Yeah o k... Look at Jagr last year... Devils don't need to change anything! No drama this year in goal plus a FEW more goals here and there, we will be ahead of NYR... They have good years to come still, you eat watch. You had one good year in the past 20 and already talking smack?
- diofan34

Please don't change a thing!! As for the rest So let me guess Jagr is better now than he was on the Rangers and it's better to be old than young?

These tools don't (frank)ing quit...

I think the rangers and penguins won't be as good this year, in Lou of Tampa, of course Boston, Montreal & unfortunately maybe Columbus. I think Jersey will do a bit better this season, which is all we needed last year, but we'll be competing for a spot with NYR, NYI and Philly... But we''re always better off under dogs anyways. Ruutu and Brunner should do way better this year, hopefully career highs but not necessarily saying that much. I think Jersey has a great mix age wise, plenty of vets with experience to bring up the youngsters who just need a little guidance, one way or another. I think the Rangers got lucky at the end of last season, where a few other East Coast teams didn't, this year should be a lot tighter
- diofan34

Hey man everyone's entitled to their opinion. Season starts soon so we'll see how it all unfolds.

Hey man everyone's entitled to their opinion. Season starts soon so we'll see how it all unfolds.
- rangerdanger94

Thanks for.trolling bumhole please gtfo...you're opinions don't matter here when you act like a.total douche nozzle.

These tools don't (frank)ing quit...
- NickA

Just ignore them

These tools don't (frank)ing quit...
- NickA

Rangerdanger was talking hockey until diofan started making these unwarranted claims of the Rangers "being lucky", stick to the topic and stop being whiny little girls and BTW I'd take Karlsson over Greene 365 days of the year, as Rangerdanger stated his speed makes up for his lack of physicality in the defensive zone, his defensive deficiencies are exaggerated

Hey man everyone's entitled to their opinion. Season starts soon so we'll see how it all unfolds.
- rangerdanger94

Don't you know Rangers fans aren't entitled to "opinions", we're peasants in this thread

He probably realizes Larsson is a lost cause.
- rangerdanger94

Oh yeah this was talking hockey. please your half ass attempts are so easy to see through. Just gtfo you provide nothing insightful and just clowns.

Don't you know Rangers fans aren't entitled to "opinions", we're peasants in this thread
- HankdaTank

You rangedanger and jimbro are trolls. That's what you are don't like than stop trolling.

a 21 yr old a lost cause? yeah you're not trolling...all those years of being irrelevant has really taken its toll on the 3 of you that always come in here "wanting to talk hockey"
- Senor_Elias

Yeah man they are talking hockey and not trolling clearly.

Oh yeah this was talking hockey. please your half ass attempts are so easy to see through. Just gtfo you provide nothing insightful and just clowns.
- NickA

You're so sensitive, how about you know how sarcastic he is before you get bent out of shape, seriously you Devils fans are way too wound up

Just ignore them
- willschulme

Kinda impossible when its everyday and ultimately someone always takes the bait. As far Brunner being moved goes I'd say a 5th rd pick would be enough no one will offer anything significant or even minor for him.

Kinda impossible when its everyday and ultimately someone always takes the bait. As far Brunner being moved goes I'd say a 5th rd pick would be enough no one will offer anything significant or even minor for him.
- NickA

Take the bait? you guys are fish jumping out of water

I think Corey Schneider is a great goaltender, there does that allow me to talk hockey in this thread?

You're so sensitive, how about you know how sarcastic he is before you get bent out of shape, seriously you Devils fans are way too wound up
- HankdaTank

So should I come into Jan's blog everyday never providing any real hockey talk just insult all youre players and be sarcastic like you legends?

So should I come into Jan's blog everyday never providing any real hockey talk just insult all youre players and be sarcastic like you legends?
- NickA

Get over yourself, I'll leave your thread if you like, I'm sure the next opposing fan will continue to "troll", we'll just observe and laugh

Get over yourself, I'll leave your thread if you like, I'm sure the next opposing fan will continue to "troll", we'll just observe and laugh
- HankdaTank

As I have always done with your franchise. It's a great time trust me.

2008-2009 (1st, 12th, 3rd in scoring)
Green 68GP, 31G, 42A, 73P, +24, 68PIM, 167 SH/TOI
Won-Chara 80GP, 19G, 31A, 50P, +23, 95PIM, 268 SH/TOI
Lidstrom 78GP, 16G, 43A, 59P, +31, 30PIM, 269 SH/TOI

2009-2010 (1st, 2nd, 3rd in scoring)
Green 75 GP, 19G, 57A, 76P, +39, 54PIM, 161 SH/TOI
Doughty 82 GP, 16G, 43A, 59P, +20, 54PIM, 165 SH/TOI
Won-Keith 82GP, 14G, 55A, 69P, +21, 51PIM, 244 SH/TOI

2011-2012 (1st, 3rd, 5th in scoring)
Won-Karlsson 81GP, 19G, 59A, 78P, +16, 42PIM, 45 SH/TOI
Chara 79GP, 12G, 40A, 52P, +33, 86PIM, 214 SH/TOI
Weber 78GP, 19G, 30A, 49P, +21, 46PIM, 176 SH/TOI

I thought this might help show the "flip-flop."

2009
Chara won, but had less points than Green, less +/- than Lidstrom, and more PIM, SH/TOI was close. Lidstrom should of won this because of the difference in PIM between him and Chara.

2010
Keith won, but had less points and +/-. HAd a huge advantage in SH/TOI.
SH/TOI probably made a huge role in him winning this.

2012
Karlsson won, he had the most points, a worse +/- by double, but a huge gap in SH/TOI.
- Devils9503

i understand what you mean now. it sort of seemed initially that you were implying that it went to stricitly defensive guys sometimes, and strictly offensive guys other times. in reality the guy who wins it is almost always in the top 3-4 scorers among d-men, however you're right in that it seems sometimes it seems points is what matters most, while sometimes it seems like voters look more at balance.

the norris really is the only award that seems to have to balance two separate aspects of a position......all the other ones are pretty clear cut.

WAAAYYYYYY better? What a draft pick? They want a top nine guy and since Ott is cheap Brunner would be 2.5. If you want Brunner take Sal, he would be the sixth/7th defender and would allow Ceci/Cowen and others to play more. And you wouldn't get that much better of a option that would provide you with what you want, that being a top nine forward who comes cheap.
- Devils9503

Dude...Garrioch says a top 9 but the reality is the SENS are shppoing a top 6.The discussion ends right there. Brunner is a Devil plain and simple.

So should I come into Jan's blog everyday never providing any real hockey talk just insult all youre players and be sarcastic like you legends?
- NickA

I mean you can try but it'll be pretty tough since our players are better in every aspect.

Karlsson isn't exactly an elite shutdown defenseman but he gets a lot more poop for being bad defensively than he deserves. His speed and skating are huge assets to him in terms of playing in his own zone. He's actually very serviceable defensively...above average for sure.
- rangerdanger94

Yes I agree

I mean you can try but it'll be pretty tough since our players are better in every aspect.
- rangerdanger94

lol ok you can go now

So starved for hockey. We've done valliantly, but we've exhausted all topic of conversation over this long summer. Need training camp and I needed it yesterday.

Dont need anyone from that proposal list ,we have depth .We need some top end talent ,none of these guys would bring this rather give our kids the chance

Dont need anyone from that proposal list ,we have depth .We need some top end talent ,none of these guys would bring this rather give our kids the chance
- top shelf 15

No one asked, you'll take him and like it

I mean you can try but it'll be pretty tough since our players are better in every aspect.
- rangerdanger94

I think that's debatable but with the rangers and devils it's seems to go in periods of 4-7 years where one of them slows down and the other picks up and so on right now you guys have McDonough kreider Stepan Hagelin and frodo. Our guys are starting to make an impact and a few will be 2-3 years away there is usually a 2-3 year period where both teams are good at the same time. I'm just curious if there is a guy in your system to replace Henrik or if you think they will fill that hole via free agency down the road as he still has more then a few years left