like...
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:11 AM ET
Lagesson huh? Interesting.
Love me some 2 way Swedish defenders

- hugefemale dog77

There seems to be quite a few people that really like him. At the same time those people seemed to really like Omark, Lander and Prv.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:14 AM ET
Idea: Could opt for "potential NHL Goalie" or something of the like...
- Mashadar

Almost any goalie that is a legitimate prospect has that chance, and very few ever have the "potential" to be a backup, otherwise they would never be selected. That's the issue. It's easy to see the potential franchise guys, but the difference between a potential starter and a "split starter" basically a step above a backup is almost impossible to tell.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:25 AM ET
Almost any goalie that is a legitimate prospect has that chance, and very few ever have the "potential" to be a backup, otherwise they would never be selected. That's the issue. It's easy to see the potential franchise guys, but the difference between a potential starter and a "split starter" basically a step above a backup is almost impossible to tell.
- AdamFrench

Of course it is if you are picked up by the Oilers you simply have backup at best potential.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:28 AM ET
Of course it is if you are picked up by the Oilers you simply have backup at best potential.
- Lahey

Well...happened to Samu Perhonen and Olivier Roy, so the precedent seems poignant.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:50 AM ET
Well...happened to Samu Perhonen and Olivier Roy, so the precedent seems poignant.
- AdamFrench

Dubnyk, JDD, Pitton'

I still see little point in drafting goalies. What we did with Brossoit makes more sense. Acquire a guy after he has a couple more years of development under his belt. And even now, we still dont' know what we have with him.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:53 AM ET
Dubnyk, JDD, Pitton
- Lahey

Dubnyk was poised for eliteness remember? Or so we were told after one decent season.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:54 AM ET
Dubnyk was poised for eliteness remember? Or so we were told after one decent season.
- AdamFrench

I never thought he was elite, but I figured he'd be one of those guys that lingers in that 1a 1b area. Although it appears there might've been some issues in his personal life that (frank)ed with his head. No one gets that bad that quick.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 16 @ 9:55 AM ET
Dubnyk, JDD, Pitton'

I still see little point in drafting goalies. What we did with Brossoit makes more sense. Acquire a guy after he has a couple more years of development under his belt. And even now, we still dont' know what we have with him.

- Lahey

Problem with that philosophy is it can bite you in the as hard. Remember when everybody in the media poop on Montreal for selecting Price at 5? That video is great with old baldy expunging why the Habs were fully stacked at goalie with Theodore, Huet, Garon and Yann Danis, they had four starters in his mind, why not pick Gilbert Brule instead?


Well, now we see what an elite goalie is versus guys who all (aside from Danis) had stints as "starters" but can't keep it up.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:01 AM ET
Problem with that philosophy is it can bite you in the as hard. Remember when everybody in the media poop on Montreal for selecting Price at 5? That video is great with old baldy expunging why the Habs were fully stacked at goalie with Theodore, Huet, Garon and Yann Danis, they had four starters in his mind, why not pick Gilbert Brule instead?


Well, now we see what an elite goalie is versus guys who all (aside from Danis) had stints as "starters" but can't keep it up.

- AdamFrench

Sure you get the one offs, but there is a reason why goalies aren't being picked that high and it's not because the goalies all suck nowadays. MTL made a huge risk and it paid off for the team, but how about the GM? Gm's don't always have the shelf life to see their longshot picks pay off and in this case Gainey wasn't around to see Price be elite franchise goalie that he is today.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:04 AM ET
Sure you get the one offs, but there is a reason why goalies aren't being picked that high and it's not because the goalies all suck nowadays. MTL made a huge risk and it paid off for the team, but how about the GM? Gm's don't always have the shelf life to see their longshot picks pay off and in this case Gainey wasn't around to see Price be elite franchise goalie that he is today.
- Lahey

I know, but the real "franchise" ones do have that feel to them and get picked early. It doesn't mean they will succeed. But you get a certain vibe from them post lockout where picking a goalie early has become the rarest of occasions. This isn't to say you should pick goalies early because they are the best goalie in the draft, it's just that picking highly ranked goalies continuously in the 2nd/3rd round will likely lead to something, and not just a big block of AHL/ECHL competition.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Sep 16 @ 10:05 AM ET
I never thought he was elite, but I figured he'd be one of those guys that lingers in that 1a 1b area. Although it appears there might've been some issues in his personal life that (frank)ed with his head. No one gets that bad that quick.
- Lahey

that seems to be the only possible thing that made him go from solid to crap in a few short months.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Sep 16 @ 10:06 AM ET
I know, but the real "franchise" ones do have that feel to them and get picked early. It doesn't mean they will succeed. But you get a certain vibe from them post lockout where picking a goalie early has become the rarest of occasions. This isn't to say you should pick goalies early because they are the best goalie in the draft, it's just that picking highly ranked goalies continuously in the 2nd/3rd round will likely lead to something, and not just a big block of AHL/ECHL competition.
- AdamFrench

DiPietro?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:08 AM ET
DiPietro?
- ChetManly

Without a robotic groin, was he not on his way towards it?

Also I did mention after the lockout when teams were legitimately afraid to pick goalies early and goalies draft rankings have never been lower and never will be the same.

I would predict no goalie will ever be picked 1st overall in NHL history.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:09 AM ET
I know, but the real "franchise" ones do have that feel to them and get picked early. It doesn't mean they will succeed. But you get a certain vibe from them post lockout where picking a goalie early has become the rarest of occasions. This isn't to say you should pick goalies early because they are the best goalie in the draft, it's just that picking highly ranked goalies continuously in the 2nd/3rd round will likely lead to something, and not just a big block of AHL/ECHL competition.
- AdamFrench

I don't mind picking them in round 3 and on, but even the second round where are the Neuvirth's, Enroth's, Markstrom's, Allen's etc...

It's still damn risky
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Sep 16 @ 10:09 AM ET
Without a robotic groin, was he not on his way towards it?
- AdamFrench

I can't remember, he was playing when I took some time away from hockey and the NHL. I thought it was mainly injuries that derailed the guy. Is that correct?
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