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FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Aug 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
Lou felt the median age wasn't old enough with Merrill, Gelinas, and Larsson all possibly playing. With Matteau on the horizon as well, Lou knew in his infinite wisdom that we needed to sign some poopty old slow pylons to bring that median age back up.

Kaberle to replace one of the young defenders, and Gomez to make sure Matteau rots in Albany.

Brilliant.

The genius of Lou never ceases to amaze me.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Aug 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
I read somewhere that Cammi will get to wear #13, do any of you know if this is true?
- TRDevil


doubt it. He'll probably get something stupid like 31
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Aug 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
How much is Gelinas really gonna hold out for? He's got 7G 22A in 61 games.

Big whoopty doo.

Just give him a fair deal, quit being a rotten old senile (frank) & move on.

Or pull another Parise and wait until the 11th hour thinking you're the poop, who cares.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
I read somewhere that Cammi will get to wear #13, do any of you know if this is true?
- TRDevil

Don't think it is true
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
How much is Gelinas really gonna hold out for? He's got 7G 22A in 61 games.

Big whoopty doo.

Just give him a fair deal, quit being a rotten old senile (frank) & move on.

Or pull another Parise and wait until the 11th hour thinking you're the poop, who cares.

- FLdevilsFAN


I'm glad we have someone like you, who's been a GM before, to tell us how it all works.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Aug 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
Because I'm bored and can't focus wth let's say they somehow make the team (won't happen or at least better not)

Cammi Zajac jagr
Henrique elias Havlat
Ruutu gomez Clowe
Ryder zubrus brunner

Greene Zidlicky
Merrill kaberle
Harrold Sal


Heck they might even put gomez with elias and Havlat and Henrique on the 3rd line at this rate

- dmarsden2988



If Henrique is on the third line again this year im going to kill PDB. Guys such a (frank)ing idiot with that poop. henrique score 9goals in 11 games playing with Elias lets split em up!
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
Lou felt the median age wasn't old enough with Merrill, Gelinas, and Larsson all possibly playing. With Matteau on the horizon as well, Lou knew in his infinite wisdom that we needed to sign some poopty old slow pylons to bring that median age back up.

Kaberle to replace one of the young defenders, and Gomez to make sure Matteau rots in Albany.

Brilliant.

The genius of Lou never ceases to amaze me.

- FLdevilsFAN


The three defenders should be in, but injuries do occur and if Kab does well enough then he should be given a chance. Salvador will be probably be as bad as he was last year, so why not? And I don't see Zid having the same year he had last year. As for Matteau, putting him on the fourth line won't do him any good and he'll be like JJ in 2-3 years. Let him have a top six role in Albany and get better. IMO Gomez is a better option as the third line center than either Zubrus or Ruutu. And if he was put on the second line with Elias and Henrique on the third, that gives us three lines with 2/3rds chemistry, Zajac/Jagr, Gomez/Elias, Clowe/Henrique. I would prefer to have Henrique on the second line, but PDB will look for chemistry and shuffle lines anyway, like he has the past two years.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:07 PM ET
Lou felt the median age wasn't old enough with Merrill, Gelinas, and Larsson all possibly playing. With Matteau on the horizon as well, Lou knew in his infinite wisdom that we needed to sign some poopty old slow pylons to bring that median age back up.

Kaberle to replace one of the young defenders, and Gomez to make sure Matteau rots in Albany.

Brilliant.

The genius of Lou never ceases to amaze me.

- FLdevilsFAN


I don't think you understand what a try-out is.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
The sad thing is if we are slightly on the outside looking in at the trade deadline we aren't going to move the Ryder's brunners jagrs exit but we will add more of the rutuu zubrus types in a latch ditch effort to (frank) up a good pick and rid ourselves of more youth for old past their prime players.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
The sad thing is if we are slightly on the outside looking in at the trade deadline we aren't going to move the Ryder's brunners jagrs exit but we will add more of the rutuu zubrus types in a latch ditch effort to (frank) up a good pick and rid ourselves of more youth for old past their prime players.
- blizzzard


To be honest I would rather have Ruutu than Lokti. We have all been saying that Lou needs to trade a forward and if Gomez does make the team then I think he will trade 1 or 2, those being Ryder, Brunner IMO. Neither brings much to the table outside of the top 6 and we need guys who are better defensively and do more than one thing, Ryder, score, Brunner, speed.
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Aug 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
Try out?

We've all been fans long enough, lets be honest.

They're both getting 2-3 yr deals.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:20 PM ET
Try out?

We've all been fans long enough, lets be honest.

They're both getting 2-3 yr deals.

- FLdevilsFAN


They have no leverage of getting a longer deal. Gomez said on NHL.com that he had offers, but they were outside of the game as communications or coaching or something. Brunner did last year because other teams wanted him.
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Aug 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
I'm glad we have someone like you, who's been a GM before, to tell us how it all works.
- TheJerseyDevil1

So you approve of how he handles his FAs?
I think it's mediocre at best.
The "loyalty" to old slow poopty players but turning the other cheek on his actual stars because they haven't proved their loyalty to senile old Lou is hardly a tactic worth celebrating.
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Aug 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
They don't need leverage.
Lou will sign them for 2-3 yr deals because that's a very Lou move.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
They don't need leverage.
Lou will sign them for 2-3 yr deals because that's a very Lou move.

- FLdevilsFAN

Both one year one way deals
njdevils350
Joined: 06.21.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:33 PM ET
Good move. Competition is a good thing. Top to bottom. Interestingly, it gives the team the opportunity to completely revamp the 4th line rather than sticking in Josefson or Brunner with linemates they don't belong with.

In simpler terms.

Josefson-Gomez-Brunner

and

Carter-Gionta-Bernier

Are two to totally different fourth lines and none of the players are interchangable whatsoever.

One line forechecks.

The other line is skill players to do not belong in the top 9 in any reasonable evaluation. However, they could have some success getting a few minutes a night against another teams less skilled 4th liners.

Interesting.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:40 PM ET
So you approve of how he handles his FAs?
I think it's mediocre at best.
The "loyalty" to old slow poopty players but turning the other cheek on his actual stars because they haven't proved their loyalty to senile old Lou is hardly a tactic worth celebrating.

- FLdevilsFAN


Who? Gelinas? The old guys we have in Elias and Jagr are our stars besides Henrique.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:40 PM ET
So you approve of how he handles his FAs?
I think it's mediocre at best.
The "loyalty" to old slow poopty players but turning the other cheek on his actual stars because they haven't proved their loyalty to senile old Lou is hardly a tactic worth celebrating.

- FLdevilsFAN


If it wasn't for this senile old man (who won you three cups and brought you to five cup finals on a limited budget), there wouldn't be a team in NJ right now.

He's allowed to (frank) up occasionally. When you have that resume, then you're allowed say otherwise.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
To be honest I would rather have Ruutu than Lokti. We have all been saying that Lou needs to trade a forward and if Gomez does make the team then I think he will trade 1 or 2, those being Ryder, Brunner IMO. Neither brings much to the table outside of the top 6 and we need guys who are better defensively and do more than one thing, Ryder, score, Brunner, speed.
- Devils9503

The point is we didn't miss the playoffs because our bottom six wasn't up to par the only thing we need to do is revamp the top six is that easier said that done absolutely but you don't need to offer every piece of crap player a try and or contract to fight for bottom six position and as for Matteau he is a big body kid who likely only has third line potential so I have 0 problem with him being on the third or fourth line it's a guy like Boucher who either needs to be in the top six or the ahl as he doesn't have the build or play the type of game that's required to play in the bottom six
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
All of this is a big no
- shvingter88

Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:44 PM ET
If it wasn't for this senile old man (who won you three cups and brought you to five cup finals on a limited budget), there wouldn't be a team in NJ right now.

He's allowed to (frank) up occasionally. When you have that resume, then you're allowed say otherwise.

- TheJerseyDevil1


I wouldn't even say he's f'n up. He did the same thing with Sykora three years ago and look how that turned out. He was 35. Plus, he is doing what every other team is gonna do this just got out early.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:44 PM ET
Lol and wow. We just can't learn to step away from mediocrity, can we?

Gomez is the bigger laugh, but kaberle isn't far behind as a desperation move. Nobody's about to use NJ as a template for success anytime soon. When will we get on the ball and make a move a fan can be proud of? What a punch in the gut

- jackzack87

Are you out of your facking mind? One of the more competitive teams in the NHL for the last 20 years. Maybe use the Sabres as said template?
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
I wouldn't even say he's f'n up. He did the same thing with Sykora three years ago and look how that turned out. He was 35. Plus, he is doing what every other team is gonna do this just got out early.
- Devils9503


I was referring to some of the obvious missteps like Parise falling through and the Clowe contract that I don't like. I assume that's why that guy hates Lou.

He hasn't been perfect, but you have to take risks in this business, and not all of them will work out. His long-term success has always outweighed his mistakes over the last 20 years.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:51 PM ET
The point is we didn't miss the playoffs because our bottom six wasn't up to par the only thing we need to do is revamp the top six is that easier said that done absolutely but you don't need to offer every piece of crap player a try and or contract to fight for bottom six position and as for Matteau he is a big body kid who likely only has third line potential so I have 0 problem with him being on the third or fourth line it's a guy like Boucher who either needs to be in the top six or the ahl as he doesn't have the build or play the type of game that's required to play in the bottom six
- blizzzard


The top 6 is already better than last year with the additions of Havlat and Cam. And if Gomez is signed than we have the option of have a good top nine. It just makes our top nine better which is a good thing. Don't forget Gomez was playing on the 4th line in Florida and SJ. He had as much production as Bernier or Gionta did being on the 4th line. And if Ruutu/Zubrus/Ryder/Brunner are on the third fourth line their production is gonna go down. As for Matteau, I don't see him being more than a third line guy too, but that's how I looked at JJ and look at him. He had 1 year as a professional and everybody wants him to play in the NHL, let him develop.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Aug 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
I was referring to some of the obvious missteps like Parise falling through and the Clowe contract that I don't like. I assume that's why that guy hates Lou.

He hasn't been perfect, but you have to take risks in this business, and not all of them will work out. His long-term success has always outweighed his mistakes over the last 20 years.

- TheJerseyDevil1


If Parise was demanding what he got, than I would of traded him, a 15 mil signing bonus! As for Clowe, yes he is overpaid, but he a guy we need and 26 points in 43 games isn't bad, that's a point or more every other game. If he can stay healthy he'll get 40-50 points per year.
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