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Ogilthorpe2
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Sep 11 @ 10:49 PM ET
Big deal that the league takes the spin-o-rama away from shoot-outs, I still think that most shoot-out attempts are outside the rule the shootout - the puck needs to be always moving toward the goalline. It still stinks.
- powerenforcer

Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to make a spin-o-rama move where this happens.
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 10:49 PM ET
Triple post
- powerenforcer


Hat trick post
Ogilthorpe2
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Sep 11 @ 10:50 PM ET
FWIW to those local to chiacgo... Rosati's changed their marinara sauce at some point over the last number of months. The good spicy Chicago style marinara is gone and has been replaced by a terrible tomato paste style sauce.

No more need to get Panzaratti's while in town anymore.

- stljam

Was never a big Rosati's fan. Jake's and Barnaby's were always my go to places for thin crust.
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 10:51 PM ET
Was never a big Rosati's fan. Jake's and Barnaby's were always my go to places for thin crust.
- Ogilthorpe2


Never got Pizza there. No way I am getting thin crust in Chicago. The Panzaratti was like a much better Calzone.
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 10:53 PM ET
Was never a big Rosati's fan. Jake's and Barnaby's were always my go to places for thin crust.
- Ogilthorpe2


If you are in St. Louis and want thin crust pizza, Dewey's and PI are good/acceptable. Fortel's maybe. The rest is garbage.
StLBravesFan
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Sep 11 @ 10:56 PM ET
Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to make a spin-o-rama move where this happens.
- Ogilthorpe2


I'm sure it is, but in practice, I haven't seen it.
StLBravesFan
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Sep 11 @ 10:58 PM ET
Was never a big Rosati's fan. Jake's and Barnaby's were always my go to places for thin crust.
- Ogilthorpe2


Barnaby's yes - the one in Northbrook is an excellent cornmeal crispy crust (not sure all of the Barnaby's have the same pizzas).
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 10:58 PM ET
http://www.thehockeynews....etsk-seized-by-armed-men/

And Sobotka picked playing there over the NHL.....
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 10:59 PM ET
Barnaby's yes - the one in Northbrook is an excellent cornmeal crispy crust (not sure all of the Barnaby's have the same pizzas).
- StLBravesFan


Hmmm....perhaps a lunch or dinner place during the periodic Botanical Garden visit? Thanks for the info.
Ogilthorpe2
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Sep 11 @ 11:02 PM ET
I'm sure it is, but in practice, I haven't seen it.
- StLBravesFan

I've seen it.

The thing to keep in mind is how fast is the player moving toward the net when he spins. If the player is moving fast enough forward, then even if he pulls the puck "back" the puck may actually still be moving forward, just at a slower rate. If you're in the front seat of a car moving 50 mph and throw a ball into the back seat at 25 mph, the ball appears to move backwards in the car, but is still actually moving forward in relation to the ground.
Ogilthorpe2
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Sep 11 @ 11:05 PM ET
Barnaby's yes - the one in Northbrook is an excellent cornmeal crispy crust (not sure all of the Barnaby's have the same pizzas).
- StLBravesFan

I've eaten at a few. Was at the one in Arlington Heights pretty much every Friday night for the first 16 years of my life. It's basically the same. Best value out there too. Two apps, large pie, and a pitcher of beer will set you back a whopping $25.
Ogilthorpe2
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Sep 11 @ 11:07 PM ET
Never got Pizza there. No way I am getting thin crust in Chicago. The Panzaratti was like a much better Calzone.
- stljam

Because it's fried.

Fried = better...everyone knows that
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 11:08 PM ET
I've seen it.

The thing to keep in mind is how fast is the player moving toward the net when he spins. If the player is moving fast enough forward, then even if he pulls the puck "back" the puck may actually still be moving forward, just at a slower rate. If you're in the front seat of a car moving 50 mph and throw a ball into the back seat at 25 mph, the ball appears to move backwards in the car, but is still actually moving forward in relation to the ground.

- Ogilthorpe2


Very true. Having said that, I think it would be very difficult for a ref to accurately determine whether or not it was moving forward the entire time. As a result, imho, the spin-o-rama has to either be blatantly legal or illegal, regardless of whether or not the puck was moving forward.
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 11:10 PM ET
Because it's fried.

Fried = better...everyone knows that

- Ogilthorpe2


Seemed basted and baked rather than fried. Interesting. I'll have to ask my wife about that. She has had them at the original family owned locations.
Ogilthorpe2
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Sep 11 @ 11:17 PM ET
Seemed basted and baked rather than fried. Interesting. I'll have to ask my wife about that. She had them at the original family owned locations.
- stljam

I never had one from Rosati's, but at my local watering hole/pizza joint the only difference between a calzone and a panzaratti is that one is baked and the other is fried.

With that...I'm off to bed. Gotta drive the bus in the morning.
StLBravesFan
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Sep 11 @ 11:23 PM ET
Hmmm....perhaps a lunch or dinner place during the periodic Botanical Garden visit? Thanks for the info.
- stljam


Yes - right across the highway from the BG.
StLBravesFan
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Sep 11 @ 11:25 PM ET
I never had one from Rosati's, but at my local watering hole/pizza joint the only difference between a calzone and a panzaratti is that one is baked and the other is fried.

With that...I'm off to bed. Gotta drive the bus in the morning.

- Ogilthorpe2


Fly safe.
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 11:34 PM ET
I never had one from Rosati's, but at my local watering hole/pizza joint the only difference between a calzone and a panzaratti is that one is baked and the other is fried.

With that...I'm off to bed. Gotta drive the bus in the morning.

- Ogilthorpe2


Interesting and Godspeed.
stljam
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Sep 11 @ 11:38 PM ET
OT - Giancarlo Stanton got nailed tonight. You can see the blood pouring onto the ground out of his face. They say it is only a laceration. I'll be surprised if there aren't any broken bones in his face.
SimpleJack
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Sep 12 @ 2:00 AM ET
OT - Giancarlo Stanton got nailed tonight. You can see the blood pouring onto the ground out of his face. They say it is only a laceration. I'll be surprised if there aren't any broken bones in his face.
- stljam


It still amazes me that because of some unwritten code baseball pitchers can intentionally hurl baseballs at other players. Not saying what happened to Stanton was intentional, but look at what can potentially happen depending on where players get hit. Nobody can be completely certain that every intentional HBP is going to be directly on target(which is supposedly the back, but who knows, maybe some guys really do aim for the head as well). Its an absolute joke when you think about the level of damage that can occur. If it were up to me, every retaliatory HBP would constitute a 50 game ban, 2nd offenders 100 games, so on and so forth. What makes it worse is that baseball isn't a contact/physical sport. And these guys are gonna stand 60 feet away and whip balls at eachother? Not only is that more dangerous(though not enough people seem to realize or care about how dangerous it truly is), but its cheap and wussy. Why not just skip that and let the pitchers who want to initiate the confrontation charge home plate and use fists instead of enticing the batter to charge them first? Thats a whole hell of a lot safer than the ball whipping. If nobody honestly cares about the safety then hell, lets create a new unwritten code that allows the batter to whip his bat back at the pitcher.
mrpaulish
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Sep 12 @ 7:38 AM ET
OT - Giancarlo Stanton got nailed tonight. You can see the blood pouring onto the ground out of his face. They say it is only a laceration. I'll be surprised if there aren't any broken bones in his face.
- stljam



That was a whole lot of nasty . OMFG
StLBravesFan
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Sep 12 @ 8:24 AM ET
It still amazes me that because of some unwritten code baseball pitchers can intentionally hurl baseballs at other players. Not saying what happened to Stanton was intentional, but look at what can potentially happen depending on where players get hit. Nobody can be completely certain that every intentional HBP is going to be directly on target(which is supposedly the back, but who knows, maybe some guys really do aim for the head as well). Its an absolute joke when you think about the level of damage that can occur. If it were up to me, every retaliatory HBP would constitute a 50 game ban, 2nd offenders 100 games, so on and so forth. What makes it worse is that baseball isn't a contact/physical sport. And these guys are gonna stand 60 feet away and whip balls at eachother? Not only is that more dangerous(though not enough people seem to realize or care about how dangerous it truly is), but its cheap and wussy. Why not just skip that and let the pitchers who want to initiate the confrontation charge home plate and use fists instead of enticing the batter to charge them first? Thats a whole hell of a lot safer than the ball whipping. If nobody honestly cares about the safety then hell, lets create a new unwritten code that allows the batter to whip his bat back at the pitcher.
- SimpleJack


It is certainly NOT within the rules for a pitcher to "intentionally hurl baseballs at other players" - recently less than ever.

Umpires will call any suspected intentional hit, inside pitch, or purpose pitch, warning both benches, and expelling the next pitcher who even comes close to hitting a batter. They've pretty much taken away the inside pitch - even, considering how players crowd the plate today, the pitch over the inside part of the plate - it's impossible to move batters off the plate without getting the pitcher kicked out.

You want to see intentional HBP, you have to go back to Drysdale and Gibson.
TrueGrit
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Sep 12 @ 8:25 AM ET
It still amazes me that because of some unwritten code baseball pitchers can intentionally hurl baseballs at other players. Not saying what happened to Stanton was intentional, but look at what can potentially happen depending on where players get hit. Nobody can be completely certain that every intentional HBP is going to be directly on target(which is supposedly the back, but who knows, maybe some guys really do aim for the head as well). Its an absolute joke when you think about the level of damage that can occur. If it were up to me, every retaliatory HBP would constitute a 50 game ban, 2nd offenders 100 games, so on and so forth. What makes it worse is that baseball isn't a contact/physical sport. And these guys are gonna stand 60 feet away and whip balls at eachother? Not only is that more dangerous(though not enough people seem to realize or care about how dangerous it truly is), but its cheap and wussy. Why not just skip that and let the pitchers who want to initiate the confrontation charge home plate and use fists instead of enticing the batter to charge them first? Thats a whole hell of a lot safer than the ball whipping. If nobody honestly cares about the safety then hell, lets create a new unwritten code that allows the batter to whip his bat back at the pitcher.
- SimpleJack


Easy now buddy. Everyone playing baseball understands the risks of playing. From what I saw, and I may be wrong, there was nothing that precipitated the pitch. That is no event whereby the pitcher was trying to send a message.

Part of the blame goes to Stanton himself. You are never to open up to an inside pitch like that, but to turn in so your back takes the brunt and your head is down. That pitch was only 88 MPH.

Pitchers in baseball have not thrown inside for decades, because of that hitters plant themselves and get great looks/swings. We have seen more pitchers seriously injured over the last few years from line drives than hitters from HBP.

I understand your emotion from the trauma of the pitch, but lets not get crazy.
stljam
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Sep 12 @ 9:13 AM ET
That was a whole lot of nasty . OMFG
- mrpaulish


A hockey player would have took the field in the next half inning

They confirmed this morning - multiple facial fractures, dental work and stitches. Looked like a hockey injury they way the blood was flowing.
mrpaulish
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Sep 12 @ 9:46 AM ET
A hockey player would have took the field in the next half inning

They confirmed this morning - multiple facial fractures, dental work and stitches. Looked like a hockey injury they way the blood was flowing.

- stljam


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