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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 5:20 PM ET
Bearsssss.
- Ogilthorpe2

Cutler has to be close to the record for throwing picks to defensive lineman.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 5:21 PM ET
A death spiral Rob sighting! It's going to be 7-9 Rob.
- Beaver-Warrior

I think the Bear safeties need a geometry class or two.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 7 @ 5:27 PM ET
I think the Bear safeties need a geometry class or two.
- Elbows15


Bad angles. Been the trademark of Bear safeties for the last few years.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
Bad angles. Been the trademark of Bear safeties for the last few years.
- Beaver-Warrior

And does Trestman realize he has 4 downs to get a 1st? FFS. 2nd and 1 and he throws the damn ball twice. Cutler misses Forte wide open in the flat for a 1st down at the end of the game. Instead, he tries to force the ball to Holmes Who had already not been able to make a play in coverage. *sigh*.

Get the ball to your best offensive player.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 7 @ 5:42 PM ET
And does Trestman realize he has 4 downs to get a 1st? FFS. 2nd and 1 and he throws the damn ball twice. Cutler misses Forte wide open in the flat for a 1st down at the end of the game. Instead, he tries to force the ball to Holmes Who had already not been able to make a play in coverage. *sigh*.

Get the ball to your best offensive player.

- Elbows15


But,but,but Jay has a cannon for an arm.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 5:45 PM ET
But,but,but Jay has a cannon for an arm.
- Beaver-Warrior


He is the Bears' version of Nick Leddy. Can't think the game.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 7 @ 5:48 PM ET
He is the Bears' version of Nick Leddy. Can't think the game.
- Elbows15


He's too old. He's what Leddy will be in a few years.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 5:58 PM ET
He's too old. He's what Leddy will be in a few years.
- Beaver-Warrior

We have that to look forward too. Of course, some will say he has potential.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 7 @ 6:00 PM ET
But,but,but Jay has a cannon for an arm.
- Beaver-Warrior


Bobby Douglas had a cannon for an arm.

How many wasted seasons trying to make him an NFL QB?
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 7 @ 6:20 PM ET
Bobby Douglas had a cannon for an arm.

How many wasted seasons trying to make him an NFL QB?

- StLBravesFan


Guess I should have used the red font.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 6:28 PM ET
Bobby Douglas had a cannon for an arm.

How many wasted seasons trying to make him an NFL QB?

- StLBravesFan

About the same number of years we watched Ken Yaremchuk skate circles in the offensive zone until he lost the puck causing a 3 on 1 break going back the other way.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 7 @ 6:33 PM ET
About the same number of years we watched Ken Yaremchuk skate circles in the offensive zone until he lost the puck causing a 3 on 1 break going back the other way.
- Elbows15


I'm so looking forward to next week's game against the Niners on national tv.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 7 @ 6:57 PM ET
I'm so looking forward to next week's game against the Niners on national tv.
- Beaver-Warrior


New stadium?
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 7 @ 7:36 PM ET
New stadium?
- StLBravesFan


That and the smack down that the Bears will receive.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 8:00 PM ET
New stadium?
- StLBravesFan

He just likes their uniforms.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 8:26 PM ET
Versteeg, Rozy and Leddy to the Devils for a 2nd?
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Sep 7 @ 9:10 PM ET
That and the smack down that the Bears will receive.
- Beaver-Warrior

Bears are going to start the season going 0-2 big hole to overcome. The "D" was a big let down and they also looked slow.Still shaking my head
bhawk1s
Joined: 06.27.2014

Sep 7 @ 10:04 PM ET
About the same number of years we watched Ken Yaremchuk skate circles in the offensive zone until he lost the puck causing a 3 on 1 break going back the other way.
- Elbows15


Kenny had that play mastered, always hoped he'd leave the puck behind the offensive goal, but always came back to the blue line to lose the puck, only time remember him screwing that play up when he inexplainably passed the puck to Greg Fox in OT in the playoffs that one year and Fox scored to win the game
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 10:16 PM ET
Kenny had that play mastered, always hoped he'd leave the puck behind the offensive goal, but always came back to the blue line to lose the puck, only time remember him screwing that play up when he inexplainably passed the puck to Greg Fox in OT in the playoffs that one year and Fox scored to win the game
- bhawk1s

Thanks. As if watching the Bears wasn't bad enough, you had to remind me of Greg Fox. Man, was he horrible.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 7 @ 10:31 PM ET
Gms will also look at the fact that Versteeg has been traded 4 times in the last 5 seasons, That will impact his value. The value in trading Versteeg isn't so much in what you get in return but the cap space you need.

The issue with Leddy is he going to need a new contract after this season. His cap hit is 2.7M already. For what he brings to a team as a 5th D-man, he can be replaced with a cheaper alternative. The reality is the Hawks will need that cap space next season. Moving him now will garner the best return.

And playing him in a top 4 role would be foolish no matter what minor improvements he has made. If any.

It comes down to who has more value to the Hawks. Leddy or one of Saad, Shaw or Kruger? All three of those players are better at what they do than Leddy.

- Elbows15


You mentioned four young players in Leddy, Saad, Shaw, and Kruger. This season may be telling as each one takes another step forward in development and their value to the team. Conversley, they may improve only a tad or regress is certain aspects of the game.

It is a long season. Their final grade may change from their ranking you and others would give at various points in the season.

I wouldn't want to guess whom might be more likely to get moved. Their performance will help give seperation as to whom stays or goes in Bowman's mind.

I would be willing to bet on something else. I suspect that eventually Dahlbeck and if not next year, then the following year at least a couple of Rockford prospects will find a spot on the roster. Among forwards they will play well on bottom lines. On defense Johns style will have an impact. But may have to live with some bad and good with him. Eventually might Johns be more than a third pair type? Who knows? But there are other prospects on defense as well as TT and other prospects moving closer to pro contracts. Guys that were in rookie camp. Competition is a good thing
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 7 @ 10:37 PM ET
Versteeg, Rozy and Leddy to the Devils for a 2nd?
- Elbows15

Lou Lamoreillo has prospects and retreads he would turn to before he looks at the NHL scrap heep. As far as Chicago goes, Versteeg and Rosival is scrap heep. And although the Devils GM is wary to play youngsters soon, he would give his own prospects a bit of a look before he makes a deal for a young guy like Leddy. Just my humble opinion. I believe that Lamoreillo prefers to take a conservative approach as much as possible. I doubt he would take more than one of those players from Chicago.

Lamoreillo is an astute judge of talent. What might he think about Leddy upside? Hmmm.

Late edit: Devils have some young dmen looking to establish their role and value on the blueline. Adding another young dman seems not too likely. Of course if it is a primary concern to obtain a puck rushing dman.....but I do not see the teams completing a trade.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Sep 7 @ 10:47 PM ET
Lou Lamoreillo has prospects and retreads he would turn to before he looks at the NHL scrap heep. As far as Chicago goes, Versteeg and Rosival is scrap heep. And although the Devils GM is wary to play youngsters soon, he would give his own prospects a bit of a look before he makes a deal for a young guy like Leddy. Just my humble opinion. I believe that Lamoreillo prefers to take a conservative approach as much as possible. I doubt he would take more than one of those players from Chicago.

Lamoreillo is an astute judge of talent. What might he think about Leddy upside? Hmmm.

Late edit: Devils have some young dmen looking to establish their role and value on the blueline. Adding another young dman seems not too likely. Of course if it is a primary concern to obtain a puck rushing dman.....but I do not see the teams completing a trade.

- jhawk59



It was sarcasm.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Sep 7 @ 10:55 PM ET
Bears are going to start the season going 0-2 big hole to overcome. The "D" was a big let down and they also looked slow.Still shaking my head
- BGKarras

The D was a let down? Did the D turn the ball over 3 times? 13 of those points against are on the offense.
rnewman291
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.25.2008

Sep 8 @ 1:07 AM ET
The D was a let down? Did the D turn the ball over 3 times? 13 of those points against are on the offense.
- Ogilthorpe2

Jay Cutler is the biggest waste of dough since Cristobal Huet and Adam Dunn and Alfonso Soriano. I wish Cutler had half the heart and stones as Andrew Shaw. Cutler is a wise arse punk to boot. Trestman? Washed up CFL milquetoast coach. What's up with that? Iron Mike where are you? Lol
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 8 @ 1:44 AM ET
Jay Cutler is the biggest waste of dough since Cristobal Huet and Adam Dunn and Alfonso Soriano. I wish Cutler had half the heart and stones as Andrew Shaw. Cutler is a wise arse punk to boot. Trestman? Washed up CFL milquetoast coach. What's up with that? Iron Mike where are you? Lol
- rnewman291


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