He probably realizes Larsson is a lost cause.
- rangerdanger94

Like Henrys chances of winning a cup in his career?

Ott: Condra, Borowiecki
Nj: Brunner, 3rd
?
- TheCalSen

Ott: Methot
NJ: Brunner, Salvador

All three are free agents after this year.

Stafford is available. He's a good two way guy and could be the best option for a third line center, I know he was playing right wing last year, and would be a free agent this year. He makes 4 mil, but Buff could probably eat 1 mil. Don't know what it would cost.

JJ and Ryder?

Stafford is available. He's a good two way guy and could be the best option for a third line center, I know he was playing right wing last year, and would be a free agent this year. He makes 4 mil, but Buff could probably eat 1 mil. Don't know what it would cost.

JJ and Ryder?
- Devils9503

God no, enough bottom 6 FWs.
ENough of these poopty players and scraps from other teams.

ENOUGH!!

Ott: Condra, Borowiecki
Nj: Brunner, 3rd
?
- TheCalSen

We'll just take a 6th

We'll just take a 6th
- shvingter88

I'd even do Brunner, Ryder and retain 50% salary for a 7th.

Ott: Methot
NJ: Brunner, Salvador

All three are free agents after this year.
- Devils9503

is this supposed to be a joke?

a legit top 4 dman (top pairing on your team)

for a 38 year old fringe NHLer and a 3rd/4th liner.

ottawa would get WAAAYYYYYY better offers from practically every other team

is this supposed to be a joke?

a legit top 4 dman (top pairing on your team)

for a 38 year old fringe NHLer and a 3rd/4th liner.

ottawa would get WAAAYYYYYY better offers from practically every other team
- sensarmy_11

We could add Bernier if you include a 2nd.

is this supposed to be a joke?

a legit top 4 dman (top pairing on your team)

for a 38 year old fringe NHLer and a 3rd/4th liner.

ottawa would get WAAAYYYYYY better offers from practically every other team
- sensarmy_11

WAAAYYYYYY better? What a draft pick? They want a top nine guy and since Ott is cheap Brunner would be 2.5. If you want Brunner take Sal, he would be the sixth/7th defender and would allow Ceci/Cowen and others to play more. And you wouldn't get that much better of a option that would provide you with what you want, that being a top nine forward who comes cheap.

WAAAYYYYYY better? What a draft pick? They want a top nine guy and since Ott is cheap Brunner would be 2.5. If you want Brunner take Sal, he would be the sixth/7th defender and would allow Ceci/Cowen and others to play more. And you wouldn't get that much better of a option that would provide you with what you want, that being a top nine forward who comes cheap.
- Devils9503

teams are desperate for D right now......methot is a legit top 4, with an excellent cap hit, who plays a very strong overall game. he's worth WAY MORE than slavador and brunner.

very high demand with very low supply means that a poop package like that doesn't get you a guy who would likely be the best dman on your team.....at worst, 2nd best.

God no, enough bottom 6 FWs.
ENough of these poopty players and scraps from other teams.

ENOUGH!!
- FLdevilsFAN

Scraps? Stafford would of been tied for 6th on the Devils in points, 5th among forwards and 6th in goals. Our defense, goaltending, and top 6 are good, it's the bottom six that needs work. Everybody takes about getting younger, well he is 28 and would improve our bottom six.

He probably realizes Larsson is a lost cause.
- rangerdanger94

I bet that's what it is in sure it's more along the lines of you don't know what your talking about and even if he is Gelinas and Merrill have both been impressive and severson has been blowing them away so I think we can afford to have him not pan out which I don't think will be the cause anyways

teams are desperate for D right now......methot is a legit top 4, with an excellent cap hit, who plays a very strong overall game. he's worth WAY MORE than slavador and brunner.

very high demand with very low supply means that a poop package like that doesn't get you a guy who would likely be the best dman on your team.....at worst, 2nd best.
- sensarmy_11

Just because you may think he's worth more doesn't mean other teams would give up a lot more than Brunner and Sal. IMO each team would get what they want. Also would be probably the 3rd/4th/5th best D on our team Greene, Merrill, Zid, Methot, and Larsson last three could be changed in different order.

He probably realizes Larsson is a lost cause.
- rangerdanger94

a 21 yr old a lost cause? yeah you're not trolling...all those years of being irrelevant has really taken its toll on the 3 of you that always come in here "wanting to talk hockey"

teams are desperate for D right now......methot is a legit top 4, with an excellent cap hit, who plays a very strong overall game. he's worth WAY MORE than slavador and brunner.

very high demand with very low supply means that a poop package like that doesn't get you a guy who would likely be the best dman on your team.....at worst, 2nd best.
- sensarmy_11

I think greenes better and I also think that the possible step forward all our kids should take that we wouldn't need methot either way but that was a bad offer it's just methot is not a fit for us and the value isnt there for you guys I think a lot of people don't know just how good Gelinas and Merrill are because they weren't flashy first round picks. I also think people fail to take into account how good you actually have to be to be trusted with minutes on our back end if it where most teams these guys would have played three season already nj doesn't take it's defense lightly and yea you could argue that a lot of guys who have been on our defense have been bad players the thing is they play the system a guy like karlsson wouldn't have gotten the opportunity to explode onto the scene in nj like he did in Ottawa he would like be in only his second nhl season if he played for the devils because his defensive game just would not have been anywhere good enough to sniff the ice in jersey and that's not a diss on karlsson at all it's just how things are done here each team has a way of bringing up players and we do it our way whether a player might need to be brought up differently or not. I have had this discussion before that for some reason Lou thinks there is a blue print for bringing in prospects instead of developing them on their pace and towards each prospects needs each guy gets treated the same whether he was fourth over all or a seventh round pick

WAAAYYYYYY better? What a draft pick? They want a top nine guy and since Ott is cheap Brunner would be 2.5. If you want Brunner take Sal, he would be the sixth/7th defender and would allow Ceci/Cowen and others to play more. And you wouldn't get that much better of a option that would provide you with what you want, that being a top nine forward who comes cheap.
- Devils9503

Ottawa & New Jersey are not good trading partners IMO.

Both have an abundance of bottom 6 forwards & 5,6,7 Defencemen.

They both need more top end talent on their rosters.

I bet that's what it is in sure it's more along the lines of you don't know what your talking about and even if he is Gelinas and Merrill have both been impressive and severson has been blowing them away so I think we can afford to have him not pan out which I don't think will be the cause anyways
- blizzzard

I read an article yesterday regarding Larsson and the guy made two good points. One there was a lot of expectations of him because he was picked 4th overall and second that he made the team at 18. Some guys would point to other players like say Seth Jones, but Jones has played in the same rink and style his whole junior career. Others may point to Merrill or Severson or Gelinas, but teo of them played in the CHL and Merrill played three years of college. I said it a yesterday I think, that if he can become what Andy Greene is and put up 5-10 goals and 30 or more assists, than I'd be fine with that. With Merrill, Gelinas, and Severson not every guy has to produce over 40 points.

WAAAYYYYYY better? What a draft pick? They want a top nine guy and since Ott is cheap Brunner would be 2.5. If you want Brunner take Sal, he would be the sixth/7th defender and would allow Ceci/Cowen and others to play more. And you wouldn't get that much better of a option that would provide you with what you want, that being a top nine forward who comes cheap.
- Devils9503

Sorry man, but that would be a terrible trade for the Senators...

Bryce Salvador has literally negative value. All I see is people complaining about how bad he was last year, and how they want him off the roster. Damian Brunner you'd be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for... Let alone a 2nd pairing defender.

We could make the trade, but it would in no way make the Senators a better team.

But hey, if you think these quantity-for-quality deals are good value, how about trading Andy Greene for Chris Phillips and Colin Greening?

I read an article yesterday regarding Larsson and the guy made two good points. One there was a lot of expectations of him because he was picked 4th overall and second that he made the team at 18. Some guys would point to other players like say Seth Jones, but Jones has played in the same rink and style his whole junior career. Others may point to Merrill or Severson or Gelinas, but teo of them played in the CHL and Merrill played three years of college. I said it a yesterday I think, that if he can become what Andy Greene is and put up 5-10 goals and 30 or more assists, than I'd be fine with that. With Merrill, Gelinas, and Severson not every guy has to produce over 40 points.
- Devils9503

Those guys also didn't play in the nhl at 18 jones was the only guy you mentioned who did. I really think they have wronged Larsson I don't blame him for where he is at that to me is all on the coaching staff and Lou who couldn't move a guy last year and wouldn't send a guy down other then Gelinas who had 29 points in 60 I would say for a team who lacked scoring he was the last player we could afford to send down and then we made our worst defense man captain that's just poor decision making by Lou and Pete

Sorry man, but that would be a terrible trade for the Senators...

Bryce Salvador has literally negative value. All I see is people complaining about how bad he was last year, and how they want him off the roster. Damian Brunner you'd be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for... Let alone a 2nd pairing defender.

We could make the trade, but it would in no way make the Senators a better team.

But hey, if you think these quantity-for-quality deals are good value, how about trading Andy Greene for Chris Phillips and Colin Greening?
- Mr_Clean

I'm sure I have asked this before but what's the scoop on Shane prince

Sorry man, but that would be a terrible trade for the Senators...

Bryce Salvador has literally negative value. All I see is people complaining about how bad he was last year, and how they want him off the roster. Damian Brunner you'd be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for... Let alone a 2nd pairing defender.

We could make the trade, but it would in no way make the Senators a better team.

But hey, if you think these quantity-for-quality deals are good value, how about trading Andy Greene for Chris Phillips and Colin Greening?
- Mr_Clean

Sure, but only right after you give us Karlsson for Zidlicky and Zubrus. I know it seems one sided but Zubs is one hell of a DJ

Sure, but only right after you give us Karlsson for Zidlicky and Zubrus. I know it seems one sided but Zubs is one hell of a DJ
- bobert836

So was lukawich

Sure, but only right after you give us Karlsson for Zidlicky and Zubrus. I know it seems one sided but Zubs is one hell of a DJ
- bobert836

Sorry man, but that would be a terrible trade for the Senators...

Bryce Salvador has literally negative value. All I see is people complaining about how bad he was last year, and how they want him off the roster. Damian Brunner you'd be lucky to get a 3rd rounder for... Let alone a 2nd pairing defender.

We could make the trade, but it would in no way make the Senators a better team.

But hey, if you think these quantity-for-quality deals are good value, how about trading Andy Greene for Chris Phillips and Colin Greening?
- Mr_Clean

Andy would be the best defense on either team and I understand what your getting at, but to get something you need to give up something. And for a team like the Sens who don't spend much, maybe they want to see what Brunner could do in their system before maybe trying to sign him away from other teams that might call. Also, I looked at some trade and looking at the Sens they traded Gonchar, who I think at the time was still at least a top 4 defender for a 6th and they traded Foligno, a third liner, for Methot. I think it just depends what they Sens feel they could get or what they want in return vs. what they are offered. You just never know what a player is worth because some players who should get you a big return don't and vice versa.

I'm sure I have asked this before but what's the scoop on Shane prince
- blizzzard

I'm probably the wrong person to ask that - a decent young player sorta caught up in the numbers game in Ottawa. People talk about him as a potential 2nd liner, I see the occasional Binghampton game and I am not sure about that.

Anything else would be a copy/paste of what an actual prospect writer says