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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 2 @ 10:53 AM ET
Emery was bad in two of the three playoff games he played in and the Rangers took full advantage of his lack of mobility. That's why his SV% was .888, compared to .939 for Mason.

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- Feanor


I don't think he was bad in any of the games he played in. He played admirably if every game he played in, he battled, and gave the Flyers a chance to win. All you can ask for from a backup. Every goalie has weaknesses, even more so for backups.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 2 @ 10:53 AM ET
I think Mason scores a goal this season.
- PhiFaninEdm


I think he scores a goal before Nick Schultz does.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 2 @ 10:55 AM ET
If they had the cap space (of if Mase was out the year), there would definitely be ready replacements out there -- there are more starting-caliber guys than there are jobs. For example, Cam Ward could probably be had for a song.

But yeah... all things considered, losing Mason for a large chunk of the season would likely be devastating under present constraints.

- Tomahawk



I'd chck on Broduer if he was unsgned if Masn wnt dwn for the year
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 2 @ 10:56 AM ET
I don't think he was bad in any of the games he played in. He played admirably if every game he played in, he battled, and gave the Flyers a chance to win. All you can ask for from a backup. Every goalie has weaknesses, even more so for backups.
- MJL


I love Emery and he certainly battled like the warrior that he is. But lets face it, he does have mobility issues and I question his ability to fill in as the #1 goalie for any significant length of time.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think he scores a goal before Nick Schultz does.
- Tomahawk


Could be a race tween Schultz, Grossmann and Mason for who gets the first goal!
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Sep 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
Sounds like a lot of people here really undervalue what Mason did for this team last season. Without Mason this team is by no means a playoff team. With relatively the same sup par defense we have had over the last few seaons.... Look at the numbers other goalies have put up and look at Mason's. That guy is relied upon to make 10 bell saves on a regular basis and has consistantly bailed his defense out. He doesnt have a defense like LA, NYR or BOS to hide behind and still puts up comparable numbers to Quick, Lundqvist and Rask. No Mason=No playoffs. Hopefully we dont have to find out in order to validate my words. I also feel comfortable saying BOB would not have the same success in Philly as he does in CBJ. He had his chance and blew it. I dont miss him.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
No doubt that Giroux is the most important player on the club, however replacing a quality starting goalie is not as easy as it sounds, especially when other teams know you are desperate to do so.
- BiggE

Mason probably wasn't a equality starter when we got him. The organization helped make him this way.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
If they had the cap space (of if Mase was out the year), there would definitely be ready replacements out there -- there are more starting-caliber guys than there are jobs. For example, Cam Ward could probably be had for a song.

But yeah... all things considered, losing Mason for a large chunk of the season would likely be devastating under present constraints.

- Tomahawk


Cap space could be a big issue in adding another goalie. Guys like Ward would require Mason to be on LTIR & they'd probably have to move Timonen there as well. The Flyers also lack a second round pick in the 2015 draft, which also could be an issue. If a team is dealing an "extra" goalie they generally will want a pick or prospect.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
I love Emery and he certainly battled like the warrior that he is. But lets face it, he does have mobility issues and I question his ability to fill in as the #1 goalie for any significant length of time.
- BiggE



Sure he does have weaknesses to his game. But how many backups don't? Emery is a good goalie, that can come in and play well for a team. He's shown that both here, and in Chcago as a backup. The Flyers would likely have to acquire a veteran backup so they don't overplay Emery if Mason would go down. I have confidence in Emery as a backup filling in for an injured starter. And wouldn't be looking at him as a #1 goalie, but as a backup doing just that, filling in.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:01 AM ET

Could be a race tween Schultz, Grossmann and Mason for who gets the first goal!

- BiggE


Riveting!

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
Cap space could be a big issue in adding another goalie. Guys like Ward would require Mason to be on LTIR & they'd probably have to move Timonen there as well. The Flyers also lack a second round pick in the 2015 draft, which also could be an issue. If a team is dealing an "extra" goalie they generally will want a pick or prospect.
- Jsaquella


Michael Leighton still has his Flyers mask and orange pads around somewhere.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
Mason probably wasn't a equality starter when we got him. The organization helped make him this way.
- SuperSchennBros


Mason was/is a pretty talented goaltender who, it seems, required a change of scenery. It happens.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Riveting!


- Tomahawk

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Michael Leighton still has his Flyers mask and orange pads around somewhere.
- johndewar


Yeah, in Chicago's training camp
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Michael Leighton still has his Flyers mask and orange pads around somewhere.
- johndewar


You stop that right now!
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Sep 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
Mason was/is a pretty talented goaltender who, it seems, required a change of scenery. It happens.
- johndewar

Exactly. At this point I would still take Mason over BOB. BOB cant perform in pressure situations. Being a Flyers goalie is a pressure situation. Everybody just waiting for you to fail.....
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
Michael Leighton still has his Flyers mask and orange pads around somewhere.
- johndewar


Its far too leight to bring him back.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
Michael Leighton still has his Flyers mask and orange pads around somewhere.
- johndewar


Safe and sound in the 'Hawks' back pocket. They're going to trade him to whichever team Ms Cleo says they're going to meet in the Finals... so Patrick Kane can do his thing again.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
You stop that right now!
- BiggE


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
Safe and sound in the 'Hawks' back pocket. They' going to trade him to whichever team Ms Cleo says they're going to meet in the Finals... so Patrick Kane can do his thing again.
- Tomahawk




To be fair the guy came in and did more than anyone could have expected. The carriage just turned back to a pumpkin at the worst time
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
Exactly. At this point I would still take Mason over BOB. BOB cant perform in pressure situations. Being a Flyers goalie is a pressure situation. Everybody just waiting for you to fail.....
- GOA88


Bob is a pretty good goaltender, too. I don't think Bob's story is fully written. He's a key piece on a team that is starting to emerge out of the Metro.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:11 AM ET


To be fair the guy came in and did more than anyone could have expected. The carriage just turned back to a pumpkin at the worst time

- Jsaquella


He's the NHL equivalent of a sleeper cell. 'Hawks drafted and groomed him for that very moment.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:11 AM ET


To be fair the guy came in and did more than anyone could have expected. The carriage just turned back to a pumpkin at the worst time

- Jsaquella


Totally agree. People forget the work he turned in during the regular season when they brought him in.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 2 @ 11:12 AM ET
He's the NHL equivalent of a sleeper cell. 'Hawks drafted and groomed him for that very moment.
- Tomahawk


The Manchurian Goalie?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 2 @ 11:13 AM ET
The Manchurian Goalie?
- Jsaquella


Bingo.
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