If you are going to sing his praises, you need to spell that useless (frank)ers name right.
- Elbows15

My bad. Dany Heatley has killer instincts, when he gets wheelin he's got some swagger. Heart and Soul team guy, humble and loyal to his teammates. Always has an eye on the prize. Puts ANA over the top IMO. Fifty goals again next to Getzlaf.

My bad. Dany Heatley has killer instincts, when he gets wheelin he's got some swagger. Heart and Soul team guy, humble and loyal to his teammates. Always has an eye on the prize. Puts ANA over the top IMO. Fifty goals again next to Getzlaf.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

How (frank)ing high are you?


You have the killer part correct, though.

Never do
- Yeti1181

I don't think you quite have this reffing down yet.

How (frank)ing high are you?
- Elbows15

Very drunk and high....

How the (frank) can you see me!!???

I do not recall such nonsense. I recall saying maybe I was wrong about him, turns out I wasn't. He sucks hairy nut sacks.

Anyways, the chances of him scoring a goal that clutch are slim to none. More likely he rings iron, or thumps it right into the center of the crest.
- Ogilthorpe2

For you? That is slobbering.

Very drunk and high....

How the (frank) can you see me!!???
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Yeti told me in a PM.

Yeti told me in a PM.
- Elbows15

I'm out this be Crazy.

May the Karma of Huet be with you.

I'm out this be Crazy.

May the Karma of Huet be with you.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

This is just cruel. May the Karma of Raycroft be with you.

This is just cruel. May the Karma of Raycroft be with you.
- Elbows15

Ouch, jeez that stings way worse

Have a good one Elbows.

Ouch, jeez that stings way worse

Have a good one Elbows.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Peace Buff.

I guess I just have to root for a season ending injury to make my dream of a Sharp free season come true.

Stan has let me down.
- Ogilthorpe2

LTIR solves the cap issue too right?

I do, but I know I'm in the minority. Pretty sure the wives and kids care too, but it's especially poopty when the kid is less than a year old. If you want to play the field, fine...don't get (frank)ing married.
- Ogilthorpe2

See Marshall Faulk for a good example of this.

Nope. Rozy has a NMC. Can't waive him.
- Elbows15

Rozsival had a NMC last season, this year it's just a NTC.

http://m.capgeek.com/player/629

Oglethorpe-we get it. You don't like Sharp. Your reasoning seems very questionable bc although Sharp may have struggled to finish during the 2014 calendar year, he still has great wheels and is one of the few Hawks that puts the puck on net. He creates chances and was a GD Canadian Olympian. If the hawks can't get a high end prospect or 1st round pick then you keep him until you HAVE to move him for the 2015 cap dump. Your vendetta against Sharp is annoying and not logical from a hockey standpoint. Move on. He's an alternate captain and a damn good hockey player and he shouldn't be moved unless there are no other options to get under the cap in 2015

I do not recall such nonsense. I recall saying maybe I was wrong about him, turns out I wasn't. He sucks hairy nut sacks.

Anyways, the chances of him scoring a goal that clutch are slim to none. More likely he rings iron, or thumps it right into the center of the crest.
- Ogilthorpe2

The memories of game 7 OT vs the Nucks.

Oglethorpe-we get it. You don't like Sharp. Your reasoning seems very questionable bc although Sharp may have struggled to finish during the 2014 calendar year, he still has great wheels and is one of the few Hawks that puts the puck on net. He creates chances and was a GD Canadian Olympian. If the hawks can't get a high end prospect or 1st round pick then you keep him until you HAVE to move him for the 2015 cap dump. Your vendetta against Sharp is annoying and not logical from a hockey standpoint. Move on. He's an alternate captain and a damn good hockey player and he shouldn't be moved unless there are no other options to get under the cap in 2015
- EnzoD

Yes sir, right away sir!

LTIR solves the cap issue too right?
- stljam

It does for this season.

Oglethorpe-we get it. You don't like Sharp. Your reasoning seems very questionable bc although Sharp may have struggled to finish during the 2014 calendar year, he still has great wheels and is one of the few Hawks that puts the puck on net. He creates chances and was a GD Canadian Olympian. If the hawks can't get a high end prospect or 1st round pick then you keep him until you HAVE to move him for the 2015 cap dump. Your vendetta against Sharp is annoying and not logical from a hockey standpoint. Move on. He's an alternate captain and a damn good hockey player and he shouldn't be moved unless there are no other options to get under the cap in 2015
- EnzoD

He was having an excellent year - UNTIL he became a Canadian Olympian.

22 goals before January 1 (41 games) - 12 goals after, only 5 in 19 tournament games.

And some rough play - bad penalties, not getting back on defense....

Ogi's attitude is not totally paranoid - there are reasons apparent....

Would waiving Rosi and Versteeg be enough to get under the cap?
- Jeropotato

Send the to the minors, or Euro on loan.

Send the to the minors, or Euro on loan.
- wiz1901

Only saves $900,000 each.

He was having an excellent year - UNTIL he became a Canadian Olympian.

22 goals before January 1 (41 games) - 12 goals after, only 5 in 19 tournament games.

And some rough play - bad penalties, not getting back on defense....

Ogi's attitude is not totally paranoid - there are reasons apparent....
- StLBravesFan

Do you think all the off-ice issues started after the Olympics? Something has to explain to the huge drop off in play.

The way things were going I thought he was gonna hit 80 points easy. Still pretty (frank)ing close for being Casper the rest of the season.

I am gonna chime here in this latest Sharp talk mostly because I don't know what the team is thinking, but do see all these sides to the complex matter of winning.

I will say that as soon as teams feel that the developing players are on their was as scorrers and the farm seems to have ready replacements who also may eventually be consistent scorers teams do look for trading partners. But usually not while they feel their intact lineup is really close.
So, first question, do all of you feel this team is close?

I also understand the difference between a team leading scorer and a dominant playoff performer.
A week ago the NHL Channel on there throwback day featured the Hawks-Minnesota series and when I re-watch stuff I also get new opinions or stick to my guns on the ones that I had, about "what I thought happened."

After watching, I thought Sharp made space and had some really good chances that just didn't hit the back of the net. I also thought he worked the wall and engaged as well as anyone. There was no dogging, hesitation or lack of intensity...the goals didn't go in.

So i am gonna go with there was really no large difference in the season and playoff performances in terms of the play,but in production yes there was.

Three years ago I was yapping that his contract might be the easiest one to send off to get cap room way back then, but that was about reality and the ability to get good equal value from another club.
Finding a trade partner who not only is gonna give you futures and some now player gets complicated,
since so franking many of these other teams are loaded with lesser players with contracts the the teams mistakenly overpaid on, so does it aid the hawks Cap relief when they end up with a return player who is clearly NOT a bigtime sniper and either is also cominig up for contract but in the middle of a contract deal that is far too expensive for what the player really is?

I have been watching the last years of trade deadline dealines that include all these prospects and "promising younger pros" and I can honestly say in each deal, I always never thought "WOW, they did drop that good scorer/pro for a nice good kid who is gonna be something!"
(Well in the Kesler deal I thought the that Nick Bonino was a real upside young pro and a nice return ((not ever a top NHLrs though)) but in most cases these youngsters are NEVER the top organizational guys getting sacrificed for a true scorer "now" guy.)


and then we get back to the LA King loss and can we all agree it was depth that made the difference, and that a subtraction of a scoring threat like Sharp NOW would lessen a run?

Especially if there is isn't a clear scoring boost from inside the organization right now?

So there is a frame work to decide your opinions on this.

As far as answering the rooks question on return, I think we just don't know what return is out there...would a team destined to not be in the playoff give up their lottery balls and that first pick for the hawks so they could possibly win McDavid or Eichel?...would Sharp accept a trade there?...

I think that GM might get himself fired if that happens....

Hmm...how is hockeystreams not in violation of some sort of broadcast law/agreement (something to that effect) with the NHL? I moved from Chicago to Pittsburgh in 2012 and have had the NHL Center Ice package, and quite frankly, it sucks considering the Hawks' games are blacked out here a good portion of the time anyway.
- FrancieBrady

Not sure. One thing I know for certain is they are located in Europe. The other thing is they operate on a "donation" system.

You would have been right at home in this thread.

Clarkson would be my pick. As terrible as Versteeg looked for much of the season, he still was pretty close to his average point totals.

Clarkson was beyond terrible last season. He is a better player than he showed last year. JMO. He has more room for a jump in points.
- Elbows15

Agreed.

Sharp gets injured...this team takes a big step back. Guess you aren't rooting for the Blackhawks to win.

Sharp gets traded...I don't see how the Blackhawks can be a better team this year.

He is prone to a stupid retaliation penalty time to time but the Blackhawks aren't going to replace his production in any easy way. I've seen people bring up Morin...and that is laughable. 30+ goal scorers don't grow on trees...I am pretty positive of that.
- HawkFan27

Depends what you get back.